The misunderstanding of the cost of modern cars

The misunderstanding of the cost of modern cars

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g7jhp

6,971 posts

240 months

Sunday 12th February 2012
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[quote=Jonty3idea55]£40k scratchchin


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And before anyone mentions running costs, consider the fact that the Ferrari has finished depreciating, where as the Golf in a few years will be worth about 20p!
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Spot on.

Buy a 'future classic' which had good reviews when new when it's 8-10 years old as it will have done most of it's depreciation. Low depreciation leaves you free to spend your money on running it and it'll still be worth something when you come to sell.




Baryonyx

18,028 posts

161 months

Sunday 12th February 2012
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This regularly comes up at work, colleagues saying they want to be a much more expensive car because it returns better MPG and is cheaper to tax. When in fact, my car that does 23mpg round the doors is really much cheaper to run, because the buy in cost is low! It's also much more fun that than a 1.0L diesel euro box too, though I doubt they buy cars for the fun and pleasure they provide.

PumpkinSteve

4,108 posts

158 months

Sunday 12th February 2012
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I know a tool who has never bought a new car in his life and somehow thinks they are dirt cheap. I bought a new Yaris years ago which cost nigh on £11k, so this lad says "oh, they're about £6k new aren't they?" followed by "£11k for a Yaris?!?!" rolleyes An Aygo starts at £8.5k FFS.

LuS1fer

41,171 posts

247 months

Sunday 12th February 2012
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I may have mentioned this but only 3 years ago, i bought a brand new mondeo 2.0 Edge from a local Ford dealer for £12k. That's not expensive and simply begs the question why other cars are.

Dave Hedgehog

14,592 posts

206 months

Sunday 12th February 2012
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Jonty355 said:
£40k scratchchin


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And before anyone mentions running costs, consider the fact that the Ferrari has finished depreciating, where as the Golf in a few years will be worth about 20p!
put 60k miles on them over 5k years and see what the running costs are like

try going to asda with your family in the fezza and pickup a weekly shop, or try spending 3 hours a day in stop start traffic in it

and what about if you dont have a garage to keep a car in, the fezza's going to be in great condition after 5 years on the road


still it would be nice to have one to bring out at the weekend so that you can polish it to impress your neighbours

Jonty355

4,423 posts

215 months

Sunday 12th February 2012
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Dave Hedgehog said:
Jonty355 said:
£40k scratchchin


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And before anyone mentions running costs, consider the fact that the Ferrari has finished depreciating, where as the Golf in a few years will be worth about 20p!
put 60k miles on them over 5k years and see what the running costs are like

try going to asda with your family in the fezza and pickup a weekly shop, or try spending 3 hours a day in stop start traffic in it

and what about if you dont have a garage to keep a car in, the fezza's going to be in great condition after 5 years on the road


still it would be nice to have one to bring out at the weekend so that you can polish it to impress your neighbours
But if you dont do quite that much milage and you do have a garage....... biggrin

I've taken the Fezza to the supermarket plenty of times. The boot is actually on par with the wifes Mini.

Dave Hedgehog

14,592 posts

206 months

Sunday 12th February 2012
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Jonty355 said:
Dave Hedgehog said:
Jonty355 said:
£40k scratchchin


Or




And before anyone mentions running costs, consider the fact that the Ferrari has finished depreciating, where as the Golf in a few years will be worth about 20p!
put 60k miles on them over 5k years and see what the running costs are like

try going to asda with your family in the fezza and pickup a weekly shop, or try spending 3 hours a day in stop start traffic in it

and what about if you dont have a garage to keep a car in, the fezza's going to be in great condition after 5 years on the road


still it would be nice to have one to bring out at the weekend so that you can polish it to impress your neighbours
But if you dont do quite that much milage and you do have a garage....... biggrin

I've taken the Fezza to the supermarket plenty of times. The boot is actually on par with the wifes Mini.
we fill 6 of the large bags for life every week, could be a interesting 4 up in a fezza biggrin

kambites

67,695 posts

223 months

Sunday 12th February 2012
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Dave Hedgehog said:
we fill 6 of the large bags for life every week, could be a interesting 4 up in a fezza biggrin
Because it would be such a hardship to have to make three trips in the Ferrari? drivinghehe

otolith

56,581 posts

206 months

Sunday 12th February 2012
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Jesus, I thought Ocado delivered everywhere now?

