RE: Land Rover revives the V8 Defender

RE: Land Rover revives the V8 Defender

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Frimley111R

15,725 posts

236 months

Wednesday 17th January 2018
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God that steering wheel is awful.

NomduJour

19,248 posts

261 months

Wednesday 17th January 2018
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PunterCam said:
It's sad that anyone would buy one of these. Horrid, and shows how far Land Rover have fallen.
Odd attitude - whilst I can’t pretend to like the wheels, this is only what the aftermarket have been offering for a decade - a powerful, refined, modern drivetrain in an old car with a bit of charm.


Baddie

653 posts

219 months

Wednesday 17th January 2018
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I see no reason why JLR shouldn’t cash in, just like everyone else.

JLR are a growing success story, and good luck to them as a British company (even if Indian owned, they seem to be allowed to run themselves).

Personally, I am not drawn to McGovern bling, cynical pricing strategies, and ongoing quality queries. It doesn’t mean I’d rather see the company missing out on any opportunity to secure its future.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

128 months

Wednesday 17th January 2018
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That goptastic steering wheel...


It's just the standard one from the last Puma Defenders.


I did briefly wonder if it might contain an airbag, but no.

oldtimer2

728 posts

135 months

Wednesday 17th January 2018
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This model will serve two useful purposes for JLR. (1) It will, or should, make money for SVO.
(2) It will grab attention back from the recently updated Jeep (LA show) and the G-wagen (Detroit show) for Land Rover's 70th anniversary and reset the narrative for the launch of the all new Defender replacement (at the forthcoming Geneva show?).


KTF

9,859 posts

152 months

Wednesday 17th January 2018
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TooMany2cvs said:
That goptastic steering wheel...
From that angle, the wheel always reminds me of an octopus (all be it with a few less appendages) clapping above its head.

In a similar vein to the drunken octopus coat hook.


Uncle John

4,346 posts

193 months

Wednesday 17th January 2018
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The wheel is a cruel joke given the price of this thing!

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

128 months

Wednesday 17th January 2018
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KTF said:
From that angle, the wheel always reminds me of an octopus (all be it with a few less appendages) clapping above its head.
Once seen, cannot be unseen...

The rot set in with (proper) LR interiors when this simple, functional elegance...

...became this horrible plastic mess...


(and here I speak as somebody who's recently changed the washer jets on his s3, which means taking all of that ridiculously unnecessary plastic, and the steel backing frame, out just to get to the screws for the driver's demister nozzle...)

RumbleOfThunder

3,581 posts

205 months

Wednesday 17th January 2018
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The interior and wheel are fine. Who cares what the steering wheel looks like really, if we're not nit picking?

The Wookie

13,993 posts

230 months

Wednesday 17th January 2018
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jet_noise said:
Will sell, good marketing.

But 400hp and 106mph. Is that a record?
That'll be limited, I've had 106mph out of mine with just over half the power!

Ninja59

3,691 posts

114 months

Wednesday 17th January 2018
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I do like this, but JLR are just making a vast amount of profit on something that has taken like it or not "minimal" effort to actually integrate. It does sound to me like strapping the word "classic" on the end is making up a VERY large proportion of that price.

More effort was put into the Project 8 for god sake, and that is cheaper!

Looking around I would suspect the ZF 8HP variant is the hugely flexible 8HP70. The wheels are hideous as well, like others Diamond Cut is just stupid on any car, totally stupid on a car of this nature.

treeroy

564 posts

87 months

Wednesday 17th January 2018
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maybe I am missing something but who exactly buys these things? it would be a lot cheaper to buy a Defender and put a V8 in it yourself...

Ninja59

3,691 posts

114 months

Wednesday 17th January 2018
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treeroy said:
maybe I am missing something but who exactly buys these things? it would be a lot cheaper to buy a Defender and put a V8 in it yourself...
Collectors to squirrel it away for X years or flippers looking for a quick profit.

Baddie

653 posts

219 months

Wednesday 17th January 2018
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TooMany2cvs said:
Once seen, cannot be unseen...

The rot set in with (proper) LR interiors when this simple, functional elegance...

...became this horrible plastic mess...


(and here I speak as somebody who's recently changed the washer jets on his s3, which means taking all of that ridiculously unnecessary plastic, and the steel backing frame, out just to get to the screws for the driver's demister nozzle...)
Agreed, disliked the interior in my S3 enough to rip it all out for homemade ally/MDF

legless

1,709 posts

142 months

Wednesday 17th January 2018
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The Wookie said:
That'll be limited, I've had 106mph out of mine with just over half the power!
Yup - it'll be so that R rated tyres can be used. Decent off-road tyres aren't readily available in higher speed ratings.

gazza285

9,863 posts

210 months

Wednesday 17th January 2018
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MDL111 said:
loudlashadjuster said:
TooMany2cvs said:
mondeomk4 said:
It is the fuel injected Jaguar-Land Rover engine,

Somewhere along the line ‘naturally-aspirated’ for me seems to have stopped meaning ‘carburetted’.
It never did.

"Naturally aspirated" - as opposed to "forced induction" (turbo, supercharger etc) - has never said anything about the fuel supply, just everything about the pressure of the air supply. There's a clue in "aspirated"...

(Naturally aspirated diesels?)
Quite. I re-read mondeomk4's comment a few times as I thought I must be missing something. Not sure I've ever heard of someone who thought 'naturally aspirated' meant 'carburetted'.
I think it was meant in jest
I hope so, seeing as lots of forced induction cars had carburetors...

M1C

1,840 posts

113 months

Wednesday 17th January 2018
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Crazy money.

But. If ever there was a safe place to put your money in a car...i'd say this was it. I can't see them losing value now that the Defender is dead. (ish!)

treeroy

564 posts

87 months

Wednesday 17th January 2018
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Ninja59 said:
Collectors to squirrel it away for X years or flippers looking for a quick profit.
well who's buying it from the flippers then?!

camel_landy

4,954 posts

185 months

Wednesday 17th January 2018
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treeroy said:
maybe I am missing something but who exactly buys these things? it would be a lot cheaper to buy a Defender and put a V8 in it yourself...
Indeed...

Grab yourself a donor vehicle, a copy of MicroCat and you now have an 'Off-the-shelf' route to creating your own. wink

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Fire99

9,844 posts

231 months

Wednesday 17th January 2018
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I quite like it for all its pointlessness but starting at £150k for the 90 is plain ridiculous.. (Even if I'm sure people will buy them) Half the price would be just about in scope I think...

It's a very simple car that could be recreated for a pretty modest sum.