Stupid things non petrolheads say... Vol 2

Stupid things non petrolheads say... Vol 2

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boyse7en

6,793 posts

167 months

Wednesday 26th July 2017
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Blown2CV said:
are we saying that people who are learning in manual diesels are being taught to pull away just by lifting the clutch??
Yep, guy in the office in his early thirties just passed his test and bought an elderly 1.6 Astra for £800. He said there was something wrong with it as it stalled all the time and that it had no power. He'd learnt to drive in a diesel which meant he wasn't using any throttle to pull away (hence the petrol Astra stalling) and it had no power because he was changing up at about 2500rpm.

Blown2CV

29,106 posts

205 months

Wