Discussion
TimJMS said:
maddog993 said:
.... in which case I'll join the chorus of 'boo-hoo' as regards the crash but 'yee-hah' as regards the car it's happened to - nasty, ugly, cynical vehicle and- as has been touched upon earlier in the thread- an insult to the sports/racing car design philosophy of Ettore;
And equally as has been touched on earlier in the thread
I guess Ettore's sports/racing car design philosophy was placed on hold for the 3.2 tonne Royale? Perhaps while he was away on holiday his staff just banged a few out without telling him, eh?
ah, but the Royale was an ultimate 'Luxury' car allegedly designed and built for royalty(tho' no royalty actually bought one!)- which is why I make the distinction 'sports/racing car design philosophy of Ettore'- a philosophy which led to the type 35 as being arguably regarded as the most successful racing car of all time.The Veyron is at least in the running for the most expensive, hubristic, fastest, fattest, ugliest, heaviest, sports car of all time.
L100NYY said:
I have to say that I am absolutely appalled at the reactions of a couple of so-called Pistonheaders on here.
To say that you are glad to see a car, any car, involved in an rta is absolutely disgusting and makes me feel sick to think that people get off on things like this.
You are the same people (I use the word people in the loosest sense) that will log on to the wrecked exotics website and chuckle to yourself at somebody elses misfortune.
Disgusting.
To say that you are glad to see a car, any car, involved in an rta is absolutely disgusting and makes me feel sick to think that people get off on things like this.
You are the same people (I use the word people in the loosest sense) that will log on to the wrecked exotics website and chuckle to yourself at somebody elses misfortune.
Disgusting.
I think it is pure envy. The same attitude that makes people key Porsches.
Without the Veyron the petrolhead world would be a poorer place.
Maybe some may prefer the way other vehicles go about their business but it impossible to deny that the Veyron is a fantastic achievement and has huge and unique capabilities. I would love to Vmax one like Captain Slow did on Top Gear.
loneranger said:
L100NYY said:
I have to say that I am absolutely appalled at the reactions of a couple of so-called Pistonheaders on here.
To say that you are glad to see a car, any car, involved in an rta is absolutely disgusting and makes me feel sick to think that people get off on things like this.
You are the same people (I use the word people in the loosest sense) that will log on to the wrecked exotics website and chuckle to yourself at somebody elses misfortune.
Disgusting.
To say that you are glad to see a car, any car, involved in an rta is absolutely disgusting and makes me feel sick to think that people get off on things like this.
You are the same people (I use the word people in the loosest sense) that will log on to the wrecked exotics website and chuckle to yourself at somebody elses misfortune.
Disgusting.
I think it is pure envy. The same attitude that makes people key Porsches.
Without the Veyron the petrolhead world would be a poorer place.
Maybe some may prefer the way other vehicles go about their business but it impossible to deny that the Veyron is a fantastic achievement and has huge and unique capabilities. I would love to Vmax one like Captain Slow did on Top Gear.
Nothing to do with envy: I swear if I were given one I'd sell it.
McL F1, Ferrari F40, Jaguar XJ220, Koenigsegg CC, Lamborghini Murcielago all would draw a reverent eulogy. This just gets good riddance.
loneranger said:
I think it is pure envy. The same attitude that makes people key Porsches.
why is it that when anyone expresses an opinion about disliking a certain car you ALWAYS get this line trotted out? Really gets on my wick.
I don't like the Veyron. I don't like the many of Ferrari's offerings either. It's got bugger all to do with envy, it's personal tastes. I appreciate the workmanship and techincal excellence, but that doesn't mean I have to like it. Give me a Lambo - pretty much ANY lambo, over either of the aforementioned and I'll be like a kid in a sweetshop. Give me a Veyron, or an F40, I'd sell it and get what I do like.
Not happy at seeing it crashed, it's another mans P&J, so it's not a good thing in any shape or form.
loneranger said:
L100NYY said:
I have to say that I am absolutely appalled at the reactions of a couple of so-called Pistonheaders on here.
To say that you are glad to see a car, any car, involved in an rta is absolutely disgusting and makes me feel sick to think that people get off on things like this.
You are the same people (I use the word people in the loosest sense) that will log on to the wrecked exotics website and chuckle to yourself at somebody elses misfortune.
Disgusting.
To say that you are glad to see a car, any car, involved in an rta is absolutely disgusting and makes me feel sick to think that people get off on things like this.
You are the same people (I use the word people in the loosest sense) that will log on to the wrecked exotics website and chuckle to yourself at somebody elses misfortune.
Disgusting.
I think it is pure envy. The same attitude that makes people key Porsches.
Without the Veyron the petrolhead world would be a poorer place.
Maybe some may prefer the way other vehicles go about their business but it impossible to deny that the Veyron is a fantastic achievement and has huge and unique capabilities. I would love to Vmax one like Captain Slow did on Top Gear.
Envy doesn't come into it - it's more what the car is about- which is certainly not the fundamentals of a REAL driving machine (witness Gordon Murray's critique)
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AlistairOz said:
Yay!!! Good to see an uber-kraut ego-trip penis extender get bent!
Sorry, but I have serious Bugatti issues. Megalomaniacal manoeuvring by VW executives wearing tight suits with too much aftershave has simply created a racing lorry, which is the antithesis of the light and nimble racing cars built by Ettore. It may be an automotive achievement, but it is not a Bugatti.
Sorry, but I have serious Bugatti issues. Megalomaniacal manoeuvring by VW executives wearing tight suits with too much aftershave has simply created a racing lorry, which is the antithesis of the light and nimble racing cars built by Ettore. It may be an automotive achievement, but it is not a Bugatti.
The Veyron isn't a lorry, it's the same size as a Ferrari 360 and weighs just a few kgs more than an Aston Martin DB9, so do you think that is that a lorry as well? So Bugatti Type 35's only weighed 750kg, by modern standards they aren't nimble and quite useless if you drove them on the roads, slow acceleration (only had between 90-125bhp), poor brakes. They would get in the way and slow you up. I know what I'd prefer thanks. Different era's different requirements, we can't all live in the past.
My attitude towards the Veyron is (to paraphrase Clarkson) a bit like the attitude you have towards a strict headmaster at school. I don't like it as a car, but I do respect it tremendously as an achievement.
Ironically, it's the Bugatti that's now the fastest lorry in the world.
I think the supercar world needs these open-chequebook exercises every few years. It's not what I'd do with an open chequebook, but there you go.
Ironically, it's the Bugatti that's now the fastest lorry in the world.
I think the supercar world needs these open-chequebook exercises every few years. It's not what I'd do with an open chequebook, but there you go.
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