RE: 'AU 1' made famous by Goldfinger goes on sale

[Saweep]

I suspect the market for a lot of these dateless plates will be vanishing if it hasn't gone already.

The very best will continue to do well, of course, but the everything bubble is over.

I'd love AU1 because I love the film...this will be bought by a bullion dealer or jeweller though, surely?

Six figures it a lot for a whimsy.

[pingu393]

Saweep said:

I suspect the market for a lot of these dateless plates will be vanishing if it hasn't gone already.

The very best will continue to do well, of course, but the everything bubble is over.

I'd love AU1 because I love the film...this will be bought by a bullion dealer or jeweller though, surely?

Six figures it a lot for a whimsy.

It would be an excellent purchase for any company that makes more than this in profit per year, and can off-set the expense and the VAT.

[Square Leg]

Terminator X said:

tr3a said:

Terminator X said:

Perhaps if you'd worked harder at school ...

I did quite well at school, thank you very much. So well in fact that I could afford to fill my garage with nice classic cars and never had to finance a new car in my life.

Perhaps if you'd done better at life, you wouldn't immediately presume those who advocate for a lower Gini coefficient are all lazy scroungers.

Due a parrot as all the other boring whingers on this thread.

TX.

No sense of humour, these newbies…

SL.

[Amanitin]

Numeric said:

OK so there is a big difference between a wealth tax and income tax.

I am not sure how your post addresses the point I made.
A given share in overall wealth should come as condition of an equal share of overall personal taxes paid.
I don't care if it is income, wealth, death, birth, or some magic combination.

[Twinair]

Ha ha - what a thread full of whinging muppettry…!

1. metoo - I am TX, we are all TX…

The biggest ‘thing’ that’s made the ‘er, poor, poorer is the actions around Covid. Tories - abominable, Labour or anyone else would only have been ‘longer, harder, more & deeper’ economic damage

All brainless - self serving people, RANDOX anyone..?? You’d have to be a right HUNT to pour £££££ into them… wait a second…

I have 7 private numbers, all mine - all bought and paid for from salary after (horrific…!) income tax…

I say horrific - as most of the 6 figure sums are flushed straight down the crapper in HM Gov - waste

But hey, it’s my country & thems the rules…

If someone would like FAST CAR… I have it…

Regards

TA

[NicheMonkey]

Pickle_Party_247 said:

Do grow up. Signing off all your posts does display a certain level of arrogance so this sentiment is hardly surprising.

Yes it is arrogant or maybe he's confused "posting" with a letter where signing it is normal.

[Saweep]

pingu393 said:

Saweep said:

I suspect the market for a lot of these dateless plates will be vanishing if it hasn't gone already.

The very best will continue to do well, of course, but the everything bubble is over.

I'd love AU1 because I love the film...this will be bought by a bullion dealer or jeweller though, surely?

Six figures it a lot for a whimsy.

It would be an excellent purchase for any company that makes more than this in profit per year, and can off-set the expense and the VAT.

People keep saying there is going to be VAT on this plate.

Have I missed something...how do we know that for sure?

[CRA1G]

Saweep said:

People keep saying there is going to be VAT on this plate.

Have I missed something...how do we know that for sure?

I sure there will be no VAT on the number just as there's no VAT on any original issue numbers.

[howardhughes]

AU 1 - Indeed, a great numberplate. I was fortunate to find my birth year and initials.

[Saweep]

CRA1G said:

Saweep said:

People keep saying there is going to be VAT on this plate.

Have I missed something...how do we know that for sure?

I sure there will be no VAT on the number just as there's no VAT on any original issue numbers.

Depends who owns it currently I think.

I bought a dateless last week that had VAT on it as it was owned by a Vat registered company.

[CRA1G]

Saweep said:

Depends who owns it currently I think.

I bought a dateless last week that had VAT on it as it was owned by a Vat registered company.

I believe they fall into the 'margin' scheme the same as a used car or antique dealer,so VAT it due on the dealers profit only.

[redroadster]

It's cheaper to risk fine of £1000 and make up your own plate hardly any traffic police around to check .

[Numeric]

Amanitin said:

Numeric said:

OK so there is a big difference between a wealth tax and income tax.

I am not sure how your post addresses the point I made.
A given share in overall wealth should come as condition of an equal share of overall personal taxes paid.
I don't care if it is income, wealth, death, birth, or some magic combination.

With apologies, I didn't make my point well (no journalist) and also with apologies to those who wish I'd leave this alone, I promise I will.

