RE: 300hp Subaru Levorg run-out gets more JDM muscle
Discussion
Monkeylegend said:
HM-2 said:
ericmcn said:
A 320d oil burner gets him a hard on it seems,
Do you ever post anything other than utter drivel? What's your obsession with diesel BMWs? Why do you behave like an antagonist throbber all the time?I also don't understand why Eric is always so unfathomably angry with everyone and everything?
Monkeylegend said:
HM-2 said:
ericmcn said:
A 320d oil burner gets him a hard on it seems,
Do you ever post anything other than utter drivel? What's your obsession with diesel BMWs? Why do you behave like an antagonist throbber all the time?That will forever be his legacy.
Elatino1 said:
SidewaysSi said:
Tell me what is so good about Subaru's current UK range and why they are superior to everything remotely comparable.
No insults, just give fact and reasoned opinion.
To answer a question with a question as some posters do..... what other AWD estate cars can be had brand new for £28k?No insults, just give fact and reasoned opinion.
SidewaysSi said:
Elatino1 said:
SidewaysSi said:
Tell me what is so good about Subaru's current UK range and why they are superior to everything remotely comparable.
No insults, just give fact and reasoned opinion.
To answer a question with a question as some posters do..... what other AWD estate cars can be had brand new for £28k?No insults, just give fact and reasoned opinion.
I don’t get the negativity towards Subaru (especially modern ones) on Pistonheads? Why is that?
I have owned a Levorg for the last 15 months or so and found it comfortable, spacious, very stable and safe (especially in the winter) and at least spritely (though never outright sporty - only the 1.6 turbo model, here).
Imho it is more interesting than an Octavia, Golf or Focus wagon and comes with much more equipment as standard in the Sport Premium spec than any of the above.
The CVT isnt sporty, it is, however, very very smooth. Smoother than any regular slush box Ive driven and far smoother than any automated manual I have experienced.
The Levorg isnt meant to be a WRX wagon either - it is a tourer, a family wagon with a little sniff of sporting pretention. Not everyones cup of tea, but then again how boring would life be if we all wanted the same thing?
I guess that either Subaru marketing have screwed up somewhere, or the press just dont get it, as I have seen the Levorg in group tests against either more expensive models and / or wagons from the next bracket up (Passat / Mondeo etc).
End of rant...
I have owned a Levorg for the last 15 months or so and found it comfortable, spacious, very stable and safe (especially in the winter) and at least spritely (though never outright sporty - only the 1.6 turbo model, here).
Imho it is more interesting than an Octavia, Golf or Focus wagon and comes with much more equipment as standard in the Sport Premium spec than any of the above.
The CVT isnt sporty, it is, however, very very smooth. Smoother than any regular slush box Ive driven and far smoother than any automated manual I have experienced.
The Levorg isnt meant to be a WRX wagon either - it is a tourer, a family wagon with a little sniff of sporting pretention. Not everyones cup of tea, but then again how boring would life be if we all wanted the same thing?
I guess that either Subaru marketing have screwed up somewhere, or the press just dont get it, as I have seen the Levorg in group tests against either more expensive models and / or wagons from the next bracket up (Passat / Mondeo etc).
End of rant...
ghosthtx said:
I don’t get the negativity towards Subaru (especially modern ones) on Pistonheads? Why is that?
I have owned a Levorg for the last 15 months or so and found it comfortable, spacious, very stable and safe (especially in the winter) and at least spritely (though never outright sporty - only the 1.6 turbo model, here).
Imho it is more interesting than an Octavia, Golf or Focus wagon and comes with much more equipment as standard in the Sport Premium spec than any of the above.
The CVT isnt sporty, it is, however, very very smooth. Smoother than any regular slush box Ive driven and far smoother than any automated manual I have experienced.
The Levorg isnt meant to be a WRX wagon either - it is a tourer, a family wagon with a little sniff of sporting pretention. Not everyones cup of tea, but then again how boring would life be if we all wanted the same thing?
I guess that either Subaru marketing have screwed up somewhere, or the press just dont get it, as I have seen the Levorg in group tests against either more expensive models and / or wagons from the next bracket up (Passat / Mondeo etc).
End of rant...
It's not the car per se I have owned a Levorg for the last 15 months or so and found it comfortable, spacious, very stable and safe (especially in the winter) and at least spritely (though never outright sporty - only the 1.6 turbo model, here).
Imho it is more interesting than an Octavia, Golf or Focus wagon and comes with much more equipment as standard in the Sport Premium spec than any of the above.
The CVT isnt sporty, it is, however, very very smooth. Smoother than any regular slush box Ive driven and far smoother than any automated manual I have experienced.
The Levorg isnt meant to be a WRX wagon either - it is a tourer, a family wagon with a little sniff of sporting pretention. Not everyones cup of tea, but then again how boring would life be if we all wanted the same thing?
I guess that either Subaru marketing have screwed up somewhere, or the press just dont get it, as I have seen the Levorg in group tests against either more expensive models and / or wagons from the next bracket up (Passat / Mondeo etc).
End of rant...
Elatino1 said:
SidewaysSi said:
Elatino1 said:
SidewaysSi said:
Tell me what is so good about Subaru's current UK range and why they are superior to everything remotely comparable.
No insults, just give fact and reasoned opinion.
To answer a question with a question as some posters do..... what other AWD estate cars can be had brand new for £28k?No insults, just give fact and reasoned opinion.
Elatino1 said:
SidewaysSi said:
Think there are quite a few...And no one really pays list.
If there are quite few then name a few.I put list price as you said they were more like £30k list, that was your comment. So what other options are there brand new AWD, estate, fully optioned for £30k list?
I wouldn't buy one - personally I would much rather a BMW or even a Golf R.
Elatino1 said:
So you can't answer the question? thought not.
I can't be arsed to do your research for you. Golfs, BMWs, Volvos are all the same ballpark - have a look for yourself. Besides, as many pay monthly, list price has little bearing on cost.Not sure what point you are trying to make. I can't see the appeal of the Levorg and it would seem that plenty can't either.
Edited by SidewaysSi on Friday 6th December 21:25
No there are no AWD Golfs, BMWs,Volvos or whatever that you claim there are plenty of for that money. I was merely pointing out your incorrect assertion, no need to get shirty.
You don't seem to be able to admit when you are mistaken? If you read back you were essentially asking why would anyone buy one, I was just stating a very valid reason.
You don't seem to be able to admit when you are mistaken? If you read back you were essentially asking why would anyone buy one, I was just stating a very valid reason.
Elatino1 said:
No there are no AWD Golfs, BMWs,Volvos or whatever that you claim there are plenty of for that money. I was merely pointing out your incorrect assertion, no need to get shirty.
You don't seem to be able to admit when you are mistaken? If you read back you were essentially asking why would anyone buy one, I was just stating a very valid reason.
That wasn't getting shirty at all. You don't seem to be able to admit when you are mistaken? If you read back you were essentially asking why would anyone buy one, I was just stating a very valid reason.
Golf R, XDrive BMWs etc. are in the same ballpark. And you need to consider lease costs.
I still ask why anyone would buy one...well, the 500 people in the UK have a reason but it's hardly a big seller so most people don't know or much care about it do they?
In reality, Subaru currently sell some very average cars which is a shame but poor sales are the obvious result.
SidewaysSi said:
Read the above again.
I see you are one for moving the goalposts. Of course some (mainly German) manufacturers offer cheap lease deals hence the streets are littered with them. Japanese manufacturers generally don't do that.In regards to the list price I see you can't give a single example. Will leave it at that.
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