ULEZ charge in 2021
Discussion
rallycross said:
Joey Deacon said:
If I am honest I don't care in the slightest as I have replaced an old Euro 4 diesel with a Euro 5 petrol. However I see lots and lots of late diesel cars who are not going to be happy.
I think it is a good thing to get these noisy, smelly, cancer particle producing cars off the road anyway. I saw an old 1 Series yesterday that sounded like it was near terminal and absolutely stunk, so hopefully that will be gone in five months.
That’s only the old sI think it is a good thing to get these noisy, smelly, cancer particle producing cars off the road anyway. I saw an old 1 Series yesterday that sounded like it was near terminal and absolutely stunk, so hopefully that will be gone in five months.
tters most of which will be mot failures soon. This affects 100,000’s of car owners inside the M25 with perfectly smoke free non polluting quiet diesels like bmw 330d, smax fiesta and focus models with dpf’s.
Joey Deacon said:
rallycross said:
That’s only the old stters most of which will be mot failures soon.
This affects 100,000’s of car owners inside the M25 with perfectly smoke free non polluting quiet diesels like bmw 330d, smax fiesta and focus models with dpf’s.
tters most of which will be mot failures soon. This affects 100,000’s of car owners inside the M25 with perfectly smoke free non polluting quiet diesels like bmw 330d, smax fiesta and focus models with dpf’s.
CT05 Nose Cone said:
Joey Deacon said:
rallycross said:
That’s only the old stters most of which will be mot failures soon.
This affects 100,000’s of car owners inside the M25 with perfectly smoke free non polluting quiet diesels like bmw 330d, smax fiesta and focus models with dpf’s.
tters most of which will be mot failures soon. This affects 100,000’s of car owners inside the M25 with perfectly smoke free non polluting quiet diesels like bmw 330d, smax fiesta and focus models with dpf’s.
Fastdruid said:
The next expansion in the scheme can only be everything except EV's. It won't be "Euro 5 petrols", it'll be Euro 4, 5, 6 petrols *and* Euro 6 diesels.
The next expansion will be road pricing, so regardless of how much we pay for fuel or road tax and congestion charge etc we will also be priced per mile drvien in london to fund mayor Kan'ts TFL madness.rallycross said:
Fastdruid said:
The next expansion in the scheme can only be everything except EV's. It won't be "Euro 5 petrols", it'll be Euro 4, 5, 6 petrols *and* Euro 6 diesels.
The next expansion will be road pricing, so regardless of how much we pay for fuel or road tax and congestion charge etc we will also be priced per mile driven in London to fund mayor Kahn's TFL madness.I'm not going to attack personal posters in the overall thread, but you're delusional if you openly laugh and point fingers to those with non-compliant cars now. (pre Euro6 diesels, pre Euro4 petrols) The goalposts will change sooner rather than later. I'll have the modicum of respect to not follow those posters and say "told you so" however we're screwed as motorists going forward if something doesn't happen to shake the narrative.
Typical divide and conquer strategy, as seen on this very own thread. Good luck to all.
CT05 Nose Cone said:
Joey Deacon said:
rallycross said:
That’s only the old stters most of which will be mot failures soon.
This affects 100,000’s of car owners inside the M25 with perfectly smoke free non polluting quiet diesels like bmw 330d, smax fiesta and focus models with dpf’s.
tters most of which will be mot failures soon. This affects 100,000’s of car owners inside the M25 with perfectly smoke free non polluting quiet diesels like bmw 330d, smax fiesta and focus models with dpf’s.
untakenname said:
Looks like a cat and mouse game has started with the first ULEZ camera's to be installed in my borough, they were installed yesterday then overnight they were vandalised and disabled now when I drove past today they were being repaired.
Guessing Bromley? See someone post, ulez cameras just gone up, then 7hrs later post again showing all the wires cut! 
Yeah, mounted to the lights on the junction by Bromley Common.
Found it odd that they were mounted so low, have a feeling that future camera installs may be higher up on lamp posts to deter vandalism.
With the proliferation of cheap laser pointers from China which don't abide by the <5mw rule it's trivial to destroy camera sensors using green and blue lasers as evidenced by the HK protests recently, only a matter of time before people here realise that for £20 delivered on Amazon they can buy a tool that will disable camera's from a distance.
Found it odd that they were mounted so low, have a feeling that future camera installs may be higher up on lamp posts to deter vandalism.
With the proliferation of cheap laser pointers from China which don't abide by the <5mw rule it's trivial to destroy camera sensors using green and blue lasers as evidenced by the HK protests recently, only a matter of time before people here realise that for £20 delivered on Amazon they can buy a tool that will disable camera's from a distance.
untakenname said:
Yeah, mounted to the lights on the junction by Bromley Common.
Found it odd that they were mounted so low, have a feeling that future camera installs may be higher up on lamp posts to deter vandalism.
They can't put them on Lamp posts, as not looked after by TFL, and Bromley are one if the council's against it. So won't let them, yet.Found it odd that they were mounted so low, have a feeling that future camera installs may be higher up on lamp posts to deter vandalism.
So the only option is the traffic lights run by TFL and easy to get at the cables.
kingston12 said:
Judging from photographs I've seen on some local groups the approach on another edge of the new zone (Kingston/Richmond) appears to be covering the cameras with supermarket carrier bags. Not quite such a permanent approach!
Also slightly premature as it doesn't start for another 5 months.I guarantee the police will be told to find these people are prosecute them, perverting the course of justice?
Joey Deacon said:
kingston12 said:
Judging from photographs I've seen on some local groups the approach on another edge of the new zone (Kingston/Richmond) appears to be covering the cameras with supermarket carrier bags. Not quite such a permanent approach!
Also slightly premature as it doesn't start for another 5 months.I guarantee the police will be told to find these people are prosecute them, perverting the course of justice?
Joey Deacon said:
kingston12 said:
Judging from photographs I've seen on some local groups the approach on another edge of the new zone (Kingston/Richmond) appears to be covering the cameras with supermarket carrier bags. Not quite such a permanent approach!
Also slightly premature as it doesn't start for another 5 months.I guarantee the police will be told to find these people are prosecute them, perverting the course of justice?
I am not sure what would happen if City Hall steamrollers the hold out councils and they decide, to erect signs, which obscure the cameras etc.
Edited by Graveworm on Friday 24th March 13:24
Ice_blue_tvr said:
Khan is a smart guy. He will be giving the met access to the cameras to use for enforcement. So vandalism may get taking more seriously when that comes into play.
At the moment Khan isn’t the Mets favourite person. Obviously doesn’t mean that they will become bed fellows to minimise their own current problems!
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