RE: Crush Justice? Fake Fezza gets it
Discussion
Nickellarse said:
JohnnyE said:
It could have been worse... 
That is hilarious. I love it. Just like the 355 this is a sideswipe at all super cars.Imagine driving that through Italy! Brilliant. How sarcarstic could you be!
How about adding a few Voda-phony / McLaren decals and seeing if you make it to the other side alive?!
Edited by Steamer on Wednesday 28th October 12:55
VxDuncan said:
If I see a 355 I instantly assume it's a fake until proven otherwise. REALLY devalued that model Ferrari in my eyes, and probably knocked a few k off used values.
If the owner's lost money then so be it - nothing like as much as been wiped off used 355 prices by these hunks of crap.
How can you not tell the difference even from a distant? One is a long sleek looking slender beautifully crafte vehicle, the other is a Ferrari, sorry MR2 lol, anyone who cant tell the difference between a real 355 and the abortion that is the MR2 355 needs there eyes checkedIf the owner's lost money then so be it - nothing like as much as been wiped off used 355 prices by these hunks of crap.
Seriously,
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As for 355s losing value over scrap replicas? I highly doubt it, if so Cobras would cost pittence to buy, I could even have a Carerra GT after that company made the Boxster abomination, after TR40 I could have an F40 cheap?
Some s
tty cobbled together replica wont affect the used price of a 355, worry when you can make MR2 replicas from 355s 
Zircon said:
Crushing the car is way harsh in my opinion - he should have been made to pull the Ferrari badges off in front of the cops, but not lose his car.
I hate these kits as an MR2 enthusiast - why would you do that to a car that looks nice anyway. Here is my Turbo - no kit - it doesn't need one.
I would park mine next to a fake Ferrari and laugh.
Worst bit of the fake Ferrari in this article is the 119bhp engine - the slowest engine put in the Mk2 MR2 - so pants they discontinued it after 1 year. At least my Turbo is not far off the 0-60 of a 355 at 5.5 seconds.
Just come back from Italy - the Italians are VERY passionate about Ferrari - bit of a national obsession........
Now that's a nice looking MR2 - and has performance to match.I hate these kits as an MR2 enthusiast - why would you do that to a car that looks nice anyway. Here is my Turbo - no kit - it doesn't need one.
I would park mine next to a fake Ferrari and laugh.
Worst bit of the fake Ferrari in this article is the 119bhp engine - the slowest engine put in the Mk2 MR2 - so pants they discontinued it after 1 year. At least my Turbo is not far off the 0-60 of a 355 at 5.5 seconds.
Just come back from Italy - the Italians are VERY passionate about Ferrari - bit of a national obsession........
Thing is, you always get idiots at traffic lights trying to mess around when you are in an exotic car, and if that car does only have the humble 119bhp engine, then a souped up Corsa would probably embarrass the a55 of it.
what is the point?
WorAl said:
pSyCoSiS said:
S3_Graham said:
pSyCoSiS said:
Serves them right for having a fake in the first place.
I mean, they're not cheap are they, those Ferrari replicas based on MR2s?
For that sort of money, you can actually buy a decent 996 Porsche 911 / M3 / M5 / Lotus / Jaguar / R34 Skyline, the list goes on
So why put up with a wanabe fake instead? You can tell by glancing at it that it's not the real deal, it just looks out of proportion.
I've never understood why people fork out so much for replicas. For AC Cobras (i.e. DAC cobra) or some of the old school classic cars, one can understand why, as they are pretty rare and expensive to find originals, but a 355 Ferrari, pointless.
I know my opinion might upset some readers, but that's just how I fell about it !
Really? last i looked GTR's were fetching huge money! I mean, they're not cheap are they, those Ferrari replicas based on MR2s?
For that sort of money, you can actually buy a decent 996 Porsche 911 / M3 / M5 / Lotus / Jaguar / R34 Skyline, the list goes on
So why put up with a wanabe fake instead? You can tell by glancing at it that it's not the real deal, it just looks out of proportion.
I've never understood why people fork out so much for replicas. For AC Cobras (i.e. DAC cobra) or some of the old school classic cars, one can understand why, as they are pretty rare and expensive to find originals, but a 355 Ferrari, pointless.
I know my opinion might upset some readers, but that's just how I fell about it !
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1155733.htm
Personally I'm not a big fan of these MR2 Ferraris, but I don't understand the irrational hatred to them that PHers show. Surely it should just be a case of each to his own.
Afterall no one has a go at all the AC Cobra replicas rubbling around or even all the Lotus 7 replicas out there, isn't a Caterham just a Lotus 7 replica, albeit done with the original plans, but a Westfield purposely looks a little bit different here and there for copyright reasons. No one has a go at the owners of them for driving fake Lotus 7s.
If the story is true we should feel sorry for the owner, his money and he can do what he likes, shame the Italians are overly sensitive about their most famous cars. I think we should embrace people doing things a little different to their cars, they are doing no harm and fair enough we may not like it but that's what is great about living in a country where we can do what we like to our cars.
Afterall no one has a go at all the AC Cobra replicas rubbling around or even all the Lotus 7 replicas out there, isn't a Caterham just a Lotus 7 replica, albeit done with the original plans, but a Westfield purposely looks a little bit different here and there for copyright reasons. No one has a go at the owners of them for driving fake Lotus 7s.
If the story is true we should feel sorry for the owner, his money and he can do what he likes, shame the Italians are overly sensitive about their most famous cars. I think we should embrace people doing things a little different to their cars, they are doing no harm and fair enough we may not like it but that's what is great about living in a country where we can do what we like to our cars.
Risotto said:
Ultimately cars like the 355 replica are just one end of the same (admittedly broad) spectrum as things like Lynx C-Types.
I'd be the first to admit that the price of a Lynx is fully justified when you consider the amount of work that goes into building one; but regardless of how grand a euphemism you dream up to describe these cars ('recreations', 'evocations', etc) the MR2-kit and the Lynx are both designed to look like something they're not. The extra money you pay for a Lynx means it drives like something it's not too - but it is not and never will be a Jaguar.
The MR2-kit attempts to ape a 355 for as little money as possible, hence why it doesn't particularly resemble a real one, but at what point does the sneering stop? That's a genuine question by the way. Is a Westfield acceptable? What about one of the Cobra replicas? Maybe a GT40 clone? A 911 made to look like a 2.7 RS?
Most sensible response so far.I'd be the first to admit that the price of a Lynx is fully justified when you consider the amount of work that goes into building one; but regardless of how grand a euphemism you dream up to describe these cars ('recreations', 'evocations', etc) the MR2-kit and the Lynx are both designed to look like something they're not. The extra money you pay for a Lynx means it drives like something it's not too - but it is not and never will be a Jaguar.
The MR2-kit attempts to ape a 355 for as little money as possible, hence why it doesn't particularly resemble a real one, but at what point does the sneering stop? That's a genuine question by the way. Is a Westfield acceptable? What about one of the Cobra replicas? Maybe a GT40 clone? A 911 made to look like a 2.7 RS?
Edited by Risotto on Wednesday 28th October 12:14
So what if you don't like the 355 MR2's maybe at was some teenagers goal. loves Ferrari's find you can get a kit for an old 119bhp MR2 that he can insure when he turns 17, spends from 14 years old to 17 building it in the garage with dad and then finds all the supposed petrol heads want it crushed because its not real.
Or should every incorrectly badged car or replica should be banned and binned?
LOL I suspect this story was merely posted so as to provoke outrage at dodgy replicas...
So here's another nasty one which everyone's probably seen!
http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://1....
Why waste all that money partially-disguising something, when you can stick to the thing it's based on and retain taste, integrity, etc!
Any decent replicas- Westfield/Daxes/GTD40 to name a few- yes, they're still true to the cause. But there does seem to be a certain amount of tasteless imitation that goes on...
So here's another nasty one which everyone's probably seen!
http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://1....
Why waste all that money partially-disguising something, when you can stick to the thing it's based on and retain taste, integrity, etc!
Any decent replicas- Westfield/Daxes/GTD40 to name a few- yes, they're still true to the cause. But there does seem to be a certain amount of tasteless imitation that goes on...
Edited by Mark Wibble on Wednesday 28th October 13:26
Edited by Mark Wibble on Wednesday 28th October 13:27
rayb74 said:
Wow !
What a great car, its such a good fake ferrari its even sat on top of a recovery vehicle.
Genius
What a great car, its such a good fake ferrari its even sat on top of a recovery vehicle.
Genius
best one in this thread yet@ article, I think it's a form of power-abuse, they are just a bit pissed as they were actually fooled at first, and then used the law to "punish" the owner who actually didn't do anything wrong.
I went to Italy, and there was a stand on a market that embroidered (sp?) logos on hats & t-shirts, als Fezza logos. Cops didn't look twice at those stands.
Also, what do they do when they see a Fiat (Coupé?) with Ferrari badges?
Like I said, this is a bit "power trip" imho...
Zircon said:
^ But with the specific engine aside - it isn't a turd in the first place, which is why I don't get the whole fake Ferrari thing.
I imagine the choice of donor car is dictated by dimensions. It's not that the MR2 is an ugly car and people are trying to improve the looks, it's simply that it's the most suitable (or perhaps the least unsuitable) car to start from if you happen to want to make a 355 replica.I can't find a link, but there were some replica cars crushed in the past at the behest of the Italian authorities, I think they were a more elaborate attempt to make 60's Maserati and Ferrari replicas and pass them off as real though. Also agree that once you put fake badges on a car then it crosses the line from replica to fake. Rolls Royce successfully sued the owner of 'the beast' to get him to remove their grille and spirit of ecstasy from the front of his custom car.
matbat said:
Hehe, it's not even a Turbo:
DVLA Vehicle Details:
TOYOTA
MR2
2.0
2dr COUPE
PETROL
2.0 (1998 cc)
119 BHP
Transmission
MANUAL 5 SPEED
Body Colour
Red
Chassis No.
SW20-0092764
what site do you use to get all of that information? I've only ever used the autotrader one and the one on the Dvla site under tax.DVLA Vehicle Details:
TOYOTA
MR2
2.0
2dr COUPE
PETROL
2.0 (1998 cc)
119 BHP
Transmission
MANUAL 5 SPEED
Body Colour
Red
Chassis No.
SW20-0092764
CampDavid said:
pSyCoSiS said:
bales said:
pSyCoSiS said:
Serves them right for having a fake in the first place.
Seriously shut up, someone deserves to have their car crushed because other people don't like them?Christ I don't like lots of cars but you have to be a grade A knobend to say that they deserve to have it crushed...
I don't beleive it to be true anyway...or at least not how it is portrayed in the story.
This one deserves it
I personally don't see the point in crushing someones P&J for a whole bunch of reasons. First off it's not benifiting anyone. Atleast a fine would go to building schools or Silvio's court defence fund.
Secondly it's always unfair. Crushing a 911 is a much bigger punishment than say crushing a Nissan Bluebird.
It's a slippery slope. How soon before you get your car cube for speeding?
Case closed.
Steamer said:
Nickellarse said:
JohnnyE said:
It could have been worse...
That is hilarious. I love it. Just like the 355 this is a sideswipe at all super cars.Imagine driving that through Italy! Brilliant. How sarcarstic could you be!
How about adding a few Voda-phony / McLaren decals and seeing if you make it to the other side alive?!
Edited by Steamer on Wednesday 28th October 12:55
That's hilarious!!! Looks like the roof comes off too, probably so that you can sit upright to see the road! I really hope whoever made that had money to burn, and didnt make it as a serious replica! As for that T-nuc with the MR2. I'm glad it did get taken off the road. People with actual 355's would be horrified if that piece of S
t pulled up next to them. It's like people who put M3 badges on a standard 3 series! or AMG/SL55 on standard Sl500's........ YES You know who you are! You're liars and cheats!!!pSyCoSiS said:
CampDavid said:
pSyCoSiS said:
bales said:
pSyCoSiS said:
Serves them right for having a fake in the first place.
Seriously shut up, someone deserves to have their car crushed because other people don't like them?Christ I don't like lots of cars but you have to be a grade A knobend to say that they deserve to have it crushed...
I don't beleive it to be true anyway...or at least not how it is portrayed in the story.
This one deserves it
I personally don't see the point in crushing someones P&J for a whole bunch of reasons. First off it's not benifiting anyone. Atleast a fine would go to building schools or Silvio's court defence fund.
Secondly it's always unfair. Crushing a 911 is a much bigger punishment than say crushing a Nissan Bluebird.
It's a slippery slope. How soon before you get your car cube for speeding?
Case closed.
mcbook said:
2 Wycked said:
Maybe he means this? Although I'm unsure as to what that has to do with fake Ferraris.
Aye, maybe he does. Correct me if I'm wrong but that doesn't look a kosher Kia Pride. I reckon an envious Vauxhall Nova owner has had a few days in his garage with a fiberglass molding kit.
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