Shell V-Power unleaded price premium over standard
Discussion
markiii said:
mp3manager said:
Being Scottish I'm tighter than two coats of paint, doubly so since I'm on benefits but my FK2 Type R always runs on V-Power regardless of the cost.
A true petrolhead gives their P&J the best, IMO.
and people say benefits are too low A true petrolhead gives their P&J the best, IMO.
Edited by mp3manager on Monday 7th May 16:49
markiii said:
mp3manager said:
Being Scottish I'm tighter than two coats of paint, doubly so since I'm on benefits but my FK2 Type R always runs on V-Power regardless of the cost.
A true petrolhead gives their P&J the best, IMO.
and people say benefits are too low A true petrolhead gives their P&J the best, IMO.
Edited by mp3manager on Monday 7th May 16:49
I could have a rather tedious Jazz on Motability but instead use the same disability money to drive something more interesting and PH worthy.
HTH.
Evanivitch said:
Crap attempt at an analogy.
No one is suggesting that a single tank of premium fuel will solve all your woes.
Just like a single McDonalds meal doesn't make you obese.
But a single caffeine drink of 40mg caffeine can make a difference to your behaviour even if your drink 2 litres of water. And yet it's an insignificant amount by mass.
Chemistry is a wonderful thing.
Ok, then its like designing an energy drink, which when taken regularly, will give you a massive caffeine high. But, since different people are/are not affected by caffeine, to play it safe you design an energy drink which has such a minimum amount of caffeine that it affects no one at all.No one is suggesting that a single tank of premium fuel will solve all your woes.
Just like a single McDonalds meal doesn't make you obese.
But a single caffeine drink of 40mg caffeine can make a difference to your behaviour even if your drink 2 litres of water. And yet it's an insignificant amount by mass.
Chemistry is a wonderful thing.
That boy, is 'Premium' in a nutshell. As it happens I could drink 5 Redbulls and not feel anything, my mate could drink 1 and be off the walls. Now imagine the dangers of that in petrol. As a result, you get a Redbull diluted with 5 gallons of water.
EazyDuz said:
Ok, then its like designing an energy drink, which when taken regularly, will give you a massive caffeine high. But, since different people are/are not affected by caffeine, to play it safe you design an energy drink which has such a minimum amount of caffeine that it affects no one at all.
That boy, is 'Premium' in a nutshell. As it happens I could drink 5 Redbulls and not feel anything, my mate could drink 1 and be off the walls. Now imagine the dangers of that in petrol. As a result, you get a Redbull diluted with 5 gallons of water.
Again, your analogy falls flat because you're comparing a tolerance built up over time.That boy, is 'Premium' in a nutshell. As it happens I could drink 5 Redbulls and not feel anything, my mate could drink 1 and be off the walls. Now imagine the dangers of that in petrol. As a result, you get a Redbull diluted with 5 gallons of water.
It's just not the case that the additives added to premium fuel have no effect. Whether they have an instant effect, or are economically practical or whether all cars take advantage of them to the same same extent is up for discussion (mainly following the scientific method), but to draw a parallel between premium fuel additives and homeopathy is completely incorrect.
Evanivitch said:
Again, your analogy falls flat because you're comparing a tolerance built up over time.
It's just not the case that the additives added to premium fuel have no effect. Whether they have an instant effect, or are economically practical or whether all cars take advantage of them to the same same extent is up for discussion (mainly following the scientific method), but to draw a parallel between premium fuel additives and homeopathy is completely incorrect.
Tldr, Premium charges a premium but you get nothing in return except lies and marketing.It's just not the case that the additives added to premium fuel have no effect. Whether they have an instant effect, or are economically practical or whether all cars take advantage of them to the same same extent is up for discussion (mainly following the scientific method), but to draw a parallel between premium fuel additives and homeopathy is completely incorrect.
Tldr of tldr: Buy normal petrol.
EazyDuz said:
Ok, then its like designing an energy drink, which when taken regularly, will give you a massive caffeine high. But, since different people are/are not affected by caffeine, to play it safe you design an energy drink which has such a minimum amount of caffeine that it affects no one at all.
That boy, is 'Premium' in a nutshell. As it happens I could drink 5 Redbulls and not feel anything, my mate could drink 1 and be off the walls. Now imagine the dangers of that in petrol. As a result, you get a Redbull diluted with 5 gallons of water.
Ah, I disagree with you on the designed effect of the additives. The recipe will be calculated to give the best result in the largest number of cars which frequent that particular company's forecourts; not the minimum effect in the cars least likely to benefit. Therefore most customers will see an improvement.That boy, is 'Premium' in a nutshell. As it happens I could drink 5 Redbulls and not feel anything, my mate could drink 1 and be off the walls. Now imagine the dangers of that in petrol. As a result, you get a Redbull diluted with 5 gallons of water.
Well my Dad was born near Inverness, but despite that I put Tesco Momentum in my E91 yesterday morning because my BMW Indy recommends it (and my Z4 had EML issues last year on Regular fuel)!
Momentum was £1.269 per litre, Regular was £1.219 so not a crippling price difference (unlike Shell)! This was in Berkshire.
Momentum was £1.269 per litre, Regular was £1.219 so not a crippling price difference (unlike Shell)! This was in Berkshire.
I dont know if there's any truth in it, but i have been told that Tesco 99 contains more ethanol than V power. Apparently to bump up the RON? But i do know that if you have 2 identical cars, one tuned on Shell and the other on Tesco. The Tesco fuelled car will produce more power, so that kind of rings true because Ethanol does produce more power. Bring back E85 Morrisons pls 
Ethanol production is more destructive to the environment and also pushes up food prices, quite a few engines also have issues with high percentage ethanol blends.
I use standard petrol for day to day urban driving and shell V-max when doing trackdays or rural driving, I can't justify the added cost of 20p a litre over standard when my car does less than 20mpg.
EazyDuz said:
Tldr, Premium charges a premium but you get nothing in return except lies and marketing.
Tldr of tldr: Buy normal petrol.
To each their own but Shell in particular spend millions on things like the Pearl GTL plant and whilst I don't know the numbers I believe there's a fair amount of GTL in V-Power making it "clean".Tldr of tldr: Buy normal petrol.
I could simply be falling for marketing hype but I don't think "lies and marketing" is true either.
janesmith1950 said:
The M3 (F80) loves V-Power. Can't say it feels noticably faster or more responsove, but the MPG is usually a little better. BMW do recommend it, not that I put it in very often (typically use the Sainsbury's nearest and put their 97 stuff in).
I only stick in Super in the E92 M3 - can't tell the difference between V-Power and the rest but assume it has beneficial cleaning effects and thus reluctantly pay £1.38 per litre in SW London. Tesco's round me have long queues all the time and happy to pay a premium to avoid queuing.I use Shell V-Power unleaded or diesel in all my vehicles. Was out for the May Day Run yesterday on my bike. Stopped on the way to the start point (Locksbottom) to get some fuel, was just about to begin fueling when I glanced for the price.
Shell Unleaded was 124.9ppl. The garage I stopped at were charging 141.9ppl for V-Power... Needless to say the pump was returned quickly to the holder, glove went back on and I made a hasty exit.
Another Shell site, 5 miles down the road charged 134.9ppl. Aside from rampant profiteering I can see no logical reason for the pricing.
It does also go the other way. I regularly use another site that charges 6-7ppl premium over the standard fuels for V-Power.
Shell Unleaded was 124.9ppl. The garage I stopped at were charging 141.9ppl for V-Power... Needless to say the pump was returned quickly to the holder, glove went back on and I made a hasty exit.
Another Shell site, 5 miles down the road charged 134.9ppl. Aside from rampant profiteering I can see no logical reason for the pricing.
It does also go the other way. I regularly use another site that charges 6-7ppl premium over the standard fuels for V-Power.
Sadly there isn’t a Shell garage near me, so I use BP.
Stick the Ultimate diesel in my car and it seems to run better and smoother than on regular.
Also less haze from the exhaust under WOT.
Car has upgraded intercooler and a Land Rover specific map from a good tuner.
Plus 174,4** miles on the clock.
The mapper told me to avoid running it on supermarket fuel. So I don’t.
Stick the Ultimate diesel in my car and it seems to run better and smoother than on regular.
Also less haze from the exhaust under WOT.
Car has upgraded intercooler and a Land Rover specific map from a good tuner.
Plus 174,4** miles on the clock.
The mapper told me to avoid running it on supermarket fuel. So I don’t.
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