Winter Tyres

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anonymous-user

56 months

Saturday 19th January 2013
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CoolHands said:
whoops! Is that a 4wd? Not me btw, dailymail pic

Just goes to show that even if you have a 4x4 or have winter tyres fitted, if you don't drive to the conditions you'll end up in a ditch.

Bayleaf

2,339 posts

167 months

Saturday 19th January 2013
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blugnu said:
At the price you paid they will at the very least be excellent value smile
Cheers fella.

DrTre

12,955 posts

234 months

Saturday 19th January 2013
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CoolHands said:
whoops! Is that a 4wd? Not me btw, dailymail pic

Ah the new Audi Allroadwithabitofditchandsmatteringofhedge.
Yeah, they're 4WD

j4ckos mate

3,029 posts

172 months

Saturday 19th January 2013
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Ullevi said:
errrr, some people have to get out?

Are you really incapable of seeing that other people may live in different circumstances to you?
Nope, im aware of other peoples existance.

However if i did shift-work, or my job was such that i couldn't work remotely, or other people were particularly dependent on me.
And i lived in a region where i knew the local roads where bad or often tricky in the winter, id take it upon myself to get a capable 4 wheel drive vehilce not jump on here saying how life-changing winter tyres are.

Pablo16v

2,122 posts

199 months

Saturday 19th January 2013
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St John Smythe said:
CoolHands said:
whoops! Is that a 4wd? Not me btw, dailymail pic

Just goes to show that even if you have a 4x4 or have winter tyres fitted, if you don't drive to the conditions you'll end up in a ditch.
yes My A6 quattro was a bit of a handful in the snow on it's wide summer tyres. Plenty of traction when setting off but I had to be pretty careful through the twisty bits or going down steep hills.

blugnu

1,523 posts

243 months

Saturday 19th January 2013
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j4ckos mate said:
Nope, im aware of other peoples existance.

However if i did shift-work, or my job was such that i couldn't work remotely, or other people were particularly dependent on me.
And i lived in a region where i knew the local roads where bad or often tricky in the winter, id take it upon myself to get a capable 4 wheel drive vehilce not jump on here saying how life-changing winter tyres are.
If you have winter tyres you don't necessarily need 4 wheel drive to get going in snow.

And if you have need four wheel drive to get going in snow, you will need winter tyres to stop and go around corners in any meaningful sense.

I can't afford to run a 4wd, but luckily I don't need to, thanks to spending a mere £230 on the right tyres for my little hatchback.

FiF

44,443 posts

253 months

Saturday 19th January 2013
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j4ckos mate said:
Ullevi said:
errrr, some people have to get out?

Are you really incapable of seeing that other people may live in different circumstances to you?
Nope, im aware of other peoples existance.

However if i did shift-work, or my job was such that i couldn't work remotely, or other people were particularly dependent on me.
And i lived in a region where i knew the local roads where bad or often tricky in the winter, id take it upon myself to get a capable 4 wheel drive vehilce not jump on here saying how life-changing winter tyres are.
another one who confuses traction and grip.

Better traction with 4wd does not equal better grip for stopping and cornering.

Aaaaaaannnnddd here we go yet again...

otolith

56,860 posts

206 months

Saturday 19th January 2013
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Hmm.

Me - "I'm going fishing tomorrow"

Her - "Oh - I've got a sax quartet rehearsal"

Bums, maybe should have put winters on two of our cars hehe

If she can get the Z off our street, she should be fine. Might have a go in a bit.

0a

23,907 posts

196 months

Saturday 19th January 2013
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CoolHands said:
whoops! Is that a 4wd? Not me btw, dailymail pic

Hedge your bets with an Audi estate eh?

What winters for a W124 300E in Edinburgh please?

Balmoral

41,163 posts

250 months

Saturday 19th January 2013
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FiF said:
another one who confuses traction and grip.

Better traction with 4wd does not equal better grip for stopping and cornering.

Aaaaaaannnnddd here we go yet again...
Indeed.

A 4x4 will get you going, but you've still got to steer and stop and with no advantage over a regular vehicle, in the case of a big SUV type 4x4, you're even worse off in that respect, despite the 4WD, which other dynamics negate. I would rather be in a small FWD hatch or something.

Mermaid

21,492 posts

173 months

Saturday 19th January 2013
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Bayleaf said:
I really, really don't want to read all 311 pages.......but...

I've just had 4 x Goodyear Ultra grip 2 225x40x18 tyres fitted to my car - Volvo V50 2.0d. Had a quick look online at possible reviews, but not many good sites mention them!

£650.00 fitted incl nitrogen, balance etc...

Anyone know anything about them? By the way, before I get flamed, they were free to me through our work account...

Cheers.
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/accessories-tyres/358...


Moley RUFC

3,640 posts

191 months

Saturday 19th January 2013
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Bayleaf said:
I really, really don't want to read all 311 pages.......but...

I've just had 4 x Goodyear Ultra grip 2 225x40x18 tyres fitted to my car - Volvo V50 2.0d. Had a quick look online at possible reviews, but not many good sites mention them!

£650.00 fitted incl nitrogen, balance etc...

Anyone know anything about them? By the way, before I get flamed, they were free to me through our work account...

Cheers.
I think this picture gives you an idea of how good they are. Mine are the same size as yours and they performed well earlier gaining entry to the '4 x 4 only' car park at the top of Lickey Hill. Watched at least 5 cars on summers sliding back down the hill whereas the vRS just cruised up no problem. Guy in a Land Rover said he didn't realise the Octy vRS was four wheeled drive!?! Just pointed at the tyres.


0a

23,907 posts

196 months

Saturday 19th January 2013
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Chaps, feedback on the Continental Winter Contact TS830, get good reviews in Auto express anything else I should know?

Monkeylegend

26,684 posts

233 months

Saturday 19th January 2013
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0a said:
Chaps, feedback on the Continental Winter Contact TS830, get good reviews in Auto express anything else I should know?
Put a set on early December and have been excellent so far. Confidence inspiring in the wet and on icy roads and very good traction in the snow, and also surprisingly quiet.

They can feel a bit squidgy when you first try them, but if you drive to the conditions that soon disappears. Overall handling and steering feel is very good.

They don't like potholes, so be careful.Replacements are hard to get hold of now, only on back order I think. Took me 4 days to get one, so I am ordering a spare just in case I find another pothole.

Highly recommended. Might be worth reading the test in EVO mag if you haven't already.

Edited by Monkeylegend on Saturday 19th January 16:30

m444ttb

3,162 posts

231 months

Saturday 19th January 2013
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0a said:
Chaps, feedback on the Continental Winter Contact TS830, get good reviews in Auto express anything else I should know?
Assuming it was te same Conti winter tyre then it won Evo's winter tyre test (done at Conti's either test facility IIRC) this year and last.

WorAl

10,877 posts

190 months

Saturday 19th January 2013
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0a said:
Chaps, feedback on the Continental Winter Contact TS830, get good reviews in Auto express anything else I should know?
The 850's get better reviews http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2012-Winter-T...

Actually the 850 won all of the tests http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Continental/Wint...

Willy Nilly

12,511 posts

169 months

Saturday 19th January 2013
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My faithful steed needs new front tyres, and when I asked about them the PH winter tyre beards said Kleber Quadraxers would do. Can I just replace the front 2 or will I die in a ball of flames unless a 4 are the same?

0a

23,907 posts

196 months

Saturday 19th January 2013
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Getting the TS830s fitted on Tuesday (first time I can visit the tyre place) thanks for the advice. They were not that expensive so lets see how they perform (perfect weather for the next few months!).

Chicane-UK

3,861 posts

187 months

Saturday 19th January 2013
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Willy Nilly said:
My faithful steed needs new front tyres, and when I asked about them the PH winter tyre beards said Kleber Quadraxers would do. Can I just replace the front 2 or will I die in a ball of flames unless a 4 are the same?
They'll certainly help but you end up in the risky situation where (obviously) you have less grip on the back end - when cornering for example. So whilst you may be able to get the car dragging itself out of situations where it might struggle, if you're taking a corner on a slushy / icy patch you could end up with the back end breaking away from you as the grip levels are mismatched. I'm not sure I'd want to take that risk personally.

reggie82

1,371 posts

180 months

Saturday 19th January 2013
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Chicane-UK said:
Willy Nilly said:
My faithful steed needs new front tyres, and when I asked about them the PH winter tyre beards said Kleber Quadraxers would do. Can I just replace the front 2 or will I die in a ball of flames unless a 4 are the same?
They'll certainly help but you end up in the risky situation where (obviously) you have less grip on the back end - when cornering for example. So whilst you may be able to get the car dragging itself out of situations where it might struggle, if you're taking a corner on a slushy / icy patch you could end up with the back end breaking away from you as the grip levels are mismatched. I'm not sure I'd want to take that risk personally.
Also could cause the car to spin if you brake heavily.

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