RE: Audi R8 Spyder V10 Plus vs McLaren 570S Spider
Discussion
Streetrod said:
This, I am 6ft 2in and even in the coupe version fo the R8 and Huracan which are basically the same car it is very difficult to get a comfortable driving position. When you switch to the spider it becomes a bit of a joke. In both cars, the backrest is almost vertical with the seat pushed back as far as it can go and you are still left with little leg room. The worst bit is that my head sits above the windscreen header rail so with the roof closed you have to slouch or cant your head to one side to stop it hitting the roof. Not good
Was this with the bucket seats? I'm 6ft 1in and have no problems in the non-bucketsMr Moley said:
Streetrod said:
This, I am 6ft 2in and even in the coupe version fo the R8 and Huracan which are basically the same car it is very difficult to get a comfortable driving position. When you switch to the spider it becomes a bit of a joke. In both cars, the backrest is almost vertical with the seat pushed back as far as it can go and you are still left with little leg room. The worst bit is that my head sits above the windscreen header rail so with the roof closed you have to slouch or cant your head to one side to stop it hitting the roof. Not good
Was this with the bucket seats? I'm 6ft 1in and have no problems in the non-buckets![frown](/inc/images/frown.gif)
Desert Dragon said:
I love the MSO option taking the Maccas price from £165,000 to £226,000 i.e. more than a 720S
MSO Money Sucking Operation...
it's funny that for the price of just the options you can get a low mileage previous gen V10 Audi R8 spyder and have £2k to spare, before negotiations!MSO Money Sucking Operation...
https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
WCZ said:
it's funny that for the price of just the options you can get a low mileage previous gen V10 Audi R8 spyder and have £2k to spare, before negotiations!
https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
Ref Mclaren option costs they are frankly no more or less outrageous than those of other supercar manufacturers and of course you don’t have to choose them ! https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
There are of course always a few “must haves” either for practical or resale purposes, on the latter thing for example I doubt there’s a Ferrari salesman in the land who would let you but car without ticking the Shields box. Is this a bit of a pee take ? Of course it is but that’s the way of the market.
As for the 570S I think the only must have is the security pack (parking beepers, camera, tracker and nose lift) everything else is a matter of personal taste.
Edited by anonymous-user on Tuesday 31st October 12:20
RSK21 said:
Ref Mclaren option costs they are frankly no more or less outrageous than those of other supercar manufacturers and of course you don’t have to choose them !
There are of course always a few “must haves” either for practical or resale purposes, on the matter king fkr example I doubt there’s a Ferrari salesman in the land who would let you but car without ticking the Shields box. Is this a bit of a pee take ? Of course it is but that’s the way of the market.
As for the 570S I think the only must have is the security pack (parking beepers, camera, tracker and nose lift) everything else is a matter of personal taste.
no beef with Mclaren, they want to make money just like the rest of us.There are of course always a few “must haves” either for practical or resale purposes, on the matter king fkr example I doubt there’s a Ferrari salesman in the land who would let you but car without ticking the Shields box. Is this a bit of a pee take ? Of course it is but that’s the way of the market.
As for the 570S I think the only must have is the security pack (parking beepers, camera, tracker and nose lift) everything else is a matter of personal taste.
I just think it's absurd that people spend £15k on pointless carbon fiber which saves no weight, I mean £1,870 for Carbon fibre sill finishers is nuts.
I'd go for a completely standard spec but with an ashtray and possibly security pack just for the sake of tracker/lift
sc0tt said:
One hell of an options list at McLaren.
£40k of carbon fibre frippery and £5k of c-f seats.Oh dear... :shakesheadsadly:
I've said it before - C-F as a structural material is great, and in the right context is a thing of beauty (not as much as aluminium IMHO, but still...). However, C-F as decoration is a weird, "because race car" fashion that really needs to give up now.
Anyway, tough call there - can I have the V10 powertrain in the Mclaren chassis, please?!?
suffolk009 said:
bertie said:
Surely the Mcalren is a total no brainer.
No one as a schoolboy dreams of one day owning an Audi
I have a very good friend who owns an R8. But then he is an accountant.No one as a schoolboy dreams of one day owning an Audi
I’d still take one in a heartbeat to put in my lottery funded car barn.
Blackpuddin said:
The one that made me titter was Audi's £650 for picking a different colour of stitching thread off the shelf.
Seems like very good value for taking seats / dash / door cards / other interior panels off the standard automated production line to use a different stitching on the leather.Also looks bloody good when bright paint is matched with bright stitching in a black leather interior IMO
cheddar said:
I know at this level options don't come cheap but over £40,000 for those carbon fibre bits still seems extraordinary
Crazy money isn't it. I'm not the only person who realises that you can buy quite a nice complete and working whole sports car for the price of those options.Was thinking this over after re-reading the article, and couldn't help but think that it matters not which car is the better mechanically or aesthetically, nor the ludicrous cost of 'extras' on either car.
I'd bet that the biggest sales are to Premier League Prima Donnas and their WAGs, so it's perhaps more the 'you only spent £25k on extras? Man, I did £60k wivaht finking twice..' mentality that matters most in the club carpark....
As 95% of my driving would be on A&B roads, with the odd track day thrown in, I'd be wanting the one that I'm comfortable in, the one that doesn't have a joke luggage space,and the one that will be reliable and I can use it everyday if so desired.
Oops, sorry, just talked myself into a 911 Turbo S methinks....
I'd bet that the biggest sales are to Premier League Prima Donnas and their WAGs, so it's perhaps more the 'you only spent £25k on extras? Man, I did £60k wivaht finking twice..' mentality that matters most in the club carpark....
As 95% of my driving would be on A&B roads, with the odd track day thrown in, I'd be wanting the one that I'm comfortable in, the one that doesn't have a joke luggage space,and the one that will be reliable and I can use it everyday if so desired.
Oops, sorry, just talked myself into a 911 Turbo S methinks....
RSK21 said:
Ref Mclaren option costs they are frankly no more or less outrageous than those of other supercar manufacturers and of course you don’t have to choose them !
For me, the issue is with charging for things that are standard on much lesser cars than the two mentioned. That seems to be the true piss take.My example being the Audi - where the charge of £275 for cruise control seems utterly ludicrous, when it's standard on my wife's £40k Q5, for example. Why? "Because £275 is nothing to people spending that on an R8" is not a valid comment by anyone, really (not that you made that comment, but others have!!) The bottom line is that if a feature is standard on a cheaper model in the range, then it should damn well NOT be a charge option on the flagship model.
All that being said, I think if anyone is daft enough to pay £10,400 for green paint and brown leather (when another green option and brown option on the same seats is c.£450), then they perhaps deserve to have their money removed from their wallet. It's probably for their own good!
Cruise control, do people even use it though? I mean it’s not about the 275 or Audi not making it standard but whenever I do go on the motorway which is rare, I say to myself, right, I’m going to go for a 40mpg target, I’m going to take my time and leave it at 75.....until I keep having to brake and over take lorries in the inside lane at 60 then get stuck behind people sitting in the middle lane at 65 while weaving in and out of traffic because of the idiots who sit in the outside lane, I struggle to remain calm on motorways as nobody has a clue how to drive so I end up driving like an idiot (becoming like them) and get many middle fingers and w
ker signs.
Anyways my point is, do R8 drivers do enough miles (or motorway miles) to actually use cruise control? Maybe Audi don’t offer it standard to save however amount of time it takes to install in the factory
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Anyways my point is, do R8 drivers do enough miles (or motorway miles) to actually use cruise control? Maybe Audi don’t offer it standard to save however amount of time it takes to install in the factory
RSK21 said:
AdamV8V said:
£227,000
Two-hundred-and-twenty-seven-thousand-pounds.
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At that price I'll take my 600bhp drop-top in the shape of Vanquish S Volante, thanks![cloud9](/inc/images/cloud9.gif)
And you'll Be buying a totally different type of car in for it Two-hundred-and-twenty-seven-thousand-pounds.
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At that price I'll take my 600bhp drop-top in the shape of Vanquish S Volante, thanks
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I read the review and it suggests to me that the R8 is an ultra sporty GT, and the McLaren a very raw supercar. And I guess the Aston is another step in the GT direction? So is it more a question of what type of car you want, rather than which of the two reviewed is better......?
havoc said:
I've said it before - C-F as a structural material is great, and in the right context is a thing of beauty (not as much as aluminium IMHO, but still...). However, C-F as decoration is a weird, "because race car" fashion that really needs to give up now.
Of course it's also a licence to print money because whilst structural CFRP is quite expensive to produce, especially in large pieces, lower quality CF for trim costs peanuts. kambites said:
Of course it's also a licence to print money because whilst structural CFRP is quite expensive to produce, especially in large pieces, lower quality CF for trim costs peanuts.
the biggest joke imo is that people actually buy carbon fiber and stick it ontop of their interior trim, adding even more weight! there's a guy on ferrarichat who put £15k's worth inside his 458. daft as f![](/inc/images/censored.gif)
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