Deva Link

26,934 posts

247 months

Sunday 12th February 2012
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Jonty355 said:
But if you dont do quite that much milage and you do have a garage....... biggrin
That's fine, but people don't (usually) buy Golfs to keep in the garage and only use now and again, so you're not comparing like with like.

Here's a post on running costs of a Ferrari 355: http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

OK, it would be less that £7.30 per mile if the mileage was higher, but the total cost would be even higher!

Dave Hedgehog

14,592 posts

206 months

Sunday 12th February 2012
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otolith said:
Jesus, I thought Ocado delivered everywhere now?
i aint paying £5 for delivery!

dhariwab

621 posts

153 months

Sunday 12th February 2012
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Read in the financial times I think that the high price of cars is being caused by rising raw material costs steel e.t.c.

RenesisEvo

3,622 posts

221 months

Sunday 12th February 2012
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Dave Hedgehog said:
i aint paying £5 for delivery!
How much does it cost to get there and back in the car?

Dave Hedgehog

14,592 posts

206 months

Sunday 12th February 2012
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RenesisEvo said:
Dave Hedgehog said:
i aint paying £5 for delivery!
How much does it cost to get there and back in the car?
suschhh


thinfourth2

32,414 posts

206 months

Sunday 12th February 2012
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Jonty355 said:
£40k scratchchin


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And before anyone mentions running costs, consider the fact that the Ferrari has finished depreciating, where as the Golf in a few years will be worth about 20p!
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Both brand new and both with a warranty

And neither in resale grey and change from your 40Grand


AdeTuono

7,276 posts

229 months

Sunday 12th February 2012
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PumpkinSteve said:
I know a tool who has never bought a new car in his life and somehow thinks they are dirt cheap. I bought a new Yaris years ago which cost nigh on £11k, so this lad says "oh, they're about £6k new aren't they?" followed by "£11k for a Yaris?!?!" rolleyes An Aygo starts at £8.5k FFS.
He may be confusing 'cost' with 'worth'.

Vladimir

6,917 posts

160 months

Sunday 12th February 2012
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The inlaws ran a 355 from new for a year. The costs were astronomical.

I'd GENUINELY rather have the Golf.

If I want a Ferrari, I'll buy a newer one - either 430 or 458. Except they are rather pricey.

I'm always bemused by this "YOU SPENT £40k on a [insert name of new car] when you could have bought an Aston/Ferrari/whatever? ARE YOU MAD?" No actually, some people want a new car.

We've just spent a fairly eye watering (for us) amount on a camper van. Yes we COULD have bought a 911/355/fast luxobarge but we don't WANT one, we wouldn't all fit in it and wanted a new one. That way you don't make your bed on your used van and find a few pubes on the mattress that the dealer missed on his clean up... Not the same with a "normal" car but you get the idea.


Welshbeef

49,633 posts

200 months

Sunday 12th February 2012
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This is mainly die to the fact the Euro used to be 1.45:£1 now it's 1.15:£1.
So anything produced totally outside the UK should go up by that amount.
Even building them in this country you need raw materials which are imported.

On top of these reasons cars have been under priced for a long time now it's catchup time.
There are fewer car manufacturers so less competition

Not great but there you go.
Might start to make people keep cars for longer

Globs

13,841 posts

233 months

Sunday 12th February 2012
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Vladimir said:
We've just spent a fairly eye watering (for us) amount on a camper van. Yes we COULD have bought a 911/355/fast luxobarge but
Could've stayed in a hotel for rather less - that's what I do wink

KardioKate

1,584 posts

156 months

Sunday 12th February 2012
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We had a Rover 800 a few years ago. Original sales receipt was for £31k, it was registered in 1992. I don't imagine a current Ford Mondeo is any less roomy inside these days, nor that the Fords build quality is any worse (probably a lot better...), and toys wise the Ford will be leagues ahead.

What does an averagely specced Mondeo cost these days?