RE: 300hp Subaru Levorg run-out gets more JDM muscle

RE: 300hp Subaru Levorg run-out gets more JDM muscle

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HM-2

12,467 posts

171 months

Monday 18th November 2019
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Monkeylegend said:
HM-2 said:
ericmcn said:
A 320d oil burner gets him a hard on it seems,
Do you ever post anything other than utter drivel? What's your obsession with diesel BMWs? Why do you behave like an antagonist throbber all the time?
He got out dragged by a 118 diesel some time ago.
Oh I know that, but that's a bit of a strange reason to start a crusade against diesel BMWs.
I also don't understand why Eric is always so unfathomably angry with everyone and everything?

SidewaysSi

10,742 posts

236 months

Monday 18th November 2019
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Monkeylegend said:
HM-2 said:
ericmcn said:
A 320d oil burner gets him a hard on it seems,
Do you ever post anything other than utter drivel? What's your obsession with diesel BMWs? Why do you behave like an antagonist throbber all the time?
He got out dragged by a 118 diesel some time ago.

That will forever be his legacy.
That deserves a clap

SidewaysSi

10,742 posts

236 months

Monday 18th November 2019
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Elatino1 said:
SidewaysSi said:
Tell me what is so good about Subaru's current UK range and why they are superior to everything remotely comparable.

No insults, just give fact and reasoned opinion.
To answer a question with a question as some posters do..... what other AWD estate cars can be had brand new for £28k?
Plenty are in the same ballpark. And think the Levorg is nearer £30k list.

anonymous-user

56 months

Monday 18th November 2019
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Monkeylegend said:
He got out dragged by a 118 diesel some time ago.

That will forever be his legacy.
Top drawer rofl

Monkeylegend

26,584 posts

233 months

Monday 18th November 2019
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Thanks guys, I am here all week smile

anonymous-user

56 months

Wednesday 20th November 2019
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SidewaysSi said:
Elatino1 said:
SidewaysSi said:
Tell me what is so good about Subaru's current UK range and why they are superior to everything remotely comparable.

No insults, just give fact and reasoned opinion.
To answer a question with a question as some posters do..... what other AWD estate cars can be had brand new for £28k?
Plenty are in the same ballpark. And think the Levorg is nearer £30k list.
Ok so what brand new AWD estate cars can be had for £30k list price?

ghosthtx

19 posts

64 months

Thursday 5th December 2019
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I don’t get the negativity towards Subaru (especially modern ones) on Pistonheads? Why is that?

I have owned a Levorg for the last 15 months or so and found it comfortable, spacious, very stable and safe (especially in the winter) and at least spritely (though never outright sporty - only the 1.6 turbo model, here).

Imho it is more interesting than an Octavia, Golf or Focus wagon and comes with much more equipment as standard in the Sport Premium spec than any of the above.

The CVT isnt sporty, it is, however, very very smooth. Smoother than any regular slush box Ive driven and far smoother than any automated manual I have experienced.

The Levorg isnt meant to be a WRX wagon either - it is a tourer, a family wagon with a little sniff of sporting pretention. Not everyones cup of tea, but then again how boring would life be if we all wanted the same thing?

I guess that either Subaru marketing have screwed up somewhere, or the press just dont get it, as I have seen the Levorg in group tests against either more expensive models and / or wagons from the next bracket up (Passat / Mondeo etc).

End of rant...


Monkeylegend

26,584 posts

233 months

Thursday 5th December 2019
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ghosthtx said:
I don’t get the negativity towards Subaru (especially modern ones) on Pistonheads? Why is that?

I have owned a Levorg for the last 15 months or so and found it comfortable, spacious, very stable and safe (especially in the winter) and at least spritely (though never outright sporty - only the 1.6 turbo model, here).

Imho it is more interesting than an Octavia, Golf or Focus wagon and comes with much more equipment as standard in the Sport Premium spec than any of the above.

The CVT isnt sporty, it is, however, very very smooth. Smoother than any regular slush box Ive driven and far smoother than any automated manual I have experienced.

The Levorg isnt meant to be a WRX wagon either - it is a tourer, a family wagon with a little sniff of sporting pretention. Not everyones cup of tea, but then again how boring would life be if we all wanted the same thing?

I guess that either Subaru marketing have screwed up somewhere, or the press just dont get it, as I have seen the Levorg in group tests against either more expensive models and / or wagons from the next bracket up (Passat / Mondeo etc).

