Best smoker barges 1-5 large [Vol 12]

Best smoker barges 1-5 large [Vol 12]

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BlueMR2

8,667 posts

204 months

Sunday 25th March 2018
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Jimmy Recard said:
I know someone with a true horror of a Mitsubishi L200, totally unroadworthy. It's on a Jersey registration so doesn't need an MOT and she doesn't care at all.
Not great.

Trustmeimadoctor

12,749 posts

157 months

Monday 26th March 2018
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Xc90 borktastic?

TobyLerone

1,128 posts

146 months

Monday 26th March 2018
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Trustmeimadoctor said:
Xc90 borktastic?
While we tend to be fairly well spoken, and less sensationalist than some other areas of PH, here on Smoker Barges, I might suggest you'll be more warmly responded to if you phrase your question with more than a 2 word sentence.

What year? Engine? Which market are you buying in? What's your use case? What price range? Mileage? Do you have any specific vehicles in mind which are currently for sale?

The level of beardage here is almighty, but you need to ask the right questions to get the right answers, friend.

Trustmeimadoctor

12,749 posts

157 months

Monday 26th March 2018
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sorry didnt even realise id posted it! id started then got distracted!

anyway how are the xc90's on the bork front. I was tempted by a s80 executive but they are rather strong money still but the XC90's seem to be not too bad value wise. But i know square root of F**k all about volvos!

SimonConnell

349 posts

198 months

Monday 26th March 2018
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TobyLerone said:
While we tend to be fairly well spoken, and less sensationalist than some other areas of PH
Well, he is a doctor - brevity of communication is something of a stereotype...

Emeye

9,773 posts

225 months

Monday 26th March 2018
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Trustmeimadoctor said:
sorry didnt even realise id posted it! id started then got distracted!

anyway how are the xc90's on the bork front. I was tempted by a s80 executive but they are rather strong money still but the XC90's seem to be not too bad value wise. But i know square root of F**k all about volvos!
We have a 53 plate XC90 D5 - my wife loves it - I really like it. It does a great job of carting our 4 kids around. It has 150K miles on the clock. They are not bork free.

Now, My bro bought it at 80k miles in 2010 from Volvo Huddersfield as an approved car, and when they did the one hundred and whatever checks, it needed quite a lot spending on it, ,which meant my bro ended up with the Swedish 7 seat version of trigger's broom which he then had serviced and looked after by an official Volvo specialist.

I bought it off him just over a year ago.

From the top of my head, it has needed a new intercooler, there was a problem with the power steering and a few other things, but nothing major - since we had it, I had to have a rear sticking brake caliper replaced, the engine mounts have gone which means the vacuum leaks causing turbo issues - this has been bodged by sealing off the pipe to the active engine mounts. It also kept going into limp mode, which I think was a sticking turbo vane - fixed by an italian tune-up and diesel red-ex, and possibly impacted by the vacuum problems.

At the moment it is at my mates garage having the ignition key mech replace - £208 plus vat for the specially ordered, coded part.

Does that answer the bork question? hehe

I paid my bro less than £3k, so to me I don't mind spending a bit of wonga on it.

Common faults are the chocolate diffs making it a FWD car and the autobox is "sealed for life", which means it dies earlier than it should if the fluid was changed.

The early D5s with 163bhp are more reliable engines as they do not have the emissions guff attached, but are meant to be sluggish compared to the later ones - as my wife does short journeys, the earlier engine makes sense.

Have a search - one of the forum regulars is an XC90 beard and did a great reader's car thread on the later model mk1 XC90.


SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

255 months

Monday 26th March 2018
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Emeye said:
Trustmeimadoctor said:
sorry didnt even realise id posted it! id started then got distracted!

anyway how are the xc90's on the bork front. I was tempted by a s80 executive but they are rather strong money still but the XC90's seem to be not too bad value wise. But i know square root of F**k all about volvos!
We have a 53 plate XC90 D5 - my wife loves it - I really like it. It does a great job of carting our 4 kids around. It has 150K miles on the clock. They are not bork free.

Now, My bro bought it at 80k miles in 2010 from Volvo Huddersfield as an approved car, and when they did the one hundred and whatever checks, it needed quite a lot spending on it, ,which meant my bro ended up with the Swedish 7 seat version of trigger's broom which he then had serviced and looked after by an official Volvo specialist.

I bought it off him just over a year ago.

From the top of my head, it has needed a new intercooler, there was a problem with the power steering and a few other things, but nothing major - since we had it, I had to have a rear sticking brake caliper replaced, the engine mounts have gone which means the vacuum leaks causing turbo issues - this has been bodged by sealing off the pipe to the active engine mounts. It also kept going into limp mode, which I think was a sticking turbo vane - fixed by an italian tune-up and diesel red-ex, and possibly impacted by the vacuum problems.

At the moment it is at my mates garage having the ignition key mech replace - £208 plus vat for the specially ordered, coded part.

Does that answer the bork question? hehe

I paid my bro less than £3k, so to me I don't mind spending a bit of wonga on it.

Common faults are the chocolate diffs making it a FWD car and the autobox is "sealed for life", which means it dies earlier than it should if the fluid was changed.

The early D5s with 163bhp are more reliable engines as they do not have the emissions guff attached, but are meant to be sluggish compared to the later ones - as my wife does short journeys, the earlier engine makes sense.

