RE: Meet the 200mph Ford Mustang Shelby GT500

[300bhp/ton]

Schermerhorn said:

I just can't warm to these cars for some reason.

Part of me loves the hooligan part of it but the other part doesn't like the rest of it.

It's only my opinion. But I think a good mind set to approach cars like this is:

-expect classic cars thrills and driving sensations.
-but while somehow offering modern comfort but without the detachment.
-but with a car that you could use daily and cost no more to maintain than an average Ford Focus.

[bigdog3]

fwaggie said:

bigdog3 said:

Fantastic machine but really that old adage still applies: Only in America. Dreaming was nice but now it's back to the 1600 diesel

You don't really understand percentages do you?

If the oil companies charged 10p per litre, the tax + vat would be 15p for a total of 25ppl. Without the government changing a thing.

The government use a percentage, the oil companies set the price and hence set the amount of that price the government gets.

You might be missing the point

With petrol costing £6.05 per gallon ($9.59), fuel economy worse than 50 mpg is simply unaffordable unless the car is a plaything and does no miles. Even fuel costs of a 1600 diesel are crippling.

Most unfortunately, the days of wonderful V8 power are over at least in the UK

nb Fuel duty is independent of oil price, but of course VAT isn't (just clarification in case you were confused)

[chrisjl]

fwaggie said:

bigdog3 said:

Fantastic machine but really that old adage still applies: Only in America. Dreaming was nice but now it's back to the 1600 diesel

You don't really understand percentages do you?

If the oil companies charged 10p per litre, the tax + vat would be 15p for a total of 25ppl. Without the government changing a thing.

The government use a percentage, the oil companies set the price and hence set the amount of that price the government gets.

According to this, fuel duty is a fixed amount per litre, not a percentage. Therefore your example becomes:

Adjusted example said:

If the oil companies charged 10p per litre, the tax + vat would be 71.6p for a total of 81.6ppl ( (10p + 58p) + 20% ).

The numbers (values and percentages) in the screenshot seem consistent to me. I'm not sure what you're disagreeing with. Where do you think the misundertanding is?

[Verde]

Just not a fan. Excellent fundamental engine design but then add a big supercharger with it's commensurate challenge of generating heat-soak, a solid rear axle, weight of nearly two tons and loads of weight over the front axle. Who is this car for?

[FisiP1]

Yes Please!

[MonteV]

adz13091982 said:

Wow - this will have the eco warriors in a spin!

The last gasp of the great internal combustion engine? The eco warriors will get us driving electric in no time. I remember being a kid dreaming of having 500 hp under the hood, just because it seemed so outrageous. This was the early seventies when Mustang V8s had 143 hp...

[jbi]

Verde said:

Just not a fan. Excellent fundamental engine design but then add a big supercharger with it's commensurate challenge of generating heat-soak, a solid rear axle, weight of nearly two tons and loads of weight over the front axle. Who is this car for?

73,716 Americans in 2010... not including sales abroad which is down from the peak of 166,530 in 2006

Basically, ford sells as many mustangs in the USA as it sells focus's in the UK

Edited by jbi on Tuesday 15th November 18:40

[Zad]

I'm just going to put this here

http://www.fordracingparts.com/2011-catalog/Ford%2...

Page 155:
"2011 MUSTANG SVT 750 HP SUPERCHARGER UPGRADE KITS
On 2011 Mustang SVT, produces 750 hp @ 6100 rpm and 719 lb-ft @ 4200 rpm @ 17psi boost on 93 octane fuel"

Edited by Zad on Tuesday 15th November 18:56

[corcoran]

Is that a lady driving? Shocking.

[300bhp/ton]

Zad said:

I'm just going to put this here

http://www.fordracingparts.com/2011-catalog/Ford%2...

Page 155:
"2011 MUSTANG SVT 750 HP SUPERCHARGER UPGRADE KITS
On 2011 Mustang SVT, produces 750 hp @ 6100 rpm and 719 lb-ft @ 4200 rpm @ 17psi boost on 93 octane fuel"

Edited by Zad on Tuesday 15th November 18:56

That's exactly the kind of thing most Brits on here don't seem able to grasp. Modding cars in the US is normal.

[Fire99]

Zad said:

I'm just going to put this here

http://www.fordracingparts.com/2011-catalog/Ford%2...

Page 155:
"2011 MUSTANG SVT 750 HP SUPERCHARGER UPGRADE KITS
On 2011 Mustang SVT, produces 750 hp @ 6100 rpm and 719 lb-ft @ 4200 rpm @ 17psi boost on 93 octane fuel"

Wonderful!!

[LuS1fer]

Verde said:

Just not a fan. Excellent fundamental engine design but then add a big supercharger with it's commensurate challenge of generating heat-soak, a solid rear axle, weight of nearly two tons and loads of weight over the front axle. Who is this car for?

People who want to p*ss all over an M3 for substantially less money.

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/1010_20...

[ZeeTacoe]

LuS1fer said:

Verde said:

Just not a fan. Excellent fundamental engine design but then add a big supercharger with it's commensurate challenge of generating heat-soak, a solid rear axle, weight of nearly two tons and loads of weight over the front axle. Who is this car for?

People who want to p*ss all over an M3 for substantially less money.

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/1010_20...

Even if the gt500 weighs another 200 kg over the GT it'll still only be an 1800 kilo car.

[bigdog3]

300bhp/ton said:

hat's exactly the kind of thing most Brits on here don't seem able to grasp. Modding cars in the US is normal.

SEMA Show

http://www.sema.org/

http://www.semashow.com/the-sema-show

[anonymous-user]

Polarbert said:

I want one of these SO badly.

I want one MORE!

Absolutely love it!

[Langweilig]

YES! YES! YES! WANT! Nice to see they've styled the tail lights in the distinctive Mustang style.

[ANF11]

MrTappets said:

What does 'production' mean here? Mass production? Presumably that's why you can't count suff like Koenigsegg's V8.

Production should mean any production road car, which Koenigsegg's are. So ford are telling porkies!!

[BelfastBoy]

Stig said:

That's also a fair point. The point I was making was that race results are quantifiable, rather than being opinion based.

Without getting into the usual 'live axle' debate, I can tell you that the Mustang 'can' do corners as well as being a striaght line hero. Granted, it's never going to be an Elise at it, but for such a big car it makes a good account for itself

I should've said also that your original point about the Mustang racers was also very valid, forgot to add that. By the way, I think I'd end up crashing a Viper, Mustang, Corvette or F40 - not the car's fault, more my own limitations as a driver! (Btw, another American car that handles - Ford GT.)

[Lagerlout]

Ok I'm caving. Where do you buy one of these?! Is it self import or ?

[Killer2005]

How much do kidneys go for these days?