Man rides bike with child in trailer down dual carriage way
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ExPat2B said:
60mph, It is infamous for road accidents, recently a Police car stuck and killed a pedestrian walking along that road and the inquest cleared him
"prosecutors said the officer driving the car could not have expected someone to be walking on the side of the A31"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-32353820
Drunk, walking in lane 2 on a foggy night wearing dark clothing. Just slightly different!"prosecutors said the officer driving the car could not have expected someone to be walking on the side of the A31"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-32353820
Mr Will said:
ExPat2B said:
60mph, It is infamous for road accidents, recently a Police car stuck and killed a pedestrian walking along that road and the inquest cleared him
"prosecutors said the officer driving the car could not have expected someone to be walking on the side of the A31"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-32353820
Drunk, walking in lane 2 on a foggy night wearing dark clothing. Just slightly different!"prosecutors said the officer driving the car could not have expected someone to be walking on the side of the A31"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-32353820
http://www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/local-news/recap-m...
http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/9998742.Calls_to_t...appallingA31_accident_rate/
It is not a road you would willingly walk down unless you had a death wish.
It's amazing that in PH Lycra land, all DCs are arrow straight, have no awkward unsighted junctions and no undulations. And therefore utterly irresponsible f
ktards carrying their precious little Johnnies in a glorified tent on wheels with a safety flag pose no danger to themselves, their sprogs, and the other road users. Darwinism by proxy.
ktards carrying their precious little Johnnies in a glorified tent on wheels with a safety flag pose no danger to themselves, their sprogs, and the other road users. Darwinism by proxy. Diderot said:
It's amazing that in PH Lycra land, all DCs are arrow straight, have no awkward unsighted junctions and no undulations. And therefore utterly irresponsible fktards carrying their precious little Johnnies in a glorified tent on wheels with a safety flag pose no danger to themselves, their sprogs, and the other road users. Darwinism by proxy.
Not at all. You drive to the conditions. If you can't see you slow down. Otherwise that thing you might not see might kill you (fallen tree perhaps?). You should be able to stop in the distance of clear road in front of you.ktards carrying their precious little Johnnies in a glorified tent on wheels with a safety flag pose no danger to themselves, their sprogs, and the other road users. Darwinism by proxy. Anyone not doing so could be said to be acting irresponsibly. I have no doubt what the police or a coroner would say to your view of the world.
lostkiwi said:
Diderot said:
It's amazing that in PH Lycra land, all DCs are arrow straight, have no awkward unsighted junctions and no undulations. And therefore utterly irresponsible fktards carrying their precious little Johnnies in a glorified tent on wheels with a safety flag pose no danger to themselves, their sprogs, and the other road users. Darwinism by proxy.
Not at all. You drive to the conditions. If you can't see you slow down. Otherwise that thing you might not see might kill you (fallen tree perhaps?). You should be able to stop in the distance of clear road in front of you.ktards carrying their precious little Johnnies in a glorified tent on wheels with a safety flag pose no danger to themselves, their sprogs, and the other road users. Darwinism by proxy. Anyone not doing so could be said to be acting irresponsibly. I have no doubt what the police or a coroner would say to your view of the world.
And the cyclist would be safer towing his trailer along a narrow country lane, also with a 60mph limit, or a two-lane 'A' or 'B' road, also with 60mph limit?
Reckless f*cktards in cars are quite capable of wiping out cyclists on smaller roads, often with worse forward visibility than dual carriageways. Some of the worst roads to ride on IME are country lanes near towns or cities, which generally have rat running cars batting along them at totally unsuitable speeds.
As for endangering children, I won't mention the number of cars I see being driven idiotically with kids in the back...
Reckless f*cktards in cars are quite capable of wiping out cyclists on smaller roads, often with worse forward visibility than dual carriageways. Some of the worst roads to ride on IME are country lanes near towns or cities, which generally have rat running cars batting along them at totally unsuitable speeds.
As for endangering children, I won't mention the number of cars I see being driven idiotically with kids in the back...
Diderot said:
So presumably you slow down every time there's a bend in the motorway?
Read the post. I slow down when I can't see far enough to stop within the distance of clear road ahead. Thats why I've managed to get to the age I have having driven 40k miles per year for the past 15 years with no accidents in the past 10 years. Thats not to say I travel slowly either - as several of my friends will attest!article said:
Highways Agency chiefs are being asked to tackle the “appalling” accident rate on the road, made even more poignant following the death of 53- year-old Ringwood man Ross Lipsett last Tuesday.