Have a search - one of the forum regulars is an XC90 beard and did a great reader's car thread on the later model mk1 XC90.
KapitanLangzaam (or something like that) is the beardiest Volvo beard on XC90s. He knows A LOT.

Emeye

9,773 posts

225 months

Monday 26th March 2018
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SpeckledJim said:
KapitanLangzaam (or something like that) is the beardiest Volvo beard on XC90s. He knows A LOT.
Yes - that's him, lovely guy who answered a few Volvo questions for me a while back - I am supposed to be working, not handing out friendly consumer advice on'tinternet, so I didn't have the time to look.

He should be forced to change his PH name to VolvoBeard1....


Edited by Emeye on Monday 26th March 17:03

Zonergem

1,368 posts

94 months

Monday 26th March 2018
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Something close to the ur-Barge (rare, V12, looks mint) and one which would win the thread but for being guided at 5.5-7k.






https://angliacarauctions.co.uk/classic/saturday-1...

Jimmy Recard

17,540 posts

181 months

Monday 26th March 2018
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There has been an XC90 parked across the road from work for nearly a week now. It just stopped there in a cloud of white smoke and there's an enormous pool of oil underneath it. Since then, the driver has been nowhere to be seen.

I think probably the intercooler failed, I don't know. It's an 06 plate D5. If we can find the owner, you may get that one very cheap hehe

r129sl

9,518 posts

205 months

Monday 26th March 2018
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Rescued the Subaru tonight. What friendly chaps they are at Stanhope police station.

The cross-country return to civilisation has an interesting result.


Emeye

9,773 posts

225 months

Monday 26th March 2018
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r129sl said:
Rescued the Subaru tonight. What friendly chaps they are at Stanhope police station.

The cross-country return to civilisation has an interesting result.

That view looks very familiar - where is it?

giblet

8,879 posts

179 months

Monday 26th March 2018
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Zonergem said:
Something close to the ur-Barge (rare, V12, looks mint) and one which would win the thread but for being guided at 5.5-7k.



https://angliacarauctions.co.uk/classic/saturday-1...
That’s lovely, I’ve always wanted a V12 and a car with a picnic tables!

r129sl

9,518 posts

205 months

Monday 26th March 2018
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Emeye said:
That view looks very familiar - where is it?
Here, between St John's Chapel and Langdon Beck: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@54.7204669,-2.22527...

The view is roughly to the north. We had a great run back to SJC, then Stanhope, then over the top to the A68, A69, civilisation.

cornershop

2,136 posts

198 months

Monday 26th March 2018
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olly755 said:
The yearly MOT’s can loom like an A level exam for the average bargista, so it’s always nice to get a straight pass, and even more so with no advisories. Oil and filters next week, and we’re good to go for another year.

Nice work - the previous advisories on mine didn’t lie, this found earlier today - note the rear on my car had sunk, however this was a front spring (new KYB shocks, Kilen springs and spring insulators being fitted):


MorganP104

2,605 posts

132 months

Monday 26th March 2018
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Zonergem said:
Something close to the ur-Barge (rare, V12, looks mint) and one which would win the thread but for being guided at 5.5-7k.



https://angliacarauctions.co.uk/classic/saturday-1...
I want to have want for this (let's face it, the car is epic), though I just can't escape the fact these X300s (and the X308s that followed) are essentially lightly re-skinned XJ40s. Not that there's anything wrong with the XJ40 (I had one, back in the day), but it was an early 1970s design, released in the 1980s, and facelifted over and over, until it was replaced in 2003 with the X350.

In classic Smoker Barge thread style, I'll end on a positive... How about those X350s, eh? Bit nice, right? biggrin



Krikkit

26,647 posts

183 months

Monday 26th March 2018
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Oof, dbdb will be along shortly to put you right sir.

Lovely thing though, absolute classic.

Croutons

9,991 posts

168 months

Tuesday 27th March 2018
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E39 525I Sport Individual, 33K on it for thread max. Oofy McOofFace.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

anonymous-user

56 months

Tuesday 27th March 2018
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MorganP104 said:
I want to have want for this (let's face it, the car is epic), though I just can't escape the fact these X300s (and the X308s that followed) are essentially lightly re-skinned XJ40s. Not that there's anything wrong with the XJ40 (I had one, back in the day), but it was an early 1970s design, released in the 1980s, and facelifted over and over, until it was replaced in 2003 with the X350.

In classic Smoker Barge thread style, I'll end on a positive... How about those X350s, eh? Bit nice, right? biggrin
They are fabulous, particularly in SWB form. Easily the most competent home that V12 ever had and the engine/ancillaries had pretty much all the foibles sorted (after just 30 years!). I covered big mileages in mine over 3 years and it was bullet proof and a brilliant companion. The four speed autobox really made the engine much easier to exploit.

Very old fashioned now though in terms of NVH and thirst to performance ratio. I'd love one again now I don't drive for work.

dbdb

4,340 posts

175 months

Tuesday 27th March 2018
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Krikkit said:
Oof, dbdb will be along shortly to put you right sir.

Lovely thing though, absolute classic.
He he - I'm the r129sl of XJ40s! hehe

I do actually agree that in every measurable way the X350 is a better car than any XJ40, X300 or X308. The trouble is they don't have quite the same swagger as the older cars and I can never more than admire them, never love them.

My brother had an X350 Super V8 in about 2006 - and, impressive though it was, he felt the same way.
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