RE: Range Rover TDV8 (L322) | PH Heroes
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Coming up to 7 years owning my L322 TDV8 - 2009 Digital Dash model. As I've said on previous forums, here, before, I could have easily put a match to it when i first got it !!
I think buying the car back in 2016 when it was 7 years old and 60k on the clock was probably the best time for the previous owner to shift it as what follows was, almost immediately ....New Alternator, battery, EGR, Turbo hoses and some steering wheel widget ( airbag light on)...and fuel sender unit. But for the last 3-4 years, apart from yet another set of turbo hoses, a new battery and the fuel gauge giving some wrong readings...Its been fine!
Just done a trip to Norfolk and back from Sussex...and on a good run, like that, I get nearly 29 MPG. I have had mid-30's to Cornwall, before..
Great for camping once a year...and also transporting chest of drawers and logs and tip runs.
And then; Cleaned up - It still has some presence and doesnt look out of place on any posh gravel drive and with 110k on the clock now, I wont be selling it now.
Not looking forward to when the turbos go ( Approx 3.5k - But NO body off! - unlike 320 Sport) - But if i sold it, id be knocked down on the selling price + also have to pay more for something else - So look at it you keep a bit of money back for the inevitable, like Clarksons one - which cost £4.5 k i read somewhere, to fix when his turbos blew up.
Stick a private plate on it...Go for one with lighter interior and also, like mine, one without a DPF!....And I've also added AT3 General Grabber tyres to it - which are great in the snow etc. + have being 55 vs Pirelli 50 depth, give it a better ride too (& cheaper & last longer!)
Also; Buy one which has had the work done and serviced EVERY year at a specialist...and low owners...and for £10-15k you will get a very nice one!
I think buying the car back in 2016 when it was 7 years old and 60k on the clock was probably the best time for the previous owner to shift it as what follows was, almost immediately ....New Alternator, battery, EGR, Turbo hoses and some steering wheel widget ( airbag light on)...and fuel sender unit. But for the last 3-4 years, apart from yet another set of turbo hoses, a new battery and the fuel gauge giving some wrong readings...Its been fine!
Just done a trip to Norfolk and back from Sussex...and on a good run, like that, I get nearly 29 MPG. I have had mid-30's to Cornwall, before..
Great for camping once a year...and also transporting chest of drawers and logs and tip runs.
And then; Cleaned up - It still has some presence and doesnt look out of place on any posh gravel drive and with 110k on the clock now, I wont be selling it now.
Not looking forward to when the turbos go ( Approx 3.5k - But NO body off! - unlike 320 Sport) - But if i sold it, id be knocked down on the selling price + also have to pay more for something else - So look at it you keep a bit of money back for the inevitable, like Clarksons one - which cost £4.5 k i read somewhere, to fix when his turbos blew up.
Stick a private plate on it...Go for one with lighter interior and also, like mine, one without a DPF!....And I've also added AT3 General Grabber tyres to it - which are great in the snow etc. + have being 55 vs Pirelli 50 depth, give it a better ride too (& cheaper & last longer!)
Also; Buy one which has had the work done and serviced EVERY year at a specialist...and low owners...and for £10-15k you will get a very nice one!
dukebox9reg said:
Snozzer said:
Remember seeing these in around 2002 when they first came out. Couldn't afford one a the time, but it created much want. Best car I ever owned in terms or practically, much better than the 2 460's that replaced it, which had a smaller boot and the rear seats didn't roll forward. Moved away from Range Rover after that, mainly due to the shocking dealers. The visibility and driving position is better in the 322 in my opinion. Did think about getting one to replace my second car, a Jimny (surprising practical as 2 seater) as a local runabout, but the cost to maintain it put me off. The Air suspension went on my 322 which cost £1k to sort out. Ended up buying a new Jogger, which is basically a van. The 322 is a lovely car though.
Really 2 460's which are only just out in the wild....ok thenProblem with my L322 is, it’s worth about £5-7k at best. It’s 2007 TDV8 3.6 115k miles. I’ve put about £4k into it having bought for like £10k 2 years ago!
I love it (and hate it sometimes) but what could I replace it with at that money?
Another 322? A VW Up?!
A 405 is a different price point and I prefer the looks of the 322.
So I’m basically stuck with it FOREVER no matter what it costs to repair.
My turbos were ‘done’ before I bought it but no records so who knows if they actually were.
If they go again, I’ll probably just pay it.
My wife makes fun of me all the time about it.
This sums it up perfectly in terms of niggles and stuff (never actually ‘broken down’;
My current broken list;
Rear wiper
Reversing camera
Sat nav (who cares)
Driver heated seat (cooling works)
I love it (and hate it sometimes) but what could I replace it with at that money?
Another 322? A VW Up?!
A 405 is a different price point and I prefer the looks of the 322.
So I’m basically stuck with it FOREVER no matter what it costs to repair.
My turbos were ‘done’ before I bought it but no records so who knows if they actually were.
If they go again, I’ll probably just pay it.
My wife makes fun of me all the time about it.
This sums it up perfectly in terms of niggles and stuff (never actually ‘broken down’;
My current broken list;
Rear wiper
Reversing camera
Sat nav (who cares)
Driver heated seat (cooling works)
Edited by p1stonhead on Thursday 23 February 13:01
I think these suffer from the same issue that so many cars do - while the resale price goes down, the repair costs largely stay the same. These were an expensive, complex car when they were new. It's similar (though not as extreme) as buying an old Ferrari. You just can't expect to run them on Fiesta money.
Turbobanana said:
For some of us, that's an entirely valid reason for running a mile from these.
I can't say I even consider who else owns a certain model of car as part of my purchasing choice. I buy cars I like, not cars that other people approve of.Calinours said:
Got it back 2 weeks later and within a week it started throwing error codes and going into limphome. After having to stop and key off half a dozen times just to get home one evening I’d had enough. All was within 3 months of ownership. It was (mercifully) taken back by the dealer for full refund.
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Did the codes ever get diagnosed?.
100% agree - peak RR.
I loved my 322 in 3.6 TDV8 form (green/tan/19"s/clear glass), nothing else goes down the road quite like a RR, which you'll only understand once you drive one.
As another poster mentioned above mine was also perfectly reliable, excluding a duff Bosch battery which lets face it could happen to any car.
For all those considering buying one - get one bought, service it, use it, enjoy it - life isn't a dress rehearsal!
Cheers,
Chris
I loved my 322 in 3.6 TDV8 form (green/tan/19"s/clear glass), nothing else goes down the road quite like a RR, which you'll only understand once you drive one.
As another poster mentioned above mine was also perfectly reliable, excluding a duff Bosch battery which lets face it could happen to any car.
For all those considering buying one - get one bought, service it, use it, enjoy it - life isn't a dress rehearsal!
Cheers,
Chris
I have had two. A 3.6 TDV8 which I bought for as cheap as possible (sub 5k) spend about a grand on then sold for about 5k after deciding I liked L322s so should get a better one. I currently have a 2011 4.4 TDV8 which is better in every way although I suspect a large proportion of the betterness is due to it being a less shagged example.
The chap I bought the later car from replaced it with an L405 and recently asked if I would sell it back to him. In fact the only real problem I have had is the majority (including mine) have stupid tinted windows which make reversing at night a challenge.
Ben
The chap I bought the later car from replaced it with an L405 and recently asked if I would sell it back to him. In fact the only real problem I have had is the majority (including mine) have stupid tinted windows which make reversing at night a challenge.
Ben
These threads always go the same way:
Owners group 1 - I had mine for years, it was superb, it wanted for very little, the stories of huge bills and unreliability are just nonsense.
Owners group 2 - I owned or have owned one, it was as unreliable as many say they are, and was financially ruinous.
From the outside, it seems that there is disagreement between owners, and all I can gather is that there is a fairly equal chance that you may get a great one or a terrible one - do you like a gamble?
I owned a FL2 from new, it was one of the many problems versions, however I would consider buying the same model again as I realise I could get one of the no problems versions. Must be a Land Rover thing....
Owners group 1 - I had mine for years, it was superb, it wanted for very little, the stories of huge bills and unreliability are just nonsense.
Owners group 2 - I owned or have owned one, it was as unreliable as many say they are, and was financially ruinous.
From the outside, it seems that there is disagreement between owners, and all I can gather is that there is a fairly equal chance that you may get a great one or a terrible one - do you like a gamble?
I owned a FL2 from new, it was one of the many problems versions, however I would consider buying the same model again as I realise I could get one of the no problems versions. Must be a Land Rover thing....
I’ve had two L322 Range Rovers, a 3.6 TDV8 I bought new back in 2007. Lovely car in Balmoral Blue with Ivory interior. Only drawback was the turbo lag picking up from moderate speed, once on the go or on the motorway it was lovely.
Replaced it with a Sport with the same engine which for some reason sounded fruitier, like a V8 muscle car at the exhaust (non modified, car was bought new from the main dealer). Then moved on to another L322 with the 5L Supercharged engine which was a peach.
Replaced that with a L405 with the same 5L Supercharged engine which handled much better (I drove my old L322 Supercharged which I sold to a friend when I owned the L405 and it really felt like a cruise ship compared to the L405!). Ended buying a new Sport SVR in 2021 which was lovely (I’m a fan of the Jag V8 Supercharged engine) which I part exchanged for a DBX707 in November last year. After 6 Range Rovers I fancied a change.
Replaced it with a Sport with the same engine which for some reason sounded fruitier, like a V8 muscle car at the exhaust (non modified, car was bought new from the main dealer). Then moved on to another L322 with the 5L Supercharged engine which was a peach.
Replaced that with a L405 with the same 5L Supercharged engine which handled much better (I drove my old L322 Supercharged which I sold to a friend when I owned the L405 and it really felt like a cruise ship compared to the L405!). Ended buying a new Sport SVR in 2021 which was lovely (I’m a fan of the Jag V8 Supercharged engine) which I part exchanged for a DBX707 in November last year. After 6 Range Rovers I fancied a change.
yellowbentines said:
These threads always go the same way:
Owners group 1 - I had mine for years, it was superb, it wanted for very little, the stories of huge bills and unreliability are just nonsense.
Owners group 2 - I owned or have owned one, it was as unreliable as many say they are, and was financially ruinous.
From the outside, it seems that there is disagreement between owners, and all I can gather is that there is a fairly equal chance that you may get a great one or a terrible one - do you like a gamble?
I owned a FL2 from new, it was one of the many problems versions, however I would consider buying the same model again as I realise I could get one of the no problems versions. Must be a Land Rover thing....
Range Rovers also attract:Owners group 1 - I had mine for years, it was superb, it wanted for very little, the stories of huge bills and unreliability are just nonsense.
Owners group 2 - I owned or have owned one, it was as unreliable as many say they are, and was financially ruinous.
From the outside, it seems that there is disagreement between owners, and all I can gather is that there is a fairly equal chance that you may get a great one or a terrible one - do you like a gamble?
I owned a FL2 from new, it was one of the many problems versions, however I would consider buying the same model again as I realise I could get one of the no problems versions. Must be a Land Rover thing....
Group 3 - I have never owned one, and never will, but will jump on every thread about them to tell everyone how abysmal they are.
In 2016 on a Layer Cake whim, I bought a 1998 P38 4.6 V8.
I loved that car, so much so I bought a 2006 L322 4.4 V8.
The front suspension airbags had to be done on the P38, never spent a penny aside from general maintenance on either otherwise. They both went in 2020 as part of a general reduction in cars owned:
I loved that car, so much so I bought a 2006 L322 4.4 V8.
The front suspension airbags had to be done on the P38, never spent a penny aside from general maintenance on either otherwise. They both went in 2020 as part of a general reduction in cars owned:
yellowbentines said:
These threads always go the same way:
Owners group 1 - I had mine for years, it was superb, it wanted for very little, the stories of huge bills and unreliability are just nonsense.
Owners group 2 - I owned or have owned one, it was as unreliable as many say they are, and was financially ruinous.
From the outside, it seems that there is disagreement between owners, and all I can gather is that there is a fairly equal chance that you may get a great one or a terrible one - do you like a gamble?
I owned a FL2 from new, it was one of the many problems versions, however I would consider buying the same model again as I realise I could get one of the no problems versions. Must be a Land Rover thing....
Are these Owners groups 1 & 2 related in any way to Drivers groups 1 & 2?Owners group 1 - I had mine for years, it was superb, it wanted for very little, the stories of huge bills and unreliability are just nonsense.
Owners group 2 - I owned or have owned one, it was as unreliable as many say they are, and was financially ruinous.
From the outside, it seems that there is disagreement between owners, and all I can gather is that there is a fairly equal chance that you may get a great one or a terrible one - do you like a gamble?
I owned a FL2 from new, it was one of the many problems versions, however I would consider buying the same model again as I realise I could get one of the no problems versions. Must be a Land Rover thing....
Drivers group 1 - the speed limit is the limit, just stick to it and you won't have any trouble.
Drivers group 2 - It is scandalous, they hide their vans. It is just a money raising exercise.
Is there any inter breeding, or cross fertilisation?
LJF_97 said:
Calinours said:
Got it back 2 weeks later and within a week it started throwing error codes and going into limphome. After having to stop and key off half a dozen times just to get home one evening I’d had enough. All was within 3 months of ownership. It was (mercifully) taken back by the dealer for full refund.
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Did the codes ever get diagnosed?.
As someone above said, I probably should have been more patient, with new turbos and EGR valves the big stuff was done, and my neighbour dealer seemed happy to take back the car and fix it, however at the time I was doing loads of miles and needed something reliable and useable, in the 15 weeks I owned it I think I only had use of it for about half of them.
Funny thing - it was such a lovely thing to drive. A better somehow less wallowey (if that’s a word?) ride than my non active ARB SDV6 405 due to it not having silly 22” wheels and the significantly higher mass of the older car. It felt like a tank with an armchair. It’s funny seeing Clarkson bombing around his farm in his, it’s the exact same year, engine and Vogue SE spec that mine was. I can understand why he likes it/keeps it and of course he isn’t going to be fussed about a few paltry grand replacing turbos every now and again.
As others have said - don’t buy one thinking you can run it on Fiesta money. The way to think about it is to get to a healthy 15-20k saved, then spend half that on the car, keeping the other half back as your maintenance pot for the inevitable repairs when they are needed.
sinbaddio said:
In 2016 on a Layer Cake whim, I bought a 1998 P38 4.6 V8.
I loved that car, so much so I bought a 2006 L322 4.4 V8.
The front suspension airbags had to be done on the P38, never spent a penny aside from general maintenance on either otherwise. They both went in 2020 as part of a general reduction in cars owned:
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I owned a P38 4.6 HSE too back in 1998, great car, I’m in the « Never had any problems with my Range Rover group »! I loved that car, so much so I bought a 2006 L322 4.4 V8.
The front suspension airbags had to be done on the P38, never spent a penny aside from general maintenance on either otherwise. They both went in 2020 as part of a general reduction in cars owned:
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|https://thumbsnap.com/Qr3eLXv2[/url]
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