RE: SOTW Jaguar XJ12 HE
Discussion
grahamw48 said:
The original Series 1, but with the later HE engine and a manual box would be nice.
I think this is the least desirable series.
Below...the original and best IMO.
All Series Jags are very pretty cars and the Series 3 (particularly late ones) are beautiful inside too. I love all of them, but my favourite is definately the Series 2.I think this is the least desirable series.
Below...the original and best IMO.
It does seem cheap if it is a decent car but bargains are out there and this could be one of them. Jags are expensive things to put right though, so if you want a very good one it is generally cheaper to buy a good car in the first place than it is to restore one. Still, it would be a lovely car to roll round in for a while.
I believe interest in all older Jaguars will rise now since the cars they make new now appeal to a wider audience and this adds to the prestige of older cars, particularly to these 'definitive' Series Jags. I believe they will follow the Mk2 and become expensive in time.
NDT said:
any way to fit a manual box to the V12?
Yes, done it, adapter plate, 5 speed getrag from manual 3.6. need pedal box, clutch and shorten propshaft, car is transformed but dont tell everyone or they will all do, adds about 3-5mpg to fuel mileage but when it is being wound up;) close to perfection !!!Also get rid of centre boxes for the soundtrack effect.
Epic motor!
From what I hear, the Jag V12 is one of the best engines for car cookery (cooking stuff in the engine bay whilst you're driving along) too. You can get a decent sized slamon, wrapped in tin foil nestled in between the two banks of cylinders.
I always though the series 3 Xj looked best with the 'pepper pot' alloys:
From what I hear, the Jag V12 is one of the best engines for car cookery (cooking stuff in the engine bay whilst you're driving along) too. You can get a decent sized slamon, wrapped in tin foil nestled in between the two banks of cylinders.
I always though the series 3 Xj looked best with the 'pepper pot' alloys:
Tango13 said:
Top shedding!
I wonder if TWR or Lister have any of their Le Mans race engines/gearboxes left laying about?
700bhp would be the ultimate sleeper, until you had to stop or go round a corner that is...
Re the adaptor plate above ... Used to be an old boy down in Dorking that had a bit of a stock ....I wonder if TWR or Lister have any of their Le Mans race engines/gearboxes left laying about?
700bhp would be the ultimate sleeper, until you had to stop or go round a corner that is...There is something so wonderful about the old XJ, used to love checking the badge on the back as a kid to see whether it was a 3.4, 4.2 or the very rare 5.3.
There was one at the end of our road, as this one, a full fat 5.3 V12, strange as it was quite a basic looking one in flat (turd) brown paint, used to love seeing and hearing it, an older couple owned it, seemed strange as it was just a small semi they lived in. One night we heard sirens and went out to have a look and the lady had got in and then managed to park it about 100 yards away at high speed inthe from of the local Spar shop, dont know how she managed it to this day, anyone suggest what could cause that ? I am thinking jammed throttle cable, deliberate possibly, drunk ? anyway as kids we didnt care we just went to gawp as it was just about the most exciting thing that had ever happened, the shop was ruined and the owner let us grab some sweets and crisps, quite a party atmosphere !
If you fancy this because it is mega fast, then you may be dissapointed, a mate had one when we were about 19, again a 5.3 and it didnt seem much quicker than my 1.6 MK1 Golf GTI that I had at the time, it pulled away a bit with two huge vapour trails from the pipes, it usually then broke down and required endless tinkering, he had to watch the temp gauge like a hawk and was very reluctant to use it during the summer, the fuel gauge did drop alarmingly quickly, he reckoned 12 mpg. With the V12 Jags it always feels like its an engine with a car attached rather than the other way round, the whole car rocks when you blip it in neutral and I always felt aware of that huge lump out front, the heat they generate is incredible.
With regards to utting a Manual in it, I used to regularly drive a V12 E type that belonged to my father in law, that was a four speed manual and the change was fairly agricultural and the clutch used to make my leg go to jelly in traffic whilst it had a good go at cooking your lower half.
Still, wonderfull shed.
There was one at the end of our road, as this one, a full fat 5.3 V12, strange as it was quite a basic looking one in flat (turd) brown paint, used to love seeing and hearing it, an older couple owned it, seemed strange as it was just a small semi they lived in. One night we heard sirens and went out to have a look and the lady had got in and then managed to park it about 100 yards away at high speed inthe from of the local Spar shop, dont know how she managed it to this day, anyone suggest what could cause that ? I am thinking jammed throttle cable, deliberate possibly, drunk ? anyway as kids we didnt care we just went to gawp as it was just about the most exciting thing that had ever happened, the shop was ruined and the owner let us grab some sweets and crisps, quite a party atmosphere !
If you fancy this because it is mega fast, then you may be dissapointed, a mate had one when we were about 19, again a 5.3 and it didnt seem much quicker than my 1.6 MK1 Golf GTI that I had at the time, it pulled away a bit with two huge vapour trails from the pipes, it usually then broke down and required endless tinkering, he had to watch the temp gauge like a hawk and was very reluctant to use it during the summer, the fuel gauge did drop alarmingly quickly, he reckoned 12 mpg. With the V12 Jags it always feels like its an engine with a car attached rather than the other way round, the whole car rocks when you blip it in neutral and I always felt aware of that huge lump out front, the heat they generate is incredible.
With regards to utting a Manual in it, I used to regularly drive a V12 E type that belonged to my father in law, that was a four speed manual and the change was fairly agricultural and the clutch used to make my leg go to jelly in traffic whilst it had a good go at cooking your lower half.
Still, wonderfull shed.
the fuel economy is all about maintainance .... poorly maintained V12's do low teens mpg, well maintained ones mid 20's
Cooling system needs to be well looked after, and good condition hoses all over.
If the ride is iffy, then replace all the bushes - 56 of them i recall.
regular oil changes are appreciated also, as is keeping an eye on the air filters, or just fit some growlers.
Larini used to make a fantastic exhaust for these that they called the "gentlemans performance" model.
Cooling system needs to be well looked after, and good condition hoses all over.
If the ride is iffy, then replace all the bushes - 56 of them i recall.
regular oil changes are appreciated also, as is keeping an eye on the air filters, or just fit some growlers.
Larini used to make a fantastic exhaust for these that they called the "gentlemans performance" model.
my shed cost £ 300
complicated
old jags are great value at the present........
with ebay etc its never been cheaper to maintain a jag
ps the car only overheats if the radiator is allowed to clog and the distributor
is prone to the advance and retard seizing - both zero cost maintainence for
reasonable mechanically minded piston heads...........
complicated
old jags are great value at the present........
with ebay etc its never been cheaper to maintain a jag
ps the car only overheats if the radiator is allowed to clog and the distributor
is prone to the advance and retard seizing - both zero cost maintainence for
reasonable mechanically minded piston heads...........
Edited by gr88 on Friday 4th March 12:35
When I was an uni there was a scruffy local pool hall tucked away down a side street which permanently had a rather large bouncer positioned outside, the only people I ever saw enter or leave the establishment all looked like rather interesting characters.
One of them was an ageing skin head, who had an identical Jag and a 'driver' who matched the size of the bouncer. It was almost too perfect a cliche to be true.
One of them was an ageing skin head, who had an identical Jag and a 'driver' who matched the size of the bouncer. It was almost too perfect a cliche to be true.
TVR1 said:
Just spoke to the owner. Already been sold. Disaster!
Wouldn't mind betting we'll be seeing that again for sale soon. Wont be any where near a grand though...At that price, mileage and history there was nothing to think about.
Phone up, Pay, get collected & delivered.
www.shiply.com is your friend.
Dr G said:
bakerjuk said:
SOTW: Jaguar XJ12 HE
They don't make 'em like this anymore...
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YEAH ! For a reason !
I just went through four pages and was surprised nobody had said that earlier They don't make 'em like this anymore...
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YEAH ! For a reason !
Lovely and terrifying but more of the latter!
The series 3 XJ was where quality started to come back up again from the horrors of Leyland before the early XJ40 kicked the reliability into the weeds again. Its sales are one of the reasons Jaguar could buy itself out of Leyland in 1984. Even so, the series 3 was available new until 1992, for some three years under Ford.
A lot of people still think it got killed off too early. Development mules were tested with the AJ6 engine, which if built would have given it another lease of life.
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