Tyres - Warning - Accelera
Discussion
Liquid Tuna said:
FFS stop being a girl. The worst you'll get is a bit of understeer or sliding. I've used Accelera tyres on a couple of cars before and they're fine unless you drive like a fool or beyond your ability.
The Accelera tyres I inherited on my Leon (diesel) were really rubbish in the wet. I remember the front sliding on a tight wet bend at about 20mph. I wasn't driving like a fool or imagining things. I could get wheelspin in third gear FFS!Put on Dunlops afterwards and they have a lot more grip in the wet despite being 20mm narrower.
LuS1fer said:
A Mustang workshop I know of swear by them...weird.
Yep and I followed the advice. The phi's on my 2011 5.0gt have given no issues in 9000 miles. In fact they are vastly superior to the original P zero neros. This smacks of the usual tyre debate on ph. I call troll on this thread. The car is an all weather daily driver.
Edited by Mykap on Saturday 21st September 04:52
Edited by Mykap on Saturday 21st September 04:53
Of the people posting up defending budget tyres, how many of you have had premium tyres on that same car?
I did a dramatic switch around on my MR2 from budget to premium and back.
Based on the relative merits of each tyre I'd be happy to stand by "dangerous". In an emergency stop situation the difference is staggering, even in the dry.
As a result of that experience even our station-run Yaris now wears premium tyres. Same effect.
One moped rider owes their good health to that decision. Missed him by inches when he drove straight out of a side road in he wet. Budgets would have locked and he'd be road slime.
I did a dramatic switch around on my MR2 from budget to premium and back.
Based on the relative merits of each tyre I'd be happy to stand by "dangerous". In an emergency stop situation the difference is staggering, even in the dry.
As a result of that experience even our station-run Yaris now wears premium tyres. Same effect.
One moped rider owes their good health to that decision. Missed him by inches when he drove straight out of a side road in he wet. Budgets would have locked and he'd be road slime.
CDP said:
On anything with a mid mounted engine there's no way I'd want to put an unknown tyre on. The difference in performance is astonishing; not just the limit but how the car behaves as it reaches it.
I bought the car with the budgets on, upgraded while I owned it then downgraded again prior to sale.I had two sets of "good" tyres on there, Toyo Proxes and Falken FK452s. I didn't like the handling on on Toyos at all, so it's not just cheap Vs expensive as a "cure all ills", but in both cases the emergency stop capabilities of the more expensive brand in the wet was huge.
_Al_ said:
CDP said:
On anything with a mid mounted engine there's no way I'd want to put an unknown tyre on. The difference in performance is astonishing; not just the limit but how the car behaves as it reaches it.
I bought the car with the budgets on, upgraded while I owned it then downgraded again prior to sale.I had two sets of "good" tyres on there, Toyo Proxes and Falken FK452s. I didn't like the handling on on Toyos at all, so it's not just cheap Vs expensive as a "cure all ills", but in both cases the emergency stop capabilities of the more expensive brand in the wet was huge.
Had sunny tyres on an espace we used to own.
Tramlined all over the road, was hard to keep in a straight line, sometimes pulled really badly to the left as if the tracking was way out, lots of road noise.
In the dry they were crap. In the wet they were scary. In the snow they were beyond useless.
Before we sold the car I fitted bridgestones (don't ask what model) and whilst they cost near double the difference was night and day.
TBH the espace in general was a horrid horrid peice of crap in every way
Tramlined all over the road, was hard to keep in a straight line, sometimes pulled really badly to the left as if the tracking was way out, lots of road noise.
In the dry they were crap. In the wet they were scary. In the snow they were beyond useless.
Before we sold the car I fitted bridgestones (don't ask what model) and whilst they cost near double the difference was night and day.
TBH the espace in general was a horrid horrid peice of crap in every way
Some budgets really don't work with some cars and quality control may be more problematic. Recently brought some budgets for a Civic Type R on the rears prior to trading the car in. The construction was meant to be XL. However the way they interacted with the front end Yokos had the back end wobbling on the sidewalls. Made it undriveable even though actual grip was OK. Replaced by Dunlops and same problem but less less pronounced. Swapped front to back and problem was cured. Eventually refunded for the cost of the budgets after the were independently tested and found to be faulty!
I bought a set of Nankang NS2 Ultrasport for my 530i; mentioned it here and was told they'd kill me as soon as I unlocked the car.
I've gone around bends & roundabouts quite fast to test their grip in the dry & wet & they're really very good.
They also score about 80% on the tyrereviews website.
I've gone around bends & roundabouts quite fast to test their grip in the dry & wet & they're really very good.
They also score about 80% on the tyrereviews website.
Kentish said:
I bought a set of Nankang NS2 Ultrasport for my 530i; mentioned it here and was told they'd kill me as soon as I unlocked the car.
I've gone around bends & roundabouts quite fast to test their grip in the dry & wet & they're really very good.
They also score about 80% on the tyrereviews website.
Got them on the 328, they're not bad tbh. I've gone around bends & roundabouts quite fast to test their grip in the dry & wet & they're really very good.
They also score about 80% on the tyrereviews website.
However, they are getting somewhat borderline and they have a tendency (as expected) to be a bit tasty in the wet. Not going to replace them at the mo as the winters will be going on next month.
obob said:
They are really not. I've had all sorts of budgets and none of them have ever slid out at corners and roundabouts at 30mph. Pretty sure people are lying, exaggerating or drive like idiots.
They really bloody are. Some (not all) budget tyres are beyond terrible, and how they manage to get approval to be used in the UK is amazing.Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff