RE: MINI John Cooper Works

[Chippers54]

I reckon when you look at this car on a PCP you will probably find the 'On The Road' price is not so much of an issue because of the strong residuals.

Having a quick look at the numbers the JCW will probably be obtainable on 36 month MINI Select agreement for approx £285 - £300 per month if you put in a 20% deposit.

I guess other cars people might consider might be the Golf GTI, Megane R26 and Focus ST based on the rough quotes on the same criteria they are going to be around the following

Golf GTI £297 per month
Renault Megane R26 £375 per month
Focus ST3 £320 per month

These are just rough quotes and I am sure people on here have achieved better but it sort of puts the price of the JCW in perspective.

[PhilLL]

Chippers54 said:

I reckon when you look at this car on a PCP you will probably find the 'On The Road' price is not so much of an issue because of the strong residuals.

Having a quick look at the numbers the JCW will probably be obtainable on 36 month MINI Select agreement for approx £285 - £300 per month if you put in a 20% deposit.

I guess other cars people might consider might be the Golf GTI, Megane R26 and Focus ST based on the rough quotes on the same criteria they are going to be around the following

Golf GTI £297 per month
Renault Megane R26 £375 per month
Focus ST3 £320 per month

These are just rough quotes and I am sure people on here have achieved better but it sort of puts the price of the JCW in perspective.

Pretty much what I was going to put. The residuals will be strong enough that the high purchase price will be largely immaterial

[adz740]

After reading through all the above comments i was going to say pretty much the same as the last 2 posts. After 2 years that extra money you've spent on the mini will be worth it because of the rock solid residuals. I've had 3 R53's (1 Standard and 2 Works') and ran them all for just over a year and managed to get out of the PCP without owing anything on them. I can't think of many other cars out there that you could do that in these days. The Clio's, Focus's, Civic's (the new one is just ugly IMO anyway) will lose a shed load of money, even though they're cheaper to buy in the first place so you'll actually end up worse off.

Edited by adz740 on Sunday 20th July 21:21

[cocojambo18]

Well people, I am picking my new JCW Mini up tomorrow and I'm looking forward to it. I have sold my 06 Audi RS4, mainly due to the fact that it was bombing in value due to tax+petrol+government and I have purchased one as a more economical option. Yes they are not cheap to purchase and once I put a few bits on it cost about £24k, however they do make financial sense from some angles...

Mini's hold their value very well (especially JCW)
You get 5 years FREE servicing
Tax band is low for a sports hatch - 165 co2
Reasonable petrol consumption

I have had a Mini Cooper S before and I purchased from new and sold it 18 months later only losing £1,500. So I feel comfortable buying another one now that the economy is looking a bit dodgey.

Responding to the Japanese car comments, I have also had an S2000 before and really liked it, but have to confess that jap interiors and exterior quality is no match for Porsche/Audi/BMW. Also the jap engines are no keeping up with the germans on the CO2 reduction side and BMW are leading the way.

It's all a matter of taste, I don't consider the mini a girlie car (especially not the JCW), it is just a good quality fun car, with quirks like loads of torque steer that make it really interesting to drive.

[okgo]

I can tell you now, having driven the new one today, its very quick for what it is, sounds very raspy and naughty from the outside too

And the servicing is 150 quid it isnt free

[cocojambo18]

Fair point. The TLC pack is 150 quid, which is a billy bargain compared to other servicing packaging.

[okgo]

cocojambo18 said:

Fair point. The TLC pack is 150 quid, which is a billy bargain compared to other servicing packaging.

Its a no brainer

[118118]

okgo said:

cocojambo18 said:

Fair point. The TLC pack is 150 quid, which is a billy bargain compared to other servicing packaging.

Its a no brainer

its as good as free

[cocojambo18]

It feels free! Especially as it all got wrapped up in to my finance deal!

Buying the JCW was a no brainer to me, especially as my RS4 cost me the following in the space of 7 months...

£7,000 in depreciation
£1,500 for 1 service
£800 for 4 tyres
God knows how much in petrol (16 mpg)

I also considered the Golf GTI and soon to be released Scirroco, but decided that the Mini was the most fun (on paper) and the best all round package. I have an estate car for the family, so I am just bombing about in the JCW for work e.t.c.

[fergy]

Getting the TLC pack for free is one of the things that I negotiated out of my dealer... one of the few things that can be negotiated on.

[okgo]

fergy said:

Getting the TLC pack for free is one of the things that I negotiated out of my dealer... one of the few things that can be negotiated on.

Tyre insurance, paint protection,TLC ect are common throw ins.

[cocojambo18]

I had run out of negotiating tokens as they gave me top whack for the RS4 (they match my private sale offer).

[Superjuiced]

I cant see how people are comparing the jcw to the likes of sts meganes and gtis. I have owned a cooper s and sold it after three months it was crap, instead i bought a t-sport corolla which is twice the car. The mini is tiny, impractical, has a bad ride, (which will be even worse in this jcw), overated not fast, and specced up could cost as much as a nissan 350z. Im sorry but in my opinion people are mugs who are paying a 10k premium when buying minis just to say with their limp wrists look at me im in a mini. Isnt this the same car that the engine is built not by bmw but subcontracted out to a Mexican division of GM? Incredible how a little marketing ploy has fooled millions into parting company with too much of their cash. £25k+ mini surely the second hand market must be more appealing where you could pick up something ten times the car

[okgo]

Superjuiced said:

I cant see how people are comparing the jcw to the likes of sts meganes and gtis. I have owned a cooper s and sold it after three months it was crap, instead i bought a t-sport corolla which is twice the car. The mini is tiny, impractical, has a bad ride, (which will be even worse in this jcw), overated not fast, and specced up could cost as much as a nissan 350z. Im sorry but in my opinion people are mugs who are paying a 10k premium when buying minis just to say with their limp wrists look at me im in a mini. Isnt this the same car that the engine is built not by bmw but subcontracted out to a Mexican division of GM? Incredible how a little marketing ploy has fooled millions into parting company with too much of their cash. £25k+ mini surely the second hand market must be more appealing where you could pick up something ten times the car

What a sad man indeed. As said above, if a car holds its value better than anything else it kind of doesn't matter if it costs a bit more.

I beg to differ, and say the JCW is a quick car. It is small hence the name ffs, people moan about how they have strayed from the original size, then other people like you moan its too small. Get a grip man.

The engines are very good I thought, they are not too bad on fuel, have enough pull ect.

They are expensive, but then they dont break, they feel well bolted together on the whole, and they have huge demand.

[118118]

okgo said:

Superjuiced said:

I cant see how people are comparing the jcw to the likes of sts meganes and gtis. I have owned a cooper s and sold it after three months it was crap, instead i bought a t-sport corolla which is twice the car. The mini is tiny, impractical, has a bad ride, (which will be even worse in this jcw), overated not fast, and specced up could cost as much as a nissan 350z. Im sorry but in my opinion people are mugs who are paying a 10k premium when buying minis just to say with their limp wrists look at me im in a mini. Isnt this the same car that the engine is built not by bmw but subcontracted out to a Mexican division of GM? Incredible how a little marketing ploy has fooled millions into parting company with too much of their cash. £25k+ mini surely the second hand market must be more appealing where you could pick up something ten times the car

What a sad man indeed. As said above, if a car holds its value better than anything else it kind of doesn't matter if it costs a bit more.

I beg to differ, and say the JCW is a quick car. It is small hence the name ffs, people moan about how they have strayed from the original size, then other people like you moan its too small. Get a grip man.

The engines are very good I thought, they are not too bad on fuel, have enough pull ect.

They are expensive, but then they dont break, they feel well bolted together on the whole, and they have huge demand.

+1

J

[fathomfive]

EDLT said:

Fantic SuperT said:

Can anyone understand the part that reads:
"There’s no doubt that the systems would work well keeping someone who’s idea of having fun in their JCW is taking their friends for lunch on the King’s Road out of a ditch, but for the rest of us they are simply frustrating."

Or is it simply bks?

Written by Troy Queef?
http://www.sniffpetrol.com/category/troy-queef/

Horrendous punctuation and the use of "who's" instead of "whose" is criminal for a piece produced by a journalist and which should have been proofed before upload.

It makes me wonder how some of these people actually get these jobs.

[okgo]

118118 said:

okgo said:

Superjuiced said:

I cant see how people are comparing the jcw to the likes of sts meganes and gtis. I have owned a cooper s and sold it after three months it was crap, instead i bought a t-sport corolla which is twice the car. The mini is tiny, impractical, has a bad ride, (which will be even worse in this jcw), overated not fast, and specced up could cost as much as a nissan 350z. Im sorry but in my opinion people are mugs who are paying a 10k premium when buying minis just to say with their limp wrists look at me im in a mini. Isnt this the same car that the engine is built not by bmw but subcontracted out to a Mexican division of GM? Incredible how a little marketing ploy has fooled millions into parting company with too much of their cash. £25k+ mini surely the second hand market must be more appealing where you could pick up something ten times the car

What a sad man indeed. As said above, if a car holds its value better than anything else it kind of doesn't matter if it costs a bit more.

I beg to differ, and say the JCW is a quick car. It is small hence the name ffs, people moan about how they have strayed from the original size, then other people like you moan its too small. Get a grip man.

The engines are very good I thought, they are not too bad on fuel, have enough pull ect.

They are expensive, but then they dont break, they feel well bolted together on the whole, and they have huge demand.

+1

J

I just drove another, there is no way that car can be classed as not fast. 3 up this thing felt very nippy.

[118118]

okgo said:

118118 said:

okgo said:

Superjuiced said:

I cant see how people are comparing the jcw to the likes of sts meganes and gtis. I have owned a cooper s and sold it after three months it was crap, instead i bought a t-sport corolla which is twice the car. The mini is tiny, impractical, has a bad ride, (which will be even worse in this jcw), overated not fast, and specced up could cost as much as a nissan 350z. Im sorry but in my opinion people are mugs who are paying a 10k premium when buying minis just to say with their limp wrists look at me im in a mini. Isnt this the same car that the engine is built not by bmw but subcontracted out to a Mexican division of GM? Incredible how a little marketing ploy has fooled millions into parting company with too much of their cash. £25k+ mini surely the second hand market must be more appealing where you could pick up something ten times the car

What a sad man indeed. As said above, if a car holds its value better than anything else it kind of doesn't matter if it costs a bit more.

I beg to differ, and say the JCW is a quick car. It is small hence the name ffs, people moan about how they have strayed from the original size, then other people like you moan its too small. Get a grip man.

The engines are very good I thought, they are not too bad on fuel, have enough pull ect.

They are expensive, but then they dont break, they feel well bolted together on the whole, and they have huge demand.

+1

J

I just drove another, there is no way that car can be classed as not fast. 3 up this thing felt very nippy.

+1

J

[cocojambo18]

Got to be honest, don't understand the culture of buying some awful Jap car, just on the basis that it is a quick car. There are Jap cars I like (but wouldn't buy), but they just don't tick all the boxes for me, particularly in terms of image and quality of the materials.

The "limp wristed" comment says it all to me, anyone that believes that a car defines your s*xual preferences is obviously retarded (unless we are talking about a Suzuki Vitara soft-top!). I am in an ideal position to comment, having just sold my RS4 (which is as "butch" as they come) to get a more economical Mini JCW and I feel more than comfortable with it.

All done on my soap box...

[SEFTON1275GT]

you'll still look like a gay in a bmw mini!