New Nissan GTR without the masks

[PhantomPH]

Ravell said:

PhantomPH said:

You see, I think the front looks like it has melted (instead of the aggressive look of the proto)

That's to make it softer for drunk pedestrians. You know the whole Euro-NCrAP thing.

Damn you, drunk pedestrians!!!!! *shakes fist*

Mind you, I thought Death Race 2000 was a documentary.

[130R]

PhantomPH said:

I thought Death Race 2000 was a documentary.

That film is being remade with Jason Statham.

[thirsty]

Car looks great, and I am sure it will kick arse. However, it is just me, or does it look like a 350Z on steroids?

[zagato]

thirsty said:

Car looks great, and I am sure it will kick arse. However, it is just me, or does it look like a 350Z on steroids?

It is a 350Z on steroids

[collateral]

Ey Nissan, you forgot the clutch pedal!

Glad to see they haven't gone the German route of covering the whole engine in plastic though

[Mclovin]

I wish I lived and worked in Japan, the goods cars seem to be a bargain there and they have loads of tracks.

[mackie1]

Gazboy said:

I wouldn't be surprised if it's £75k. The R33 GTR was £50k in the mid ninties and the R34 was £54k a few years later, Nissan did sell every single one allocated too.

Doubt we will be seeing 1500bhp monsters as we did with the RB26 cars.

Although I'm sure some bright spark will cram an RB26 into one at some point

[zagato]

mackie1 said:

Gazboy said:

I wouldn't be surprised if it's £75k. The R33 GTR was £50k in the mid ninties and the R34 was £54k a few years later, Nissan did sell every single one allocated too.

Doubt we will be seeing 1500bhp monsters as we did with the RB26 cars.

Although I'm sure some bright spark will cram an RB26 into one at some point

Maybe in ten years time.

The first wave of owners will be too busy speccing them in silver, with tip, crested seats and the large plastic pack, to try and maintain residuals

[130R]

zagato said:

There's no iron block

How do you know?

[_daveR]

mackie1 said:

Gazboy said:

I wouldn't be surprised if it's £75k. The R33 GTR was £50k in the mid ninties and the R34 was £54k a few years later, Nissan did sell every single one allocated too.

Doubt we will be seeing 1500bhp monsters as we did with the RB26 cars.

Although I'm sure some bright spark will cram an RB26 into one at some point

WHY?!

The RB isn't some miracle engine. If anything the VQ (iirc?) is a better starting point anyway.

[mackie1]

_daveR said:

WHY?!

The RB isn't some miracle engine. If anything the VQ (iirc?) is a better starting point anyway.

I didn't say it was a good idea, I'm just saying that someone probably will as that engine does seem to have legendary status in some circles. I think going for bigger capacity can only be a good thing. Big power, small capacity turbo engines don't have ideal power delivery after all.

[collateral]

_daveR said:

The RB isn't some miracle engine. If anything the VQ (iirc?) is a better starting point anyway.

The mill is probably called something along the lines of VQ38TT

[JohnG1]

£40k for 530bhp. I doubt it. The Nissan pricing analysts will carry out a (adopts technocrat economist hat and apologises in advance) market segmentation exercise then perform hedonic analysis on the key decision variables (no, I'm not making this up). In plain English, they'll figure out that most pistonheads will not pay a premium price for a Nissan, but they will see that there are very few cars with 530bhp and that you are looking at a 911 GT2, 420 Scud, Murcielagio, Gallardo SL, some mercs and not a lot else. Given that they basically work out the price per bhp and then discount by a factor based upon the releative sex appeal of the brands. So Pork bhp costs more because it's Pork, whereas Nissan trades at a discount.

Removesd economist hat and waits. This sort of analysis does underpin car industry import prices - ask anyone from a motor industry pricing background.

[edb49]

I've put a call into the local Nissan place to register my interest. £75k is far too steep for this, I'd take GT3 if it was that pricey. £60k and they'd probably get my order...

[sodall2doo]

Sweet Jesus I suppose that this means that all the little ftards who are running around my town at 60 mph in their M3's at midnight are gonna be buying these in like 3 years time then ?

Edited by sodall2doo on Wednesday 17th October 17:19

[Godzilla]

I put my deposit down a few months ago with Middlehurst.

Best guesses from him are:

- 3.8V6 TT with about 480bhp
- Circa £55k UK price (bet that goes up!)
- September 2008 UK launch

If it is wet-sumped and 1750kg, I will not be keeping mine long; I'll stick with my 1400kg 600bhp Z06!
(Although it would really be more of a replacement for my 456GT because of its rear seats...)

My rant is here: http://www.auto-journals.com/blog/

[Silent1]

Imbargo? Embargo more like..

[Jderh]

I actually quite like the look of it, but why sell it under the Nissan badge when Nissan is launching Infinity in the UK soon?? It would be a good car to launch with.

[Bencolem]

I guess drag coefficiency (and a headline top speed?) are to blame but the more vertical front end of the prototype (particularly behind the front wheelarches / the front sidevents) was much more attractive. The 'softer' front end also now clashes with the still vertical rear end. Shame, much less excited about it now. I'm guessing at about the price of a base 911 for 911 turbo money. Problem is, I'd go for the base 911 if that's the case - particularly when servicing is taken into consideration (I'm guessing its going to be frequent, expensive hard to get and painful). Pure speculation on my behalf of course.

If they managed to do such a good job of disguising 309bhp in the 350Z I do wander what this will be like...

[flattotheboards]

i like it, and it looks like an absolute bargain.