This will make you gasp ! Dealership wants how much .......
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quiraing said:
1973 Escort Mk1 Mexico. Right, whip off the two little orange-indicator lense-screws with a phillips driver and fire in a complete new bulb. Retighten. Check rubber seals - add tiny smear of silicone if necessary.
By then your missus still won't have returned to supermarket carpark yet with trolley of shopping.
True . . .
90's stuff was even better, a lot of it just bulb covers and clips!By then your missus still won't have returned to supermarket carpark yet with trolley of shopping.
True . . .
This is the single good thing about my first car - simplicity. The fiesta popular I had for a few months was so simple. The first thing I did was to swap a bulb in about 30 seconds with no tools. Open bonnet, pull off connector, pop bulb in, close bonnet. Job jobbed. Modern cars are stupid compared to that basic old thing. They are faster and better in every measurable way, except they have zero common sense.
I long for a VERY simple car again, which performs to an acceptable standard...
I long for a VERY simple car again, which performs to an acceptable standard...
I have a 2006 730d and I recently had to change the side light bulb. I'd been putting the job off because it's a pain to do, and the dealer near me quoted a similar price (over £100+vat). However with an upcoming MOT it meant I had to do it.
I did some research online and struggled to find a guide, but PH came up trumps for me. So be props to PHer simonreed who found this guide for me: http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showpost.php?s=a8...
Having completed the job I can confirm that it would not be possible to do this with the bumper and lights in place. The key reason being that even once the headlight is removed from the vehicle, you have to take a mounting bracket off the bottom of the light cluster to get access to the cover for the angel eye bulb. Also, the wiring for the angle eye is a plug which fits into the rear of the bulb assembly, and you'd have little to no chance of getting it hooked up with your hand down behind the light in place.
In terms of why it's been designed that way? I don't know. I know that there's one bulb responsible for illuminating BOTH the inner and outer halos. It does this using fibre optic light pipes which channel light from the single bulb into each ring. So that being the case it seems like it would have been possible to mount the bulb itself wherever they wanted (within reason) and thereby make it easier to change. However they didn't and the bulb is located under a cover, which is under a bracket, which is on the bottom of the light, behind a lot of metalwork, and is impossible to access with the light in the car. Good one...!
Fortunately, with the help of the guide, I was done with both sides in under 2 hours (upgraded to LED's instead of incandescent bulbs, so my halos are 'pure white' now). Still, not something I'd be doing at the side of the road!
I did some research online and struggled to find a guide, but PH came up trumps for me. So be props to PHer simonreed who found this guide for me: http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showpost.php?s=a8...
Having completed the job I can confirm that it would not be possible to do this with the bumper and lights in place. The key reason being that even once the headlight is removed from the vehicle, you have to take a mounting bracket off the bottom of the light cluster to get access to the cover for the angel eye bulb. Also, the wiring for the angle eye is a plug which fits into the rear of the bulb assembly, and you'd have little to no chance of getting it hooked up with your hand down behind the light in place.
In terms of why it's been designed that way? I don't know. I know that there's one bulb responsible for illuminating BOTH the inner and outer halos. It does this using fibre optic light pipes which channel light from the single bulb into each ring. So that being the case it seems like it would have been possible to mount the bulb itself wherever they wanted (within reason) and thereby make it easier to change. However they didn't and the bulb is located under a cover, which is under a bracket, which is on the bottom of the light, behind a lot of metalwork, and is impossible to access with the light in the car. Good one...!
Fortunately, with the help of the guide, I was done with both sides in under 2 hours (upgraded to LED's instead of incandescent bulbs, so my halos are 'pure white' now). Still, not something I'd be doing at the side of the road!
WasEYEconned said:
My 730d 2008 in for an oil change,just had a call from the dealership,
"Sir the front parking light bulb needs changing,is it ok to do that ?"
How much ? Expecting him to reply a fiver sir !
That will be approx £140 plus vat !!!!
Apparently they need to take off the front bumper to replace the bulb and that will be an hour job.
Lolololololol
No it's not ok
Sounds cheap compared to a friend for his Range Rover! £150 for the bulb plus £100 to fit. It too apparently needed the bumper and grille removed to fit."Sir the front parking light bulb needs changing,is it ok to do that ?"
How much ? Expecting him to reply a fiver sir !
That will be approx £140 plus vat !!!!
Apparently they need to take off the front bumper to replace the bulb and that will be an hour job.
Lolololololol
No it's not ok
nsi said:
I have a 2006 730d and I recently had to change the side light bulb. I'd been putting the job off because it's a pain to do, and the dealer near me quoted a similar price (over £100+vat). However with an upcoming MOT it meant I had to do it.
I did some research online and struggled to find a guide, but PH came up trumps for me. So be props to PHer simonreed who found this guide for me: http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showpost.php?s=a8...
Having completed the job I can confirm that it would not be possible to do this with the bumper and lights in place. The key reason being that even once the headlight is removed from the vehicle, you have to take a mounting bracket off the bottom of the light cluster to get access to the cover for the angel eye bulb. Also, the wiring for the angle eye is a plug which fits into the rear of the bulb assembly, and you'd have little to no chance of getting it hooked up with your hand down behind the light in place.
In terms of why it's been designed that way? I don't know. I know that there's one bulb responsible for illuminating BOTH the inner and outer halos. It does this using fibre optic light pipes which channel light from the single bulb into each ring. So that being the case it seems like it would have been possible to mount the bulb itself wherever they wanted (within reason) and thereby make it easier to change. However they didn't and the bulb is located under a cover, which is under a bracket, which is on the bottom of the light, behind a lot of metalwork, and is impossible to access with the light in the car. Good one...!
Fortunately, with the help of the guide, I was done with both sides in under 2 hours (upgraded to LED's instead of incandescent bulbs, so my halos are 'pure white' now). Still, not something I'd be doing at the side of the road!
The answer to your question, why? Is £100+VAT. I did some research online and struggled to find a guide, but PH came up trumps for me. So be props to PHer simonreed who found this guide for me: http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showpost.php?s=a8...
Having completed the job I can confirm that it would not be possible to do this with the bumper and lights in place. The key reason being that even once the headlight is removed from the vehicle, you have to take a mounting bracket off the bottom of the light cluster to get access to the cover for the angel eye bulb. Also, the wiring for the angle eye is a plug which fits into the rear of the bulb assembly, and you'd have little to no chance of getting it hooked up with your hand down behind the light in place.
In terms of why it's been designed that way? I don't know. I know that there's one bulb responsible for illuminating BOTH the inner and outer halos. It does this using fibre optic light pipes which channel light from the single bulb into each ring. So that being the case it seems like it would have been possible to mount the bulb itself wherever they wanted (within reason) and thereby make it easier to change. However they didn't and the bulb is located under a cover, which is under a bracket, which is on the bottom of the light, behind a lot of metalwork, and is impossible to access with the light in the car. Good one...!
Fortunately, with the help of the guide, I was done with both sides in under 2 hours (upgraded to LED's instead of incandescent bulbs, so my halos are 'pure white' now). Still, not something I'd be doing at the side of the road!
Sorry to gloat, I have been aware of this for a while but I've only just realised exactly how ridiculous it all is!
It's a bit of a joke really. I think if I had one of these cars where major disassembly was required to change a bulb, I'd just become one of those people who does absolutely no checks on their car between services and drives around with blown bulbs, mis-aligned headlights etc etc
Instead I drive a '90s car, which came with common sense as standard.
It's a bit of a joke really. I think if I had one of these cars where major disassembly was required to change a bulb, I'd just become one of those people who does absolutely no checks on their car between services and drives around with blown bulbs, mis-aligned headlights etc etc
Instead I drive a '90s car, which came with common sense as standard.
RobM77 said:
That's a bit harsh. I've got a 2007 3 series and they provide a little access door on the wheelarch liner. You turn the handle, open the door and can then just change the bulb there and then. If like me you have a woman's hands and arms you don't even need to jack the car up.
Changing any of the rear bulbs on an Octavia is a 2 minute job. Pull off boot trim, unclip bulb holder, replace bulb. Reverse process.
Replacing any of the front bulbs in my son's Octavia took a bit longer as you need a T10 screwdriver and a Philips screwdriver for some of them.
On mine though, it's a different matter as it has HID headlights. It is easier if you loosen off the bumper...
Replacing any of the front bulbs in my son's Octavia took a bit longer as you need a T10 screwdriver and a Philips screwdriver for some of them.
On mine though, it's a different matter as it has HID headlights. It is easier if you loosen off the bumper...
HustleRussell said:
Sorry to gloat, I have been aware of this for a while but I've only just realised exactly how ridiculous it all is!
A useful wake-up call for the many here on PH who think you can buy a big old barge for peanuts and then run it for the same as a Fiesta. If that was the case, the cars wouldn't fall to such low prices in the first place! Devil2575 said:
Apparently you need to remove the bumper to change the headlight bulb in a Mazda 6.
I managed it the first time by removing the wheel arch liner so I could see what i had to do and now I can do it just from an open bonnet.
Which series is that? On my mk1 I had to remove the wheel arch liner. Which was a joy because only half of the screw/plug things came out as they should. I managed it the first time by removing the wheel arch liner so I could see what i had to do and now I can do it just from an open bonnet.
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