RE: New Honda Civic Type R first look | PH Footnote
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The rear lights do look a bit Kia Stinger, but overall I quite like it. The last version was a bit too much for me, with a lot going on. This looks a cleaner design and I don't mind the rear wing. The small supports let you see the overall lines of the car so I feel it blends in more than the previous chunky versions that had a lot of additional 'aero' bits going on.
It reminds me a bit of the old Accord Type R. Generally clean and understated lines. Just the big wing. I wonder how the dimensions compare.
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As previous comments, does seem a bit strange if only a four seater, particularly if a larger car now and seems it would happily accommodate five.
It reminds me a bit of the old Accord Type R. Generally clean and understated lines. Just the big wing. I wonder how the dimensions compare.
![](https://thumbsnap.com/sc/fmMehJxk.jpg)
As previous comments, does seem a bit strange if only a four seater, particularly if a larger car now and seems it would happily accommodate five.
Cannot see why people would be underwhelmed. It is less origami and more mature and purposeful. The outgoing Type R had all sorts of fake intakes and other silliness. Much better than the Imprezza and less grilly than zee germans. Though perhaps not as sexy as the Giulia. Even the interior looks better.
TGCOTF-dewey said:
fantheman80 said:
TGCOTF-dewey said:
What's a twin disc brembo?
ventilated rotorsEK9_CTR said:
Gets better the more I look at it. Love those rear arches.
I think I fall into the minority of FK8 owners that like the looks of both the FL5 and FK8. Two different design languages that I'm happy to appreciate.
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Good shot & post there. I think I fall into the minority of FK8 owners that like the looks of both the FL5 and FK8. Two different design languages that I'm happy to appreciate.
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Looks like this could be akin to the M2 where the rear arches look wide, but in the flesh look almost like a caricature they’re so wide.
Hopefully this will make it stand out more as it does look quite reserved in comparison to the comedy FK8 - not necessarily a bad thing given the price point & that most people who can afford something like this don’t want it to look too daft, & I say that as someone looking for a FK8!
partyy_pop123 said:
Three pipes in the centre works on a supercar (think 458 Italia) on a hot hatch, specifically a Honda, I`m not entirely convinced. Think I`d have a MK8 GTI over this, looks classier, has the heritage and would be a more attractive proposition on a day to day basis.
I agree. Never been a fan of the Three pipe set-up however, i understand the reasons behind it. I do prefer this FL5 shape to the FK2 and FK8 but i prefer the twin exhaust pipes set-up of the FK2.
![](https://thumbsnap.com/sc/Kh2dvCkW.jpg)
Koolkat969 said:
partyy_pop123 said:
Three pipes in the centre works on a supercar (think 458 Italia) on a hot hatch, specifically a Honda, I`m not entirely convinced. Think I`d have a MK8 GTI over this, looks classier, has the heritage and would be a more attractive proposition on a day to day basis.
I agree. Never been a fan of the Three pipe set-up however, i understand the reasons behind it. I do prefer this FL5 shape to the FK2 and FK8 but i prefer the twin exhaust pipes set-up of the FK2.
![](https://thumbsnap.com/sc/Kh2dvCkW.jpg)
Portofino said:
Koolkat969 said:
partyy_pop123 said:
Three pipes in the centre works on a supercar (think 458 Italia) on a hot hatch, specifically a Honda, I`m not entirely convinced. Think I`d have a MK8 GTI over this, looks classier, has the heritage and would be a more attractive proposition on a day to day basis.
I agree. Never been a fan of the Three pipe set-up however, i understand the reasons behind it. I do prefer this FL5 shape to the FK2 and FK8 but i prefer the twin exhaust pipes set-up of the FK2.
![](https://thumbsnap.com/sc/Kh2dvCkW.jpg)
Motormatt said:
Looks great, I much prefer this long and low look to the old 'cab forward' design.
Wonderful to see Honda have stuck with actual buttons for all the main controls, and not been tempted to go down the haptic route VAG have followed.
Honda have made a formal commitment to never do that. Still an engineering company to their fingertips. Wonderful to see Honda have stuck with actual buttons for all the main controls, and not been tempted to go down the haptic route VAG have followed.
Here's a future prediction. Dedicated controls will be the hallmark of upmarket, premium cars. Touchscreens and little else will dominate the affordable end. The cat is firmly out of the bag that relegating switchgear to screens is all about the bottom line.
acme said:
I posted earlier when this was asked that the final FK8’s were just over 36 in GT spec, so assuming they do a similar GT version I’d say 39,995 - but I did note this was partly in hope to avoid the 40k luxury tax.
Sadly I think you could be right.
As someone else has said they think 45 could be too high - perhaps 39,995 non GT & 42,995 GT
Whatever it’s going to be more than the FK8 & most likely +10% more too.
Makes the 33,500 I was quoted for a FK8 GT in 2019 almost seem a bargain!
I wouldn’t be surprised if they drop the non GT spec this time? Did they sell many non GT FK8’s? I may be searching wrong but I can’t see any for sale on AT. Sadly I think you could be right.
As someone else has said they think 45 could be too high - perhaps 39,995 non GT & 42,995 GT
Whatever it’s going to be more than the FK8 & most likely +10% more too.
Makes the 33,500 I was quoted for a FK8 GT in 2019 almost seem a bargain!
Edited by acme on Tuesday 26th July 14:15
I hope it does come in at under £40k but the entry level Civic has just been released which starts at £30k so I can’t see it.
Edit- I just specced a Civic ‘Advance’ with a few options and it’s over £36k.
Edited by nick1871 on Tuesday 26th July 17:14
Edited by nick1871 on Tuesday 26th July 17:14
Sulphur Man said:
Motormatt said:
Looks great, I much prefer this long and low look to the old 'cab forward' design.
Wonderful to see Honda have stuck with actual buttons for all the main controls, and not been tempted to go down the haptic route VAG have followed.
Honda have made a formal commitment to never do that. Still an engineering company to their fingertips. Wonderful to see Honda have stuck with actual buttons for all the main controls, and not been tempted to go down the haptic route VAG have followed.
Here's a future prediction. Dedicated controls will be the hallmark of upmarket, premium cars. Touchscreens and little else will dominate the affordable end. The cat is firmly out of the bag that relegating switchgear to screens is all about the bottom line.
nick1871 said:
I wouldn’t be surprised if they drop the non GT spec this time? Did they sell many non GT FK8’s? I may be searching wrong but I can’t see any for sale on AT.
I hope it does come in at under £40k but the entry level Civic has just been released which starts at £30k so I can’t see it.
A very valid point. In the early days when I was looking there was the odd non GT but I’d agree I’ve not seen one for a while - from memory it had an odd spec like a camera but no parking sensors. I hope it does come in at under £40k but the entry level Civic has just been released which starts at £30k so I can’t see it.
Re the hybrid, I do wonder if it’s relatively expensive due to the technology, it’s a generator EV as I understand it as opposed to ICE with hybrid added.
Anyway, I hope both you and I are wrong and it is cheaper, here’s hoping!
Are Honda going to do a Toyota and have a limited production run ala GR Yaris / GR86?
Pricing is a massive factor, I really hope they can keep it under £40k but I’d be amazed if they do.
Looking forward to seeing one in the metal that’s for sure. Was a big fan of the previous iterations and think this looks a lot more ‘grown up’. Not saying it’s a bad thing though.
Pricing is a massive factor, I really hope they can keep it under £40k but I’d be amazed if they do.
Looking forward to seeing one in the metal that’s for sure. Was a big fan of the previous iterations and think this looks a lot more ‘grown up’. Not saying it’s a bad thing though.
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