My clumsy point was that the assumption that the 'rich' don't pay enough is possibly (I emphasize possibly) that, an assumption. I don't have stats on personal wealth but in income tax terms they could be said to overpay. The top 1% take 12.5% of the income but pay 29% of the tax, the top 10% earn 33% of the income and pay 60% of the tax. It would have helped if I'd put the really relevant bit in my earlier post! Assuming they don't avoid the tax, clearly 40% of their wealth being taken in death duties will also be an apportionment commensurate with that wealth which is what I think you are saying is fair. To avoid accusations of bias I'm a very, very, long way from either of those brackets.

[Muddle238]

srob said:

Jon_S_Rally said:

Imagine getting cross about the price of a number plate. What a world we live in.

I don't get cross at the price, but I don't like plates being taken off old vehicles.

I bought a 1931 motorbike a couple of years ago. It has its original number plate which meant that I've been able to trace the full history of the bike back to the supplying dealer new. And I'm now in touch with a bloke who's dad used it daily in the 1950s. None of that would be possible had the plate been robbed off it.

Personally I'd like to see plates locked to vehicles for life and written off it the vehicle is scrapped.

What does locking a plate to a car achieve, though?

When my wife scrapped her first car, she wanted to keep the plate as it had sentimental value to her; she loved her first car. So, we retained the plate, which was just a generic prefix A123 ABC style plate, and it's adorned all of her cars since. The plate has zero financial value and more than a few people have questioned whether her current car really is 20-30 years old, which the answer of course is no but the plate holds a story. Under your rules, she wouldn't be able to do this.

[Robertb]

I sold a new VW Polo once to an elderly widow… she wanted the nondescript normal plate on her current car transferred to her new one as it was the last car that her husband had bought :-(

[srob]

Muddle238 said:

srob said:

Jon_S_Rally said:

Imagine getting cross about the price of a number plate. What a world we live in.

I don't get cross at the price, but I don't like plates being taken off old vehicles.

I bought a 1931 motorbike a couple of years ago. It has its original number plate which meant that I've been able to trace the full history of the bike back to the supplying dealer new. And I'm now in touch with a bloke who's dad used it daily in the 1950s. None of that would be possible had the plate been robbed off it.

Personally I'd like to see plates locked to vehicles for life and written off it the vehicle is scrapped.

What does locking a plate to a car achieve, though?

When my wife scrapped her first car, she wanted to keep the plate as it had sentimental value to her; she loved her first car. So, we retained the plate, which was just a generic prefix A123 ABC style plate, and it's adorned all of her cars since. The plate has zero financial value and more than a few people have questioned whether her current car really is 20-30 years old, which the answer of course is no but the plate holds a story. Under your rules, she wouldn't be able to do this.

Hardly my rules, you’re taking this a bit seriously

But yes personally I would like them locked. Granted your wife wouldn’t have been able to keep her plate but for every one of your wife there are thousands (if not more) of historical vehicles having their identity lost for anyone in the future who wants to trace the history.

As I’ve said before I’m interested in the history of vehicles so I think it’s safe to say we probably won’t agree on this if you’re not.

[SpadeBrigade]

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Perhaps if you'd worked harder at school ...

TX.
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Working hard doesn’t guarantees absolutely nothing. It helps sure.

[Hairymonster]

Harry H said:

And voting Labour is for those with an essential part of their brain missing.

At least the Torys had a slogan of levelling up. Even if they didn't mean it. Whereas every Labour policy seems to be about levelling down.

Let's face it we're all fked. Until we get someone else to truly vote for.

In the meantime if £300k is down the sofa type money then why not spank it on a fancy plate. History says it won't lose money.

The list of incompetent Tory prime ministers and cabinet ministers is long. Having a slogan for a policy you have in your manifesto does not make it happen - not sure if anyone's pointed that out to you or any of the Tory cabinet.

So, those with a complete brain will vote Tory - look where that's got us over the last 13 years! Oh Brexit! That worked well didn't it!

I have no issue with someone paying £300k for a plate - the tax suggestion for this was not mine.

[Muddle238]

srob said:

Hardly my rules, you’re taking this a bit seriously

But yes personally I would like them locked. Granted your wife wouldn’t have been able to keep her plate but for every one of your wife there are thousands (if not more) of historical vehicles having their identity lost for anyone in the future who wants to trace the history.

As I’ve said before I’m interested in the history of vehicles so I think it’s safe to say we probably won’t agree on this if you’re not.

Ah, but if a vehicle is going to be scrapped, then nobody will be tracing it's history as it won't exist

I do see your point though. I have a classic which "lost" it's original reg when the original owners assigned it to a modern car. I would love for it to have it's original reg back but it's unlikely to happen, although I know what it is and roughly where in the country it resides.

[humphra]

vindaloo79 said:

Mark-C said:

I do love a Number Plate thread

That’s numberwang!

Awesome reference! That was a great sketch show