RE: Gordon Murray Group unveils five-year plan

[silentbrown]

JxJ Jr. said:

Who knows? It's all a bit confusing.

The corporate structure is very odd., there appear to be about a dozen companies under the GMG umbrella, but most of them are dormant.

However, GM Design has almost 90 employees according to the latest accounts, which is impressive.

[CoffeePls]

Re the T25

danp said:

I’d love one for bombing around town and the school run with the 2 children, amongst the SUV’s ;-)

I can see the appeal of that, definitely. The question is: if it was so good, so revolutionary, so market-leading, so game-changing - how come we don't see any today? Even if getting the T25 into production was too big an ask, even if it was only ever meant as a proof of concept - then how come we haven't seen elements of its philosophy, approach or features evident in other cars?

Or maybe we have and I've just missed them?

[Sway]

CoffeePls said:

Re the T25

danp said:

I’d love one for bombing around town and the school run with the 2 children, amongst the SUV’s ;-)

I can see the appeal of that, definitely. The question is: if it was so good, so revolutionary, so market-leading, so game-changing - how come we don't see any today? Even if getting the T25 into production was too big an ask, even if it was only ever meant as a proof of concept - then how come we haven't seen elements of its philosophy, approach or features evident in other cars?

Or maybe we have and I've just missed them?

He's tried to sell it as a 'broadly finished' product for someone else to pick up and sell. That's not often successful, even less so when it's been widely publicised already.

However, I believe that Apple (and possibly Yamaha? Struggling to recall) were indeed interested at the time, but then broader economic factors came into play and it got dropped.

[danp]

CoffeePls said:

Re the T25

danp said:

I’d love one for bombing around town and the school run with the 2 children, amongst the SUV’s ;-)

I can see the appeal of that, definitely. The question is: if it was so good, so revolutionary, so market-leading, so game-changing - how come we don't see any today? Even if getting the T25 into production was too big an ask, even if it was only ever meant as a proof of concept - then how come we haven't seen elements of its philosophy, approach or features evident in other cars?

Or maybe we have and I've just missed them?

Smart car is the closest I guess, if they had 3 seats I’d be interested.

Anyone remember the BMW Z13 from 1993? Quite a similar concept to the T.25 (if rather sleeker), more info and a fantastic video here:

https://www.motor1.com/news/226055/bmw-z13-concept...

[HTP99]

danp said:

CoffeePls said:

Re the T25

danp said:

I’d love one for bombing around town and the school run with the 2 children, amongst the SUV’s ;-)

I can see the appeal of that, definitely. The question is: if it was so good, so revolutionary, so market-leading, so game-changing - how come we don't see any today? Even if getting the T25 into production was too big an ask, even if it was only ever meant as a proof of concept - then how come we haven't seen elements of its philosophy, approach or features evident in other cars?

Or maybe we have and I've just missed them?

Smart car is the closest I guess, if they had 3 seats I’d be interested.

Anyone remember the BMW Z13 from 1993? Quite a similar concept to the T.25 (if rather sleeker), more info and a fantastic video here:

https://www.motor1.com/news/226055/bmw-z13-concept...

T25 had that stupid front hinged door where the whole of the front came up to enable entry.

[anonymous-user]

The problem in terms of manufacturing is that the Big Players are so far advanced of anything else, that "special techinques" and expecially ones they have to pay a royalty for, are irrelevant. They'll just work it out for themselves.

Watch this video on BMW's i3 production line, and you quickly realise that designing and devloping the car isself was well under half the problem!

BMW_i3_production_line_video


You don't have to watch it all ;-) but even just skimming through it, the tooling and production engineering to make it all happen is totally mind boggling