Modifying to be illegal?
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Oilchange said:
Could.
A great word that. It 'could' have absolutely no affect whatsoever.
Likewise, a blob of mud could block it or break it.
It could have no effectA great word that. It 'could' have absolutely no affect whatsoever.
Likewise, a blob of mud could block it or break it.
Edited by Oilchange on Sunday 26th December 15:16
It could be worse
It could be improved
Sounds a bit random/out of government control, that does.
If a driver assist system fails to function and then the system throws up a warning that the driver ignores…
Surely the fundamental issue is that these systems are needed because the driver is not of sufficient ability to safely manage such a complex bit of kit and environments yet when the computer reaches the limits of its ability its solution is to hand over to the driver a situation which it categorically knows said driver can't handle because it's already decided the driver can't even cope with driving down the road. 
Which is the idiot? The pilot or the computer that deems the pilot to be incompetent but then hands off to them at the worst possible time when apparently the computer has decided they're now Sterling Moss.
Which is the idiot? The pilot or the computer that deems the pilot to be incompetent but then hands off to them at the worst possible time when apparently the computer has decided they're now Sterling Moss.
vaud said:
M4cruiser said:
... and it will never crash, just like an Airbus.
No-one has said they won't crash but there is a good indications that there will be fewer incidents per 1m miles for fully autonomous, with the rate improving as the % of cars that are autonomous increases.Car to car data, multiple cameras, ML, sensors, knowledge of speed limits etc.
It's not tomorrow but the direction is firmly set for incremental autonomy of the car.
Advanced drivers are nine(*) times safer than the average driver.
(*) Ok, not sure of the current figure, but when the System was first implemented and monitored it reduced incidents by a factor of 9.
M4cruiser said:
I'm willing to believe the autonomous car may be safer than the average driver. But that's because the poor drivers are bringing down the average.
Advanced drivers are nine(*) times safer than the average driver.
(*) Ok, not sure of the current figure, but when the System was first implemented and monitored it reduced incidents by a factor of 9.
So the less capable driver is less likely to die. Isn't Reverse Darwinism pivotal to a fair society? Advanced drivers are nine(*) times safer than the average driver.
(*) Ok, not sure of the current figure, but when the System was first implemented and monitored it reduced incidents by a factor of 9.
Mr Whippy said:
Excessive noise is already an offence isn’t it?
I’m sure context is everything but an obviously modified and too loud vehicle can be dealt with.
Half the issue here is enforcing existing laws/regs.
I recall my Dad’s generation cutting down springs, cutting up exhausts etc… all looked OE, but wasn’t.
In those days it was done to be cheap.
To enforce these new rules would be so costly, and on a used vehicle you’d argue it came like that.
The simple fix.
MOT check diesels exhaust better. Smoke density only was a joke.
Spot checks on exhausts to make sure they meet MOT. So many de-cat/mod exhausts swapped for MOT.
Those two alone would catch 90% of the people causing 90% of the issues with emissions or anti-social noise levels.
Already in the works.I’m sure context is everything but an obviously modified and too loud vehicle can be dealt with.
Half the issue here is enforcing existing laws/regs.
I recall my Dad’s generation cutting down springs, cutting up exhausts etc… all looked OE, but wasn’t.
In those days it was done to be cheap.
To enforce these new rules would be so costly, and on a used vehicle you’d argue it came like that.
The simple fix.
MOT check diesels exhaust better. Smoke density only was a joke.
Spot checks on exhausts to make sure they meet MOT. So many de-cat/mod exhausts swapped for MOT.
Those two alone would catch 90% of the people causing 90% of the issues with emissions or anti-social noise levels.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8818895/C...
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/governmen...
vaud said:
M4cruiser said:
... and it will never crash, just like an Airbus.
No-one has said they won't crash but there is a good indications that there will be fewer incidents per 1m miles for fully autonomous, with the rate improving as the % of cars that are autonomous increases.Car to car data, multiple cameras, ML, sensors, knowledge of speed limits etc.
It's not tomorrow but the direction is firmly set for incremental autonomy of the car.
DonkeyApple said:
Surely the fundamental issue is that these systems are needed because the driver is not of sufficient ability to safely manage such a complex bit of kit.
Many on PH openly admit that they just cannot grasp the concept that if the posted speed limit says 70mph then the big speedometer in front of them should not read anything above 70mph.It's just way too complicated for them, so a machine will easily be able to do far better..
vaud said:
NMNeil said:
The only way it will work will be total segregation of autonomous vs. non autonomous cars.
I suspect it will be "managed" through insurance premiums. Fewer autonomous features - higher premiums. Paint cycle lanes on a road and as far as many car drivers are concerned this translates to "You can park here, after all they're only cyclists"
Hence physical barriers to stop the cars.
Of course car drivers still ignore those because they seem to feel they are somehow special, and the roads were intended only for cars, nobody else.
https://road.cc/content/news/council-has-no-intent...
Oilchange said:
Absolute b
ks.
One always needs to know how fast one is going when in areas otherwise governed by the UK speed limit.
Some might say that's the Supermarket car park, not me. The Autobahn, race tracks, private roads etc. It's not all public highway you know.
And I bet yours doesn't!
Just planning 2022 track day calendar which starts on March 15th at Oulton. Should run 11 events this year. We don't use a speedo on track cars, or it may not even be fitted at all. Fastest GPS speed recorded is 152mph at Snetterton, although 156 has been seen when racing at Thruxton.ks.One always needs to know how fast one is going when in areas otherwise governed by the UK speed limit.
Some might say that's the Supermarket car park, not me. The Autobahn, race tracks, private roads etc. It's not all public highway you know.
And I bet yours doesn't!
But it's a strict 70mph maximum for me on the road, at least in the tow van which has a rigid 70 limiter. That's quite fast enough with the car trailer behind thanks
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