He died when his BMW crashed into a stationary lorry parked in a lay-by on Poulner Hill.
The motion, presented by all four district councillors – Steve Rippon- Swaine, Christine Ford,
Michael Thierry and Barbara Woodifield – says the town council has deep concerns about the number
of accidents on the A31 from Picket Post to Ashley Heath roundabout.
It urges the Highways Agency to review, in consultation with Ringwood Town Council, measures
to improve the road.
Cllr Thierry said: “This is a campaign that has been going for nearly four years, but has really started to get moving now.
“The A31 has a dismal and appalling accident rate and we need to do something about it.
“There are a number of issues that need to be looked at including the bus stops along the road
that aren’t used, the speed limit and the lack of appropriate signage.
“What we don’t want to happen is for them to look at it and then just send us a letter. We want to get
around a table and explain the problems face-to-face and seek solutions from them. We believe the road
has been neglected by the Highways Agency and the time is well overdue for them to come and take a look at it.”
More than 1,000 people signed a petition calling for the proposed improvements which include
reducing the speed limit from 70mph to 50mph, creating a crawler lane eastbound and better
signs advising drivers to get into the right lane earlier.
Without the full facts, but someone crashing into a truck parked up in a layby isnt a reason for a lower speed limitHe died when his BMW crashed into a stationary lorry parked in a lay-by on Poulner Hill.
The motion, presented by all four district councillors – Steve Rippon- Swaine, Christine Ford,
Michael Thierry and Barbara Woodifield – says the town council has deep concerns about the number
of accidents on the A31 from Picket Post to Ashley Heath roundabout.
It urges the Highways Agency to review, in consultation with Ringwood Town Council, measures
to improve the road.
Cllr Thierry said: “This is a campaign that has been going for nearly four years, but has really started to get moving now.
“The A31 has a dismal and appalling accident rate and we need to do something about it.
“There are a number of issues that need to be looked at including the bus stops along the road
that aren’t used, the speed limit and the lack of appropriate signage.
“What we don’t want to happen is for them to look at it and then just send us a letter. We want to get
around a table and explain the problems face-to-face and seek solutions from them. We believe the road
has been neglected by the Highways Agency and the time is well overdue for them to come and take a look at it.”
More than 1,000 people signed a petition calling for the proposed improvements which include
reducing the speed limit from 70mph to 50mph, creating a crawler lane eastbound and better
signs advising drivers to get into the right lane earlier.
ExPat2B said:
60mph, It is infamous for road accidents, recently a Police car stuck and killed a pedestrian walking along that road and the inquest cleared him
"prosecutors said the officer driving the car could not have expected someone to be walking on the side of the A31"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-32353820
How come it's 60 not 70?"prosecutors said the officer driving the car could not have expected someone to be walking on the side of the A31"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-32353820
ExPat2B said:
60mph, It is infamous for road accidents, recently a Police car stuck and killed a pedestrian walking along that road and the inquest cleared him
"prosecutors said the officer driving the car could not have expected someone to be walking on the side of the A31"
Was this in Farnham? If so I can understand why because there is no other road through Farnham. "prosecutors said the officer driving the car could not have expected someone to be walking on the side of the A31"
Edited by thelawnet1 on Friday 26th June 15:54
Diderot said:
It's amazing that in PH Lycra land, all DCs are arrow straight, have no awkward unsighted junctions and no undulations. And therefore utterly irresponsible fktards carrying their precious little Johnnies in a glorified tent on wheels with a safety flag pose no danger to themselves, their sprogs, and the other road users. Darwinism by proxy.
It's more amazing that someone who presumably rates themselves as a good driver, doesn't understand one of the most basic rules of diving: Drive at a speed that will allow you to stop well within the distance you can see to be clear. ktards carrying their precious little Johnnies in a glorified tent on wheels with a safety flag pose no danger to themselves, their sprogs, and the other road users. Darwinism by proxy. Back to school for you!
It is self-evidently massively stupid to do what this cyclist did.
Anyone arguing otherwise really does need to have a think about whether they would rather (a) proudly assert their right to be on whatever road they like, no matter the risk to themselves or others or (b) keep their child safe from an obvious and non-negligible risk of death.
If someone took those kind of risks with my child, they wouldn't be riding a bike again in a hurry
Anyone arguing otherwise really does need to have a think about whether they would rather (a) proudly assert their right to be on whatever road they like, no matter the risk to themselves or others or (b) keep their child safe from an obvious and non-negligible risk of death.
If someone took those kind of risks with my child, they wouldn't be riding a bike again in a hurry
Diderot said:
So presumably you slow down every time there's a bend in the motorway?
Since when could you not see round a bend in the motorway far enough to be able to see in the distance you can see to be clear (or do you drive too close to the car in front anyway)? Edited by Zod on Friday 26th June 16:01
I drive that stretch of road many times each week. It doesn't strike me as any more dangerous than the 10 miles of road either side of it.
I have seen a few crashes there, just as over the last 21 years I have been using the road I have seen them before or after that stretch. The sad thing is you can never ever argue with the "safety" justification for making it single lane or lowering the speed limit.
I have seen a few crashes there, just as over the last 21 years I have been using the road I have seen them before or after that stretch. The sad thing is you can never ever argue with the "safety" justification for making it single lane or lowering the speed limit.
BGarside said:
And the cyclist would be safer towing his trailer along a narrow country lane, also with a 60mph limit, or a two-lane 'A' or 'B' road, also with 60mph limit?
Reckless f*cktards in cars are quite capable of wiping out cyclists on smaller roads, often with worse forward visibility than dual carriageways. Some of the worst roads to ride on IME are country lanes near towns or cities, which generally have rat running cars batting along them at totally unsuitable speeds.
As for endangering children, I won't mention the number of cars I see being driven idiotically with kids in the back...
Jesus, you really are a dReckless f*cktards in cars are quite capable of wiping out cyclists on smaller roads, often with worse forward visibility than dual carriageways. Some of the worst roads to ride on IME are country lanes near towns or cities, which generally have rat running cars batting along them at totally unsuitable speeds.
As for endangering children, I won't mention the number of cars I see being driven idiotically with kids in the back...
head..If the road is that dangerous to take your child on, regardless of who's in the wrong, then you don't take your child on it.
Would you walk down a street whilst a maniac gunman was shooting people, just because you should be able to or you have the right to ?
thelawnet1 said:
ExPat2B said:
60mph, It is infamous for road accidents, recently a Police car stuck and killed a pedestrian walking along that road and the inquest cleared him
"prosecutors said the officer driving the car could not have expected someone to be walking on the side of the A31"
Was this in Farnham? If so I can understand why because there is no other road through Farnham. "prosecutors said the officer driving the car could not have expected someone to be walking on the side of the A31"
Edited by thelawnet1 on Friday 26th June 15:54
It is a dangerous bit of road as
- no hard shoulder
- road surface is poor
- undulations and dips leading to poor sighting. Also the undulations fill with water during rain creating standing water in outside and inside lane.
- a number of 90 degree cuts in the central reservation that mean traffic crosses directly over in front of oncoming traffic
- number of junctions that have joining slips just a hundred metres long, which does not allow joining traffic to match speed of traffic on DC
-a number of laybys and houses have driveways with no slip road leading directly onto the DC.
-no lighting
Dick Turpin said:
Diderot said:
It's amazing that in PH Lycra land, all DCs are arrow straight, have no awkward unsighted junctions and no undulations. And therefore utterly irresponsible fktards carrying their precious little Johnnies in a glorified tent on wheels with a safety flag pose no danger to themselves, their sprogs, and the other road users. Darwinism by proxy.
It's more amazing that someone who presumably rates themselves as a good driver, doesn't understand one of the most basic rules of diving: Drive at a speed that will allow you to stop well within the distance you can see to be clear. ktards carrying their precious little Johnnies in a glorified tent on wheels with a safety flag pose no danger to themselves, their sprogs, and the other road users. Darwinism by proxy. Back to school for you!
ktard and clearly negligent. And to whomever compared it to driving a car with airbags, a safety cell, restraints and a child car seat, perhaps you should desist from taking non-prescription drugs. There are frequently f
ktards cycling along the A27 between Chichester and Fontwell (not straight, not flat and has some nasty entry slips and exits that are accident blackspots). Is it legal, sadly yes, is it safe or sensible? of course it isn't. Most of the time, it causes all sorts of issues. There's also a cycle path. Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff