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Dr Interceptor said:
Lordbenny said:
Hugo Stiglitz said:
Bizarre how it's even considered saleable in any form. What could you use from that and how do they value it at 1700..
It’s got nearly a full tank if diesel!
E63eeeeee... said:
Nickp82 said:
Mildly ironic sun strip on that Bimmer
Indeed, although I think it was more likely momentum that caused the problem. fastbikes76 said:
kiethton said:
Stuck throttle apparently - shame as it's a lovely car
I know the old ‘stuck throttle’ gets banded around waaaay too freely, but I genuinely had one on a 1100cc motorcycle due to intake clamps wedging the throttle open the first time I went WOT. Absolutely terrifying experience and despite all the hindsight of of just pull the clutch in etc, initial reaction is trying to work out what the f
k is going on while closing down on something at many many leptons !!1968 in the days when private teams could still buy & run current F1 cars. Heat of the Oz Gold Star, [our Formula 1 championship], private practice for gold star cars Friday afternoon driving a BT23 Brabham Repco F1. Brand new pads that had to go through a full heat cycle before they worked much in those days, brand new tyres, all slippery & still with pimples in the days when racing tyres still had tread.
Driving very gently, warming up a cold engine & box, driving down the inside of the track as other cars were out going quickly, & no flag marshals to warn you one was coming up. I was just starting my second lap.
This was also the days of bowden cables driving the throttle. Coming into a right angle turn I blipped the throttle to go back to second, the outer bowden cable jumped out of it's housing in the throttle body, & sat on the outside end of the housing, giving a bit over half throttle. I hit the brakes, very hard I should imagine, I can't actually remember, but with the new pads they did little, not even leaving a skid mark on the road.
The car under steered straight across the track & into the safety fence.The safety fence was on the edge of the track, the nose went under the fence, just after I had hit the ignition switch. The front wheels stopped the car going right under the fence, damaging the wishbones & folding up the radius rods, but other wise not much damage really.
Fortunately the mechanic could see immediately what had happened, so I was spared that doubt, "THE THROTTLE JAMMED" syndrome.
It does happen.
sleepera6 said:
Not mine and I know what the title says, but I came across this on copart… its so bad that I think it warrants to be on this thread as an exception regardless.
https://www.copart.co.uk/lot/66353981/2004-bmw-320...
WTF
Haunting….. hopefully nobody was seriously hurt. I doubt it was fatal as otherwise it wouldn’t be on copart ..
Looks like a 'tree' serieshttps://www.copart.co.uk/lot/66353981/2004-bmw-320...
WTF
Haunting….. hopefully nobody was seriously hurt. I doubt it was fatal as otherwise it wouldn’t be on copart ..
Hasbeen said:
fastbikes76 said:
kiethton said:
Stuck throttle apparently - shame as it's a lovely car
I know the old ‘stuck throttle’ gets banded around waaaay too freely, but I genuinely had one on a 1100cc motorcycle due to intake clamps wedging the throttle open the first time I went WOT. Absolutely terrifying experience and despite all the hindsight of of just pull the clutch in etc, initial reaction is trying to work out what the fk is going on while closing down on something at many many leptons !!1968 in the days when private teams could still buy & run current F1 cars. Heat of the Oz Gold Star, [our Formula 1 championship], private practice for gold star cars Friday afternoon driving a BT23 Brabham Repco F1. Brand new pads that had to go through a full heat cycle before they worked much in those days, brand new tyres, all slippery & still with pimples in the days when racing tyres still had tread.
Driving very gently, warming up a cold engine & box, driving down the inside of the track as other cars were out going quickly, & no flag marshals to warn you one was coming up. I was just starting my second lap.
This was also the days of bowden cables driving the throttle. Coming into a right angle turn I blipped the throttle to go back to second, the outer bowden cable jumped out of it's housing in the throttle body, & sat on the outside end of the housing, giving a bit over half throttle. I hit the brakes, very hard I should imagine, I can't actually remember, but with the new pads they did little, not even leaving a skid mark on the road.
The car under steered straight across the track & into the safety fence.The safety fence was on the edge of the track, the nose went under the fence, just after I had hit the ignition switch. The front wheels stopped the car going right under the fence, damaging the wishbones & folding up the radius rods, but other wise not much damage really.
Fortunately the mechanic could see immediately what had happened, so I was spared that doubt, "THE THROTTLE JAMMED" syndrome.
It does happen.
te K&N style cone air intake that sat behind the near side head lamp, where the normal air box would be.I’d bought the car mainly for a bit of fun/laning etc, I had a new MINI that was my daily driver at the time.
Snow fell one night, so I took the Disco into work, which at the time was in Aldershot. Driving though the military town the K&N air filter delaminated, and a big lump of rubber hose got sucked up the air intake wedging the throttle body wide open.
Big V8, pulling hard, first thing I did was hit the brakes, which were soon overcome. It all got very hairy, and in hindsight it’s easy to think and wonder why I didn’t push it into neutral and turn the Ignition off!
Dr Interceptor said:
Hasbeen said:
fastbikes76 said:
kiethton said:
Stuck throttle apparently - shame as it's a lovely car
I know the old ‘stuck throttle’ gets banded around waaaay too freely, but I genuinely had one on a 1100cc motorcycle due to intake clamps wedging the throttle open the first time I went WOT. Absolutely terrifying experience and despite all the hindsight of of just pull the clutch in etc, initial reaction is trying to work out what the fk is going on while closing down on something at many many leptons !!1968 in the days when private teams could still buy & run current F1 cars. Heat of the Oz Gold Star, [our Formula 1 championship], private practice for gold star cars Friday afternoon driving a BT23 Brabham Repco F1. Brand new pads that had to go through a full heat cycle before they worked much in those days, brand new tyres, all slippery & still with pimples in the days when racing tyres still had tread.
Driving very gently, warming up a cold engine & box, driving down the inside of the track as other cars were out going quickly, & no flag marshals to warn you one was coming up. I was just starting my second lap.
This was also the days of bowden cables driving the throttle. Coming into a right angle turn I blipped the throttle to go back to second, the outer bowden cable jumped out of it's housing in the throttle body, & sat on the outside end of the housing, giving a bit over half throttle. I hit the brakes, very hard I should imagine, I can't actually remember, but with the new pads they did little, not even leaving a skid mark on the road.
The car under steered straight across the track & into the safety fence.The safety fence was on the edge of the track, the nose went under the fence, just after I had hit the ignition switch. The front wheels stopped the car going right under the fence, damaging the wishbones & folding up the radius rods, but other wise not much damage really.
Fortunately the mechanic could see immediately what had happened, so I was spared that doubt, "THE THROTTLE JAMMED" syndrome.
It does happen.
te K&N style cone air intake that sat behind the near side head lamp, where the normal air box would be.I’d bought the car mainly for a bit of fun/laning etc, I had a new MINI that was my daily driver at the time.
Snow fell one night, so I took the Disco into work, which at the time was in Aldershot. Driving though the military town the K&N air filter delaminated, and a big lump of rubber hose got sucked up the air intake wedging the throttle body wide open.
Big V8, pulling hard, first thing I did was hit the brakes, which were soon overcome. It all got very hairy, and in hindsight it’s easy to think and wonder why I didn’t push it into neutral and turn the Ignition off!
Dr Interceptor said:
It happened to me on the open road… I bought a Discovery 2 with the later 4.0 V8, a previous owner had fitted some ste K&N style cone air intake that sat behind the near side head lamp, where the normal air box would be.
I’d bought the car mainly for a bit of fun/laning etc, I had a new MINI that was my daily driver at the time.
Snow fell one night, so I took the Disco into work, which at the time was in Aldershot. Driving though the military town the K&N air filter delaminated, and a big lump of rubber hose got sucked up the air intake wedging the throttle body wide open.
Big V8, pulling hard, first thing I did was hit the brakes, which were soon overcome. It all got very hairy, and in hindsight it’s easy to think and wonder why I didn’t push it into neutral and turn the Ignition off!
That's interesting - I really wouldn't have thought the engine could overcome the brakes. te K&N style cone air intake that sat behind the near side head lamp, where the normal air box would be.I’d bought the car mainly for a bit of fun/laning etc, I had a new MINI that was my daily driver at the time.
Snow fell one night, so I took the Disco into work, which at the time was in Aldershot. Driving though the military town the K&N air filter delaminated, and a big lump of rubber hose got sucked up the air intake wedging the throttle body wide open.
Big V8, pulling hard, first thing I did was hit the brakes, which were soon overcome. It all got very hairy, and in hindsight it’s easy to think and wonder why I didn’t push it into neutral and turn the Ignition off!
Edited for review I found on what happens to modern cars stuck with a WOT (they stop, mostly).
https://www.caranddriver.com/features/a16576573/ho...
Edited by Brother D on Monday 13th December 18:41
Hasbeen said:
fastbikes76 said:
kiethton said:
Stuck throttle apparently - shame as it's a lovely car
I know the old ‘stuck throttle’ gets banded around waaaay too freely, but I genuinely had one on a 1100cc motorcycle due to intake clamps wedging the throttle open the first time I went WOT. Absolutely terrifying experience and despite all the hindsight of of just pull the clutch in etc, initial reaction is trying to work out what the fk is going on while closing down on something at many many leptons !!1968 in the days when private teams could still buy & run current F1 cars. Heat of the Oz Gold Star, [our Formula 1 championship], private practice for gold star cars Friday afternoon driving a BT23 Brabham Repco F1. Brand new pads that had to go through a full heat cycle before they worked much in those days, brand new tyres, all slippery & still with pimples in the days when racing tyres still had tread.
Driving very gently, warming up a cold engine & box, driving down the inside of the track as other cars were out going quickly, & no flag marshals to warn you one was coming up. I was just starting my second lap.
This was also the days of bowden cables driving the throttle. Coming into a right angle turn I blipped the throttle to go back to second, the outer bowden cable jumped out of it's housing in the throttle body, & sat on the outside end of the housing, giving a bit over half throttle. I hit the brakes, very hard I should imagine, I can't actually remember, but with the new pads they did little, not even leaving a skid mark on the road.
The car under steered straight across the track & into the safety fence.The safety fence was on the edge of the track, the nose went under the fence, just after I had hit the ignition switch. The front wheels stopped the car going right under the fence, damaging the wishbones & folding up the radius rods, but other wise not much damage really.
Fortunately the mechanic could see immediately what had happened, so I was spared that doubt, "THE THROTTLE JAMMED" syndrome.
It does happen.
I had it happen many years ago in an old Mercedes in an underground car park. I found out that, like trees, re-informed concrete posts do not bend!!!!
Spydaman][url said:
Heisenberg in his BMW ran into the back of my Karmann Ghia the day the restoration was finished. Doesn't look much but would have been £25k to repair as a NOS wing was £2.5k and rear panel £1k so it was written off. I bought it back off the insurance and sold it to a chap who was going to repair it himself. He got it straight and ready for paint when his workshop burnt down taking the KG and others with it. It had been crashed the other side before I bought it which probably wrote it off too. I didn't have agreed value insurance either.
That really sucks. I fully understand how insurance works but still I really resent that it's almost invariably the victim who comes off far worse overall in these situations. Even if his Z4 was crushed out of principle for writing off someone else's classic car due to incompetence he could find another identical without looking very hard at all. It really boils my wee that they can cause these collisions and just shrug it off with less physical and emotional loss than they have inflicted on someone else due to their inadequacy as a driver.
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