RE: New 374hp BMW M240i xDrive previewed
Discussion
I've always been a huge BMW fan but been disappointed with most of the their recent new models. I think this looks fantastic though! I think it's easy to moan about it being auto or about the weight, but to still be offering a lovely straight 6 engine in a small(ish) package is a great thing. I think we could safely assume this will be the last one they ever make.
Like some people have said already, I'm just happy something like this will still be made for a few more years. Will it be as much fun as a new E46 M3? Probably not. But it ought to be a halfway decent imitation which will be easy enough to run for a whole, while also contributing to the general pool of these kinds of car for future years.
If it had come out like this in 2010, yeah, I'm sure a lot of us would just have shrugged and looked elsewhere. But it isn't 2010 anymore and, frankly, we have to take what we can get.
So yeah, I'd have one.
If it had come out like this in 2010, yeah, I'm sure a lot of us would just have shrugged and looked elsewhere. But it isn't 2010 anymore and, frankly, we have to take what we can get.
So yeah, I'd have one.
Just read Car magazine's first drive and from their description, it's basically a 4-series "compact" with eyes on the US market?
I know that the "compact" badge has a terrible reputation - but I wonder how much the 2 will end up cannibalising the sales of the 4? The 4 (3 coupe in old money) is now a really big car.
This gives you the same platform, in a more manageable size, at much less expense. Good news for buyers, maybe not so much for BMW.
I know that the "compact" badge has a terrible reputation - but I wonder how much the 2 will end up cannibalising the sales of the 4? The 4 (3 coupe in old money) is now a really big car.
This gives you the same platform, in a more manageable size, at much less expense. Good news for buyers, maybe not so much for BMW.
nickfrog said:
That would be great. But I tell you what, I am now unconvinced we will get a new manual M2 in the UK. That will be a tough decision considering how few M2 Comps manual they have sold...
What were the figures for DCT / Manual? I tried to find them (my Google skills are apparently weak...).To be fair it was a shared car and SWMBO was just fed up of heavy clutches etc (obviously I weep nightly regarding the loss of a manual car).
T1berious said:
What were the figures for DCT / Manual? I tried to find them (my Google skills are apparently weak...).
To be fair it was a shared car and SWMBO was just fed up of heavy clutches etc (obviously I weep nightly regarding the loss of a manual car).
From memory it started at around 25% manual in 16/17 to end up at around 5% of late on the M2C. To be fair it was a shared car and SWMBO was just fed up of heavy clutches etc (obviously I weep nightly regarding the loss of a manual car).
cerb4.5lee said:
Volvolover said:
x-drive
no thanks, it totally ruins the best bit about BMW's
I understand where you are coming from with that. However I do really like the switchable to only RWD xDrive system that BMW use on the current M5 and the incoming M3/M4 xDrive though. no thanks, it totally ruins the best bit about BMW's
I liked the last 2 coupé; I have hopes for the new one. However...
...width. I am concerned about the track being that bit bigger. Excess width makes:
- B roads more difficult to enjoy
- the car harder to place on corners
- cars harder to park (in our SUV-dominated*, 80s car size parking spaces)
I would give up an element of cornering speed to have a more wieldy car (and frankly, one that can squeeze past the other car in the garage - through a common 4m wide door...). Anything over 1850mm is getting rather bulky for me; less than 1800mm is ideal.
( * actually, most cars now - they are all getting a little broad of beam)
...width. I am concerned about the track being that bit bigger. Excess width makes:
- B roads more difficult to enjoy
- the car harder to place on corners
- cars harder to park (in our SUV-dominated*, 80s car size parking spaces)
I would give up an element of cornering speed to have a more wieldy car (and frankly, one that can squeeze past the other car in the garage - through a common 4m wide door...). Anything over 1850mm is getting rather bulky for me; less than 1800mm is ideal.
( * actually, most cars now - they are all getting a little broad of beam)
nickfrog said:
chelme said:
Vee12V said:
Chestrockwell said:
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As consumers, we’re very lucky this exists as there won’t be many ‘affordable’ straight 6 twin turbo BMW’s available in 5 years when this car is probably replaced! Jaguar are going to be all electric by 2025, this will be at the end of its life cycle with loads of discounts
Not really. We are far past peak BMW now. This will be heavier, number and duller again than its predecessors (and probably uglier too). I honestly don't care anymore. As consumers, we’re very lucky this exists as there won’t be many ‘affordable’ straight 6 twin turbo BMW’s available in 5 years when this car is probably replaced! Jaguar are going to be all electric by 2025, this will be at the end of its life cycle with loads of discounts
te. Full stop, new book please. I think you can have more fun on backroads with the upcomming GR86 toyota. Manual, proper handbrake and 1250kg.
At a big wide race track it’s nice to have a bigger car with more horse power. But how often are you there with youre streetcar. Better buy a racecar then.
I have a Yaris GR and Manual M2 in my garage. I drive the yaris GR most of the time. Why?
Because the car is smal nimble and weighs 1280kg has rally inspired 4wd system and a working handbrake. The car gives lots of fun and you can feel lightness in driving.
If you like driving you look at other things. I am a very big bmw lover but after the 1m coupe bmw got backwards. Bigger, wider, heavier wrong way around.
At toyota they understand what driving fun is. Toyota Yaris GR is the sweetspot! All BMW M are cruiseships in comparison!
At a big wide race track it’s nice to have a bigger car with more horse power. But how often are you there with youre streetcar. Better buy a racecar then.
I have a Yaris GR and Manual M2 in my garage. I drive the yaris GR most of the time. Why?
Because the car is smal nimble and weighs 1280kg has rally inspired 4wd system and a working handbrake. The car gives lots of fun and you can feel lightness in driving.
If you like driving you look at other things. I am a very big bmw lover but after the 1m coupe bmw got backwards. Bigger, wider, heavier wrong way around.
At toyota they understand what driving fun is. Toyota Yaris GR is the sweetspot! All BMW M are cruiseships in comparison!
Advevo said:
I think you can have more fun on backroads with the upcomming GR86 toyota. Manual, proper handbrake and 1250kg.
At a big wide race track it’s nice to have a bigger car with more horse power. But how often are you there with youre streetcar. Better buy a racecar then.
I have a Yaris GR and Manual M2 in my garage. I drive the yaris GR most of the time. Why?
Because the car is smal nimble and weighs 1280kg has rally inspired 4wd system and a working handbrake. The car gives lots of fun and you can feel lightness in driving.
If you like driving you look at other things. I am a very big bmw lover but after the 1m coupe bmw got backwards. Bigger, wider, heavier wrong way around.
At toyota they understand what driving fun is. Toyota Yaris GR is the sweetspot! All BMW M are cruiseships in comparison!
Do you routinely pull the handbrake while driving on the public road? At a big wide race track it’s nice to have a bigger car with more horse power. But how often are you there with youre streetcar. Better buy a racecar then.
I have a Yaris GR and Manual M2 in my garage. I drive the yaris GR most of the time. Why?
Because the car is smal nimble and weighs 1280kg has rally inspired 4wd system and a working handbrake. The car gives lots of fun and you can feel lightness in driving.
If you like driving you look at other things. I am a very big bmw lover but after the 1m coupe bmw got backwards. Bigger, wider, heavier wrong way around.
At toyota they understand what driving fun is. Toyota Yaris GR is the sweetspot! All BMW M are cruiseships in comparison!
Advevo said:
I think you can have more fun on backroads with the upcomming GR86 toyota. Manual, proper handbrake and 1250kg.
At a big wide race track it’s nice to have a bigger car with more horse power. But how often are you there with youre streetcar. Better buy a racecar then.
I have a Yaris GR and Manual M2 in my garage. I drive the yaris GR most of the time. Why?
Because the car is smal nimble and weighs 1280kg has rally inspired 4wd system and a working handbrake. The car gives lots of fun and you can feel lightness in driving.
GT86 haha, fun, until you can't shake off the diesel Renault on your ar*e.At a big wide race track it’s nice to have a bigger car with more horse power. But how often are you there with youre streetcar. Better buy a racecar then.
I have a Yaris GR and Manual M2 in my garage. I drive the yaris GR most of the time. Why?
Because the car is smal nimble and weighs 1280kg has rally inspired 4wd system and a working handbrake. The car gives lots of fun and you can feel lightness in driving.
Why don't you daily the manual M2? Good question. I'm guessing you're mad if you're picking the Yaris. Get an auto M2 next time, much nicer to daily drive.
You can also feel lightness in crosswinds, doesn't make it better.
Edited by Dombilano on Monday 17th May 21:24
Edited by Dombilano on Monday 17th May 21:27
Fiesta1.0L said:
How many left have a good breakdown of manual vs auto:https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=bmw+m2
2:1 Auto:manual in the early days towards 10:1 for the M2C.
Had an early M2 auto bought because the wife was the main driver and traffic in a manual is a pain.
Why buy an an M2 at all if most of your driving is in traffic? I think I’d go for something more comfy with a nicer interior for the money, to keep me interested in a traffic jam. But, if you want an M2 you want one I suppose, no matter how you intend to use it. Nothing wrong with that.2:1 Auto:manual in the early days towards 10:1 for the M2C.
Had an early M2 auto bought because the wife was the main driver and traffic in a manual is a pain.
Vocht said:
Here's a spy shot of it. I think it looks good!
Muscular aesthetic, no silly grille, have brought back the straight 6 rather than retaining the 4pot as in the 235i. I'm a fan, especially when you consider some of the other monstrosities BMW appear to be releasing currently.
The previous one had a straight 6 no? Muscular aesthetic, no silly grille, have brought back the straight 6 rather than retaining the 4pot as in the 235i. I'm a fan, especially when you consider some of the other monstrosities BMW appear to be releasing currently.
BMWs range is highly confusing where they appear to have a saloon version of the FWD transverse 1 series, which I think is what you are referring to, and also this a longitudinal RWD coupe, which is the replacement for the M240i.
TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
Toltec said:
I got excited for a moment there, but the existing model is already pushing it on length versus my wife's e46 compact so this will be a no.
So an E46 compact is too big?? I'm not sure a saloon car shorter than that would be remotely usable.....? Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff