RE: VW Tiguan R testing

[Burwood]

Alucidnation said:

Nanook said:

Alucidnation said:

What amazes me, although it shouldn't, is people comparing it to a Golf R ffs.

Why?

Broadly the same size, same drivetrain, comparative power outputs, same number of seats, same looks, same badge, why shouldn't you compare them?

Being in a completely different class is quite a big difference I would say.

Some one who is looking for an SUV is not going to be interested in a Golf.

Other way round i would say. My wife had an A3 and moved to an SUV when we had the second kid. It's push chairs that screw your boot space. Anyway, she now likes the higher up position and the AWD. Just her opinion. We are also quite rural so often hit the odd paddock outside the pub or single track road.

[legless]

Burwood said:

OpulentBob said:

vz-r_dave said:

is it to feel good at the traffic lights?

Not for me it wouldn't. The Tiguan is a pretty good package but it's heavy and none of the engines can pull the skin off a rice pudding. Laden down with kids, gear and a full tank, it is poor at overtaking imho. I'm also a bit sick of diesels.

I had a short drive last week in a colleague's Tiguan BiTDI 240PS, and it seemed spritely enough to me. It's not going to set the world on fire, but I wouldn't expect it to.

Granted though, it wasn't fully loaded by any stretch.

[Burwood]

legless said:

Burwood said:

OpulentBob said:

vz-r_dave said:

is it to feel good at the traffic lights?

Not for me it wouldn't. The Tiguan is a pretty good package but it's heavy and none of the engines can pull the skin off a rice pudding. Laden down with kids, gear and a full tank, it is poor at overtaking imho. I'm also a bit sick of diesels.

I had a short drive last week in a colleague's Tiguan BiTDI 240PS, and it seemed spritely enough to me. It's not going to set the world on fire, but I wouldn't expect it to.

Granted though, it wasn't fully loaded by any stretch.

I'll agree it would be adequate but it's still a 2.0L Diesel with an extra turbo and the wick turned up on what is the same engine. A nice £4k premium . I've read that it is unrefined and given the 150PS Diesel actually returns sub 40mpg the 240PS version must be 30mpg real world. I'd rather pay 2-3k more and get the FF petrol

[PunterCam]

What a dreary car for dreary people. It's about as bland a car as anyone could dream of for that money. You know what I need in my pointlessly raised golf? 25mpg and st styling.

I've had a great day.

[J4CKO]

PistonBroker said:

Zetec-S said:

From my observations, there are 2 types of Tiguan buyer:

1. School run mum. Buys a 2.0TDi for fuel economy and cheap tax. But must be R-Line spec so it's more sporty/sparkly.
2. Bert and Mavis. For the weekly shopping run, and trips to National Trust properties.

Neither of these groups will want a proper "R" version, so they'll probably sell about 10.

3. Husband, wife, two kids and dog seek new replacement for 11-year-old CRV and 9-year-old MX5 combo. CRV was first SUV they owned - bought simply because it was a good deal from a family member - and wife has now decided the high seating position is the only one for her. Tiguan on its way out so husband snaps up dirt-cheap PCH deal on a 2.0 TDi Match. Diesel not required in the slightest but that was the deal.

I love the idea of something like this, or RSQ3 or SQ5. But, in fairness, I'd have to agree with your last line. 150bhp is more than enough for Mrs PB and if I'm having that motor I'd rather it was in a toy.

4. Ram Raiders


These will be hot property for jobbing scumbags, loads of power, good ground clearance, four wheel drive, four doors.

It is like its been designed specifically for them !

At least Golf R owners may get some respite.

[CDP]

Burwood said:

We are also quite rural so often hit the odd paddock outside the pub or single track road.

I love this excuse, sorry reason. It's trotted out so many Londoners who move out to the country (or suburbs) to justify their shiny new off roader to their liberal ecomentalist towny friends.

Having lived in the country all my life on single track roads a Fiat Panda or my MG works better because they're narrow. I'm not sure fat high performance tyres will help much on a paddock and certainly not as good as winter tyres on FWD in the snow.

Liking it should enough to own an SUV, supercar, boat etc, what others think it's terribly important unless you're planning on being an MP. (In which case I'd suggest a castle, collection of vintage Bentleys and raging libido)

[Yipper]

Doubt it will reach market.

But if they do launch it, for <£40k, or <£400 on a lease, it will be a big hit. Looks and sounds good.

[F1GTRUeno]

vz-r_dave said:

I am not, I am asking why, help me understand why people buy these things? Afterall we are all here to learn are we not? I love the application on the Audi RS but I feel that this is a complete waste in the baby SUV sector.

People in buying a car they want for whatever reason they want shocker.

[Burnham]

Awesome, I like the look of the R-Line but this will have the feet to fill the boots. Could be a good replacement for our S3 Sportback.

I actually miss our old RangeRover Sport, so I'd go for this (and I'm not going to tell anyone why).

[Zetec-S]

Burnham said:

Awesome, I like the look of the R-Line but this will have the feet to fill the boots. Could be a good replacement for our S3 Sportback.

I actually miss our old RangeRover Sport, so I'd go for this (and I'm not going to tell anyone why).

Because you want a dull and anonymous VW suv which doesn't handle quite so well as a Golf R and costs £10k more

[Demonix]

£46k for a hyper tiguan.... Erm no thanks! Drop the money on a fast estate or a used Macan/Cayenne/Jag f-pace if you have to ferry the family in a fast SUV.
Depreciation on a hot tig would be eye watering. Plus the Alfa stelvio may actually be worth a look?

[paralla]

I'm coming to the end of a two year lease on a 2.0tdi Tiguan originally chosen as a practical daily driver on a cheap lease deal to go alongside a weekend toy.

When looking to replace it I was going to get another Tig but petrol, I think councils or TFL will start penalising diesels for parking or London CC or whatever sooner rather than later.

Was keeping one eye on the PH lease thread and have a Golf R Estate incoming because it's a great lease deal, I'd have one of these if it had reasonable monthlies.

I have no idea what list on a Golf R Estate is, makes no difference to me. If VW support them like they do Golf R's and previous generation Tiguas they will be everywhere despite a high list price.

[Burwood]

CDP said:

Burwood said:

We are also quite rural so often hit the odd paddock outside the pub or single track road.

I love this excuse, sorry reason. It's trotted out so many Londoners who move out to the country (or suburbs) to justify their shiny new off roader to their liberal ecomentalist towny friends.

Having lived in the country all my life on single track roads a Fiat Panda or my MG works better because they're narrow. I'm not sure fat high performance tyres will help much on a paddock and certainly not as good as winter tyres on FWD in the snow.

Liking it should enough to own an SUV, supercar, boat etc, what others think it's terribly important unless you're planning on being an MP. (In which case I'd suggest a castle, collection of vintage Bentleys and raging libido)

Your issue with SUVs, clearly no kids.

[chrispmartha]

PunterCam said:

What a dreary car for dreary people. It's about as bland a car as anyone could dream of for that money. You know what I need in my pointlessly raised golf? 25mpg and st styling.

I've had a great day.

What car do you drive?

[TeaNoSugar]

Alucidnation said:

Nanook said:

Alucidnation said:

What amazes me, although it shouldn't, is people comparing it to a Golf R ffs.

Why?

Broadly the same size, same drivetrain, comparative power outputs, same number of seats, same looks, same badge, why shouldn't you compare them?

Being in a completely different class is quite a big difference I would say.

Some one who is looking for an SUV is not going to be interested in a Golf.

On the contrary - I had a Golf R. Absolutely loved it, and if there are good deals to be had on this I'll be straight on it. It looks like it has the potential to be pretty good to me, but then again I've always loved the idea of a hSkoda Yeti with the Golf R running gear!

I can definitely see why it's compared to the Golf R.

[Burnham]

Zetec-S said:

Burnham said:

Awesome, I like the look of the R-Line but this will have the feet to fill the boots. Could be a good replacement for our S3 Sportback.

I actually miss our old RangeRover Sport, so I'd go for this (and I'm not going to tell anyone why).

Because you want a dull and anonymous VW suv which doesn't handle quite so well as a Golf R and costs £10k more

You got it!

[Burwood]

Burnham said:

Zetec-S said:

Burnham said:

Awesome, I like the look of the R-Line but this will have the feet to fill the boots. Could be a good replacement for our S3 Sportback.

I actually miss our old RangeRover Sport, so I'd go for this (and I'm not going to tell anyone why).

Because you want a dull and anonymous VW suv which doesn't handle quite so well as a Golf R and costs £10k more

You got it!

Perfect

[va1o]

I hope this is real as it's been a while since VW last offered a performance car with more than 4-cylinders! Would probably sell reasonably well if priced right, making an interesting alternative to an SQ5 or Golf R Estate

[HannsG]

Love the styling on the new Tiguan. Looks purposeful.

[johnnnnnnyy]

If somebody took a new Tiguan too a workshop, put a Golf R engine in it, along with a few other modifications then created a build thread on it, the thread would be full of praise 'bonkers, but well done for doing it' and be fascinated.

VW do it, and everyone slagging them off here? I say well done VW for doing it, it shows they have that bonkers workshop kid mentality still, while other car manufactures play safe. They're having fun with what should be family cars, and won't care how many numbers they sell.