End of rant...
It's not the car per se smile

ghosthtx

19 posts

64 months

Thursday 5th December 2019
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Ok, what is then? The owners? The company itself?

SidewaysSi

10,742 posts

236 months

Thursday 5th December 2019
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Elatino1 said:
SidewaysSi said:
Elatino1 said:
SidewaysSi said:
Tell me what is so good about Subaru's current UK range and why they are superior to everything remotely comparable.

No insults, just give fact and reasoned opinion.
To answer a question with a question as some posters do..... what other AWD estate cars can be had brand new for £28k?
Plenty are in the same ballpark. And think the Levorg is nearer £30k list.
Ok so what brand new AWD estate cars can be had for £30k list price?
Think there are quite a few...And no one really pays list.

anonymous-user

56 months

Friday 6th December 2019
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SidewaysSi said:
Think there are quite a few...And no one really pays list.
If there are quite few then name a few.

I put list price as you said they were more like £30k list, that was your comment. So what other options are there brand new AWD, estate, fully optioned for £30k list?

SidewaysSi

10,742 posts

236 months

Friday 6th December 2019
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Elatino1 said:
SidewaysSi said:
Think there are quite a few...And no one really pays list.
If there are quite few then name a few.

I put list price as you said they were more like £30k list, that was your comment. So what other options are there brand new AWD, estate, fully optioned for £30k list?
Given there are less than 500 in the UK since going on sale, I think many people are finding alternatives so you may want to ask them what they are buying instead as everyone has different priorities.

I wouldn't buy one - personally I would much rather a BMW or even a Golf R.

anonymous-user

56 months

Friday 6th December 2019
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So you can't answer the question? thought not.

SidewaysSi

10,742 posts

236 months

Friday 6th December 2019
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Elatino1 said:
So you can't answer the question? thought not.
I can't be arsed to do your research for you. Golfs, BMWs, Volvos are all the same ballpark - have a look for yourself. Besides, as many pay monthly, list price has little bearing on cost.

Not sure what point you are trying to make. I can't see the appeal of the Levorg and it would seem that plenty can't either.

Edited by SidewaysSi on Friday 6th December 21:25

anonymous-user

56 months

Friday 6th December 2019
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No there are no AWD Golfs, BMWs,Volvos or whatever that you claim there are plenty of for that money. I was merely pointing out your incorrect assertion, no need to get shirty.

You don't seem to be able to admit when you are mistaken? If you read back you were essentially asking why would anyone buy one, I was just stating a very valid reason.

SidewaysSi

10,742 posts

236 months

Friday 6th December 2019
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Elatino1 said:
No there are no AWD Golfs, BMWs,Volvos or whatever that you claim there are plenty of for that money. I was merely pointing out your incorrect assertion, no need to get shirty.

You don't seem to be able to admit when you are mistaken? If you read back you were essentially asking why would anyone buy one, I was just stating a very valid reason.
That wasn't getting shirty at all.

Golf R, XDrive BMWs etc. are in the same ballpark. And you need to consider lease costs.

I still ask why anyone would buy one...well, the 500 people in the UK have a reason but it's hardly a big seller so most people don't know or much care about it do they?

In reality, Subaru currently sell some very average cars which is a shame but poor sales are the obvious result.

anonymous-user

56 months

Friday 6th December 2019
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SidewaysSi said:
Golf R, XDrive BMWs etc. are in the same ballpark.
Sorry but no they aren't. List price (brand new) they are a fair bit more money.

SidewaysSi

10,742 posts

236 months

Saturday 7th December 2019
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Elatino1 said:
SidewaysSi said:
Golf R, XDrive BMWs etc. are in the same ballpark.
Sorry but no they aren't. List price (brand new) they are a fair bit more money.
Read the above again.

DeltonaS

3,707 posts

140 months

Saturday 7th December 2019
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SidewaysSi said:
Elatino1 said:
SidewaysSi said:
Golf R, XDrive BMWs etc. are in the same ballpark.
Sorry but no they aren't. List price (brand new) they are a fair bit more money.
Read the above again.
Plus they're all Haldex 4wd systems these days.

anonymous-user

56 months

Saturday 7th December 2019
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SidewaysSi said:
Read the above again.
I see you are one for moving the goalposts. Of course some (mainly German) manufacturers offer cheap lease deals hence the streets are littered with them. Japanese manufacturers generally don't do that.

In regards to the list price I see you can't give a single example. Will leave it at that.