Stolen Golf R & Touareg R

Stolen Golf R & Touareg R

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giger

732 posts

196 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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I know it doesn't help you OP, but there have been a LOT of Golf Rs stolen just about everywhere, plenty by me.

I wouldn't have one for this reason.

There has a video doing the rounds earlier in the year of a woman being attacked with a baseball bat on her drive. Thieves lying in wait and when she got out of the car they attacked her - no threats, just attacked her.

The criminals love them.

amancalledrob

1,248 posts

136 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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giger said:
I know it doesn't help you OP, but there have been a LOT of Golf Rs stolen just about everywhere, plenty by me.
You probably shouldn't own up to that on a public forum, you know hehe

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

128 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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amancalledrob said:
giger said:
I know it doesn't help you OP, but there have been a LOT of Golf Rs stolen just about everywhere, plenty by me.
You probably shouldn't own up to that on a public forum, you know hehe
Not just me reading that several times, then...

Gio G

2,955 posts

211 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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burty39 said:
Thanks, there is a sensor on the doors but it didn't go off

All the locks were upgraded yesterday and I have someone coming today to look at better options for cctv and alarm, thinking of a monitor alert system as we are at the end of a quiet lane and its pitch black at night so no reason for anyone to be around unless they are up to no good

Thankfully both cars are leased with Gap insurance otherwise it would have been even more costly
Hi OP, sorry to hear about these thefts. I had my Golf R taken in a broad daylight, carjacked off the in-laws driveway. It is just the inconvenience and potential emotional stuff you have to deal with afterwards.. Mine was leased and I had GAP, however didn't really help me much, given it was quite a new agreement..

Hope it is found and you get over it..

G

MrBarry123

6,033 posts

123 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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TooMany2cvs said:
amancalledrob said:
giger said:
I know it doesn't help you OP, but there have been a LOT of Golf Rs stolen just about everywhere, plenty by me.
You probably shouldn't own up to that on a public forum, you know hehe
Not just me reading that several times, then...
rofl

Brilliant, made my day!

Golf R owners - watch out for the PHer giger! He's a right menace for those Golf Rs.

rofl

OP - sorry to hear of the theft however it's good to hear you were covered from a financial perspective and that no-one was injured.

giger

732 posts

196 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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MrBarry123 said:
TooMany2cvs said:
amancalledrob said:
giger said:
I know it doesn't help you OP, but there have been a LOT of Golf Rs stolen just about everywhere, plenty by me.
You probably shouldn't own up to that on a public forum, you know hehe
Not just me reading that several times, then...
rofl

Brilliant, made my day!

Golf R owners - watch out for the PHer giger! He's a right menace for those Golf Rs.

rofl

OP - sorry to hear of the theft however it's good to hear you were covered from a financial perspective and that no-one was injured.
rofl Sorry, I thought I was posting on the bragging forum laugh

In case the police or my solicitor are reading this - it wasn't me guv. Honest biggrin

Adz The Rat

14,340 posts

211 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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burty39 said:
Yes in Harwood after being stinged in Read!, police are saying there is a major gang based in Harwood / Rishton with links to Manchester and they have been very active for 9 months now
Great! Not what we want to hear but at least the police have eyes on them.
Unfortunately there isn't a great deal you can do if they decide they want your car these days.

burty39

Original Poster:

354 posts

203 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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giger said:
Anti bump locks with cylinders that are difficult to drill and pick. Most multipoint locks are weak due to the key cylinder and/or handle. don't assume that just because you have a multipoint lock on your door that it is actually very good. Upgrade the cylinder.

Cars stolen by gangs are generally not stolen to a specific order - the gangs know the desirable cars and what they will get for them and steal to break or export. Some high performance cars will also be used for other crime. I think you have painted a view of how things were 10-15 years ago.

CCTV is generally pointless - all you get is the video of the person breaking in to your house. It might deter opportunists, but not criminal gangs.
Yes this is the type of lock upgraded to and investment is going to be in the alarm system rather than improved CCTV.

However will need one new camera as the Bas@@@s took one with them!!

burty39

Original Poster:

354 posts

203 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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Gio G said:
Hi OP, sorry to hear about these thefts. I had my Golf R taken in a broad daylight, carjacked off the in-laws driveway. It is just the inconvenience and potential emotional stuff you have to deal with afterwards.. Mine was leased and I had GAP, however didn't really help me much, given it was quite a new agreement..

Hope it is found and you get over it..

G
Cheers, same here, Golf 3 months old, Touareg 4

Golf is recovered and in repair shop, Touareg not been found

Dog Star

16,214 posts

170 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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Evolved said:
Seriously? You'd risk being beaten and possibly worse for an insured lump of metal?
The thing is that it's not as simple as that: my garage got burgled in 2014 and both the OH and I had a motorcycle stolen. That's a total loss claim each. So that's two excesses. Then there's the bike insurance that have gone through the roof, and the car insurance has all gone through the roof too - remember that on four premiums BOTH the main and named driver each have a total loss claim.

It's cost me fking thousands overall (not to mention the thousands and thousands of pounds worth of stuff the insco wheedled out of paying for (check out the price of Yamaha outboard motors....).

So yes - the answer is that I'll take my chances on a beating to defend my stuff. The insurance might pay to replace the vehicle but there's the excesses and bumped premiums for five years to consider.

Also consider that although a thief might be prepared to burgle your house for the keys the likeliehood of them actually challenging you for them are pretty remote - aggravated burglary is going to get them banged up for a long time.

So I take my chances and I hide my keys.

SlimJim16v

5,795 posts

145 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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Most burglars if surprised or confronted will want to escape rather than risk capture or identification, even the violent ones. So the worst thing you can do is block their escape, where even the non-violent ones will use violence.

Don't forget they'll also be armed, tools used to get in. They may also have grabbed one of your nice, big and sharp kitchen knives, just in case.

RammyMP

6,831 posts

155 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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I'm not too far away and do a fair few miles, I'll keep me peeled for the toerag.

Marvtec

421 posts

161 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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Really sorry to hear OP.

On a selfish note I hate reading posts like this as it fuels my paranoia about the golf R on my drive currently. I have an alarm, uprated locks etc but if they're willing to smash windows and bolt cut/angle grind the gate locks what can I realistically do?

I'm not overly bothered if it disappears from a car park, but coming into my house to get keys is a different level altogther.

Squadrone Rosso

2,785 posts

149 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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Sorry to read this.

Multi layer security is where it is at. Good physical security blended with good electronic security. Dogs are great too.

That said, most of the kit we have access to in work (which will get us through most doors quietly) can be bought by Joe Public.

Fight or flight is a reaction you cannot predict. Our house alarm went off at 03:30 last winter & the dog went nuts.

I was up & downstairs, suitably equipped, before my wife realised what was happening.

Thankfully, it was a false alarm.

I'm not condoning that reaction, or saying I'd do it again.

Marvtec

421 posts

161 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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Squadrone Rosso said:
Sorry to read this.

Multi layer security is where it is at. Good physical security blended with good electronic security. Dogs are great too.

That said, most of the kit we have access to in work (which will get us through most doors quietly) can be bought by Joe Public.

Fight or flight is a reaction you cannot predict. Our house alarm went off at 03:30 last winter & the dog went nuts.

I was up & downstairs, suitably equipped, before my wife realised what was happening.

Thankfully, it was a false alarm.

I'm not condoning that reaction, or saying I'd do it again.
Can you expand on this?

Which physical security have you gone with and what did you equip yourself with? Be vague if you're uncomfortable with specifics.

Have a dog but more worried about potential harm to her than anything tbh

castroses

247 posts

100 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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Welshbeef said:
If they want your cars they will get them and threaten you /inflict injuries to you and your family to get it.

Our keys are left in a very obvious place no need to come upstairs. Cars take them I couldn't care less - come upstairs it's not going to end well.
Sure!!!
If you're gonna leave them the keys they won't need to come upstairs so you'll never know!!!

My keys are in my bedroom.

Stakeknife

76 posts

125 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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I'd be looking at armoured handles on UPVC doors. Anti snap cylinders can still be drilled out but risky in the early hours.
Failing that an alarm with no delay on doors would be my next bet. Not had house alarm go off but one of smoke detectors (falsely), honestly when that goes off it took 0.5 seconds to go from dreaming about washing my car to being ready for war. I'd be at the top of the steps either to throw nearest thing down which would be a 3 stone plant or the keys depending how bad they smelt.

matthias73

2,883 posts

152 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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Geekman said:
Welshbeef said:
If they want your cars they will get them and threaten you /inflict injuries to you and your family to get it.

Our keys are left in a very obvious place no need to come upstairs. Cars take them I couldn't care less - come upstairs it's not going to end well.
Indeed, it's not going to end well for you at all.
The third option is the thief walks up the stairs and gets absolutely clobbered.

twoblacklines

1,575 posts

163 months

Thursday 27th October 2016
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I do wonder what realistically happens in this scenario though.

Theif of part of gang comes up stairs, you smash the granny out of him, if you don't get hurt from the rest of the gang and they run away leaving you with him as Police come...then what?

1. Police arrest you for assault and he sues you?
2. Police arrest him for armed robbery, you are a hero, gang comes back next week not to nick anything but you put you in a coma / kill you for their friend and dented pride?
3. You go to prison, where they have friends, and you die in prison?

Where does it end?

matthias73

2,883 posts

152 months

Thursday 27th October 2016
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All possible, but there is also the option that the bloke gets clobbered and that's that.

I'd personally risk it, but then again I don't have a wife or kids.