Apparently I was in the wrong?
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s3fella said:
Quite a few people found out they had cancer today.
Quite a few died, just because that's worse doesn't make this better. It's all relative to your own life and this was an event for the OP so I guess he's lucky if this is the worst thing in his life.Did we establish if you are quite young OP? I would guess so because I did much the same as you when I was young but have chilled out slightly as I have aged. Now I just lift off, slight facial expression or maybe a shake of the head and a sigh then get on with it. I wonder if I drove like the Micra driver when I had mine?
Looked to me like you were driving fine, the Micra driver was a twot, you gunned it a bit to get past him (which I would have done) you don't want to be sat behind an idiot like that, he then thought it would be a good idea to cut in front of you and brake test you.
Idiots everywhere.... You were fine in my book.
Idiots everywhere.... You were fine in my book.
ker cyclists that put every small mistake on YouTube. Next time why don't you shout the reg number out.I'm in camp OP, I reckon most of the other posters on here would have done the same, they're just being the usual faceless self righteous muppets.
It's what your horn is for, to wake up stupid waiting for God Micra drivers, the accelerator pedal is so you can get close enough for the sheaths to hear it.
It's what your horn is for, to wake up stupid waiting for God Micra drivers, the accelerator pedal is so you can get close enough for the sheaths to hear it.
Urban Sports said:
Biker's Nemesis said:
Urban Sports said:
I'm in camp OP, I reckon most of the other posters on here would have done the same, they're just being the usual faceless self righteous muppets.
You reckon eh!Biker's Nemesis said:
Urban Sports said:
Biker's Nemesis said:
Urban Sports said:
I'm in camp OP, I reckon most of the other posters on here would have done the same, they're just being the usual faceless self righteous muppets.
You reckon eh!Urban Sports said:
Biker's Nemesis said:
Urban Sports said:
Biker's Nemesis said:
Urban Sports said:
I'm in camp OP, I reckon most of the other posters on here would have done the same, they're just being the usual faceless self righteous muppets.
You reckon eh!....How do you keep an idiot in suspense?
Biker's Nemesis said:
Urban Sports said:
Biker's Nemesis said:
Urban Sports said:
Biker's Nemesis said:
Urban Sports said:
I'm in camp OP, I reckon most of the other posters on here would have done the same, they're just being the usual faceless self righteous muppets.
You reckon eh!....How do you keep an idiot in suspense?
You need a better retort.
Agree with most posters, sorry OP.
Horn is to warn someone in order to avoid them doing something stupid, not to rebuke them.
As has been said, video shows lack of anticipation and/or unnecessary aggression.
Suggestion (and I am sure some people will flame me for it): consider some advanced training. RoSPA, IAM, HPC or just a day or half a day with Hugh at Cadence or Colin/Paul atCAT (or any other defensive driving coach). Driving in a manner that avoids confrontation whilst making progress subtly requires far more skill and delivers much great satisfaction than tooling around, sounding the horn and getting into arguments.
Also helps avoid this kind of thread, the kind that goes the wrong way...
Horn is to warn someone in order to avoid them doing something stupid, not to rebuke them.
As has been said, video shows lack of anticipation and/or unnecessary aggression.
Suggestion (and I am sure some people will flame me for it): consider some advanced training. RoSPA, IAM, HPC or just a day or half a day with Hugh at Cadence or Colin/Paul atCAT (or any other defensive driving coach). Driving in a manner that avoids confrontation whilst making progress subtly requires far more skill and delivers much great satisfaction than tooling around, sounding the horn and getting into arguments.
Also helps avoid this kind of thread, the kind that goes the wrong way...
Really?
At a freeze frame 3 seconds in the Micra is halfway across the road pulling into your direction of travel, enough for you to come off the throttle just incase anything goes wrong, having identified a hazard, or at the very least, bear it in mind.
By 5.5 seconds in, he's entirely in your lane, and not signalling to pull to the left, so he could have been remaining in your lane and accelerating to the limit, intending to take the same right as you.
By 7 seconds he's pulled half into the left lane and changed his mind, evening up. Already the logical assumption would be that he doesn't know the road layout, or where he is going, and to give him some extra room.
By 8 seconds in I was standing on my imaginary brake pedal.
By 9/10 seconds he brakes, either brake testing you, or simply a bit shocked at the car looming in his mirrors he hasn't seen, on a road he doesn't know. You don't appear to brake until he gets off the brakes. An instant after you beep your horn.
I'm no advanced motorist by any means, but I like my cars, and I take every effort not to prang them, or bash them up. I certainly wouldn't drive like that on a road against an unknown quantity.
You're the one on a motoring forum for motoring enthusiasts. You're the one with a dashcam. Surely it's safe to assume between the two, you're the keener motorist.
Drive like one.
At 3 seconds in you should have been aware, and able to come off the power to allow him room incase he made an error. No-one's infallible. Accidents happen when 2 cars collide. Arguably in many circumstances, one of the two parties actions could have avoided a collision. If this had been a collision, which thankfully it wasn't, you could just have easily avoided it as him by adjusting your driving style.
At a freeze frame 3 seconds in the Micra is halfway across the road pulling into your direction of travel, enough for you to come off the throttle just incase anything goes wrong, having identified a hazard, or at the very least, bear it in mind.
By 5.5 seconds in, he's entirely in your lane, and not signalling to pull to the left, so he could have been remaining in your lane and accelerating to the limit, intending to take the same right as you.
By 7 seconds he's pulled half into the left lane and changed his mind, evening up. Already the logical assumption would be that he doesn't know the road layout, or where he is going, and to give him some extra room.
By 8 seconds in I was standing on my imaginary brake pedal.
By 9/10 seconds he brakes, either brake testing you, or simply a bit shocked at the car looming in his mirrors he hasn't seen, on a road he doesn't know. You don't appear to brake until he gets off the brakes. An instant after you beep your horn.
I'm no advanced motorist by any means, but I like my cars, and I take every effort not to prang them, or bash them up. I certainly wouldn't drive like that on a road against an unknown quantity.
You're the one on a motoring forum for motoring enthusiasts. You're the one with a dashcam. Surely it's safe to assume between the two, you're the keener motorist.
Drive like one.
At 3 seconds in you should have been aware, and able to come off the power to allow him room incase he made an error. No-one's infallible. Accidents happen when 2 cars collide. Arguably in many circumstances, one of the two parties actions could have avoided a collision. If this had been a collision, which thankfully it wasn't, you could just have easily avoided it as him by adjusting your driving style.
The biggest thing for me is that there is a very large gap in front of you which is why the Micra driver comes out. I would be fully expecting someone to do that in a built up area. Also imagine if the road had been busier with a constant stream of cars; somebody is going to have to let this person out or adjust their speed to allow them the space. You can't drive around expecting that you won't have to adjust your driving!
The Micra driver cannot see you because of the cars on the other side of the road. The gap is enormous, you had so much time to react.
You definitely could've taken avoiding action earlier, but you wanted to prove a point. If you weren't trying to prove a point by not slowing down as soon as it became obvious there was an obstruction, well, there's a bigger problem.
The Micra driver cannot see you because of the cars on the other side of the road. The gap is enormous, you had so much time to react.
You definitely could've taken avoiding action earlier, but you wanted to prove a point. If you weren't trying to prove a point by not slowing down as soon as it became obvious there was an obstruction, well, there's a bigger problem.
Edited by RenOHH on Wednesday 27th November 23:05
CallorFold said:
I didn't try to teach him anything? I wasn't intentionally "on-his-arse" - that's merely what happened after he decided to slap the brakes for no reason?
The video wasn't "attitude" either, just general interest of what I did wrong - to which I guess the answer would be 'making the assumption he was staying in the left hand lane'
The reality is that you didn't do anything wrong. The video wasn't "attitude" either, just general interest of what I did wrong - to which I guess the answer would be 'making the assumption he was staying in the left hand lane'
Just probably best to not pick up speed to pass until a tit is firmly in the left lane to save yourself the risk of what that mug did. And probably not worth using the horn. The roads are full of idiots like that and you aren't ever going to correct them.
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