RE: Chris Harris video: McLaren 12C Spider

RE: Chris Harris video: McLaren 12C Spider

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Ecurie Ecosse

4,812 posts

220 months

Thursday 25th October 2012
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I think McLaren's image at the moment is good, as it is untainted by bling and footballers etc, as they are still associated with the F1 only. I don't really consider the SKR to be a McLaren.

However, this will probably change the more cars that get sold.

A Scotsman

1,000 posts

201 months

Thursday 25th October 2012
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Spider is the Monaco hairdresser's version. Serious drivers will always want a roof.

garypotter

1,561 posts

152 months

Thursday 25th October 2012
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NGK210 said:
HighwayStar said:
StuH said:
Wills2 said:
E38Ross said:
CraigyMc said:
StottyZr said:
elementad said:
If I had that sort of cash though (even though this might be more hard core) I'd take the 458 Italia.
I'll keep dreaming sleep
Thats the issue. I think most would. I've heard a few people say "Oh I'd love a 458Italia" never heard "Oh I'd love a MP4-12C"...
You've never been standing by me, then.

I'd rather have a 12c.
Nor me, I love the 12C!
I'd have a 12C as well, there you go Ron you can sleep easy now! biggrin
+1 Another i'd love a 12c here
+1 Another one here... 12c for me
And I love the 12C!

Especially in met' black, with silver wheels, red calipers; black cabin, red stitching, Alcantara option and - because every tcensoredt with a Corsa etc and a roll of real carbonfibre wrap has devalued the 'black weave' - I'll have ally trim cloud9
+1 getting boring now but me too a spyder version please, I would not want a 458 as I do not want to be seen as a builder sorry property developer or a night club owenr..........

Garralda

6 posts

172 months

Thursday 25th October 2012
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Some days ago, I was actually driving down the road from Ronda to San Pedro de Alcántara, when I was passed by two McLaren 12C Spider, one in yellow and one in orange. Now I know who was driving one of them! The cars sounded better than I expected, although I would still have a 458 Spider over a 12C. By the way, the road from Ronda to San Pedro de Alcántara is by far my favorite of all the roads around here, but for those of you who enjoy playing with your 'toys' in this road, beaware of the Guardia Civil! I have been stopped several times with my R1 ZCars Mini, as well as with my bike powered MK Indy.

MoBeanz

135 posts

172 months

Thursday 25th October 2012
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garypotter said:
NGK210 said:
HighwayStar said:
StuH said:
Wills2 said:
E38Ross said:
CraigyMc said:
StottyZr said:
elementad said:
If I had that sort of cash though (even though this might be more hard core) I'd take the 458 Italia.
I'll keep dreaming sleep
Thats the issue. I think most would. I've heard a few people say "Oh I'd love a 458Italia" never heard "Oh I'd love a MP4-12C"...
You've never been standing by me, then.

I'd rather have a 12c.
Nor me, I love the 12C!
I'd have a 12C as well, there you go Ron you can sleep easy now! biggrin
+1 Another i'd love a 12c here
+1 Another one here... 12c for me
And I love the 12C!

Especially in met' black, with silver wheels, red calipers; black cabin, red stitching, Alcantara option and - because every tcensoredt with a Corsa etc and a roll of real carbonfibre wrap has devalued the 'black weave' - I'll have ally trim cloud9
+1 getting boring now but me too a spyder version please, I would not want a 458 as I do not want to be seen as a builder sorry property developer or a night club owenr..........
+1

sisu

2,642 posts

175 months

Thursday 25th October 2012
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Amizade said:
sisu said:
Chris I like your videos, but as the others have said you need to improve the audio aspect of your videos. While I am sure there are guys who know alot more about this than I do I think you need to invest in a 'dead cat' to reduce wind noise. I know you guys don't want to stretch to a spotty teenager holding a mic...

So as an idea for the future maybe you should go to EA or Polyphony Digital who did the GrandTurismo games on Playstation or another similar game company. There are some tricks that they use that could help you translate what you experience effectivly to the chumps at home.
Would be easier just to have a chat with Nigel - see below

http://www.richmondfilmservices.co.uk/contact-us.h...
Could do. What ever is gonna work for Monkey, I just thought the EA Sports stuff would be more relevant as they have this very specific type of audiophilia in all sorts of cars and making it work.

MoBeanz

135 posts

172 months

Thursday 25th October 2012
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FAKE!

Nice post production effects Mr Harris... if that is your real name. The home movie edit didn’t fool me. Tiff and Jason have already proven that you can’t drift a 12C.

Davey S2

13,098 posts

256 months

Thursday 25th October 2012
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A Scotsman said:
Spider is the Monaco hairdresser's version. Serious drivers will always want a roof.
That may have been true with traditional convertibles but not with cars like this of the 458 IMO.

Carbon tub means no chassis flex and the hard folding roof makes it as secure and cossetting as the regular car.

The performance between the two you would need a stopwatch to tell the difference and certainly won't notice the difference on the road.

I especially love the feature on this and the 458 that allows the glass back window to be dropped even when the roof is in place.

Easy to see why 80%+ sold will be spiders as its effectively 2 cars in one.





RemarkLima

2,448 posts

214 months

Thursday 25th October 2012
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A Scotsman said:
Spider is the Monaco hairdresser's version. Serious drivers will always want a roof.
That's right, just like the F1 drivers... And the Le Mans P2's... And Radicals... And Caterhams... All hair dressers!

marctwo

3,666 posts

262 months

Thursday 25th October 2012
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Chris Harris said:
Convertibles are for sissies.
I take it he's never driven a TVR then?

andyps

7,817 posts

284 months

Thursday 25th October 2012
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A Scotsman said:
Spider is the Monaco hairdresser's version. Serious drivers will always want a roof.
I don't get the point about serious drivers wanting a roof. Sure, you may get more rigidity (but as already pointed out, and said in the video, there is no change with the 12C) but you are also detached from the surroundings more. An open car connects the driver in so many additional ways. If you lose a few percent at the limit, which is probably way above what is safe on almost any road, does that really matter for the other sensations you gain? Not in my opinion.

andyps

7,817 posts

284 months

Thursday 25th October 2012
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marctwo said:
Chris Harris said:
Convertibles are for sissies.
I take it he's never driven a TVR then?
I would say a roof is for sissies - helps keep your hair dry and neatly arranged. Does that make a closed car the hairdressers version, they wouldn't like the mess an open car can create!

kambites

67,746 posts

223 months

Thursday 25th October 2012
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yes For me, amongst car enthusiasts at least, the coupe is the posers' version because many people seem to think other people will look at them and say "ooh he's driving a coupe, he must be a 'proper' driving enthusiast".

Many cabriolets are significantly less stiff and/or heavier than their coupe counterparts, but equally many are not.

Boydie88

3,283 posts

151 months

Thursday 25th October 2012
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Another thread that's descended into 458 vs mp4?

There needs to be a poll... MP4 Coupe vs MP4 Spider vs 458 vs 458 Spider (vs MX5).

Rules being, money is no issue, you can only have one. Assumption being you don't already have one.

Davey S2

13,098 posts

256 months

Thursday 25th October 2012
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Boydie88 said:
Another thread that's descended into 458 vs mp4?
What did you expect when they are so similar in every way?

vescaegg

25,849 posts

169 months

Thursday 25th October 2012
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Dave Hedgehog said:
Great vid

Still prefer the R8 smile
Eh?!

U mean a 458?

StottyZr

6,860 posts

165 months

Thursday 25th October 2012
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MoBeanz said:
garypotter said:
NGK210 said:
HighwayStar said:
StuH said:
Wills2 said:
E38Ross said:
CraigyMc said:
StottyZr said:
elementad said:
If I had that sort of cash though (even though this might be more hard core) I'd take the 458 Italia.
I'll keep dreaming sleep
Thats the issue. I think most would. I've heard a few people say "Oh I'd love a 458Italia" never heard "Oh I'd love a MP4-12C"...
You've never been standing by me, then.

I'd rather have a 12c.
Nor me, I love the 12C!
I'd have a 12C as well, there you go Ron you can sleep easy now! biggrin
+1 Another i'd love a 12c here
+1 Another one here... 12c for me
And I love the 12C!

Especially in met' black, with silver wheels, red calipers; black cabin, red stitching, Alcantara option and - because every tcensoredt with a Corsa etc and a roll of real carbonfibre wrap has devalued the 'black weave' - I'll have ally trim cloud9
+1 getting boring now but me too a spyder version please, I would not want a 458 as I do not want to be seen as a builder sorry property developer or a night club owenr..........
+1
hehe

I stand corrected!

Boydie88

3,283 posts

151 months

Thursday 25th October 2012
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Davey S2 said:
Boydie88 said:
Another thread that's descended into 458 vs mp4?
What did you expect when they are so similar in every way?
It's been done to death... and then done over and over again.

We need a 'One poll to settle the battle of battles' thread.

MoBeanz

135 posts

172 months

Thursday 25th October 2012
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Davey S2 said:
A Scotsman said:
Spider is the Monaco hairdresser's version. Serious drivers will always want a roof.
That may have been true with traditional convertibles but not with cars like this of the 458 IMO.

Carbon tub means no chassis flex...
The 458 doesn’t have a carbon chassis. It's an aluminium frame and so cutting the roof off is a problem.

Caractacus

2,604 posts

227 months

Thursday 25th October 2012
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CraigyMc said:
StottyZr said:
elementad said:
If I had that sort of cash though (even though this might be more hard core) I'd take the 458 Italia.
I'll keep dreaming sleep
Thats the issue. I think most would. I've heard a few people say "Oh I'd love a 458Italia" never heard "Oh I'd love a MP4-12C"...
You've never been standing by me, then.

I'd rather have a 12c.
Likewise. Ferrari can kiss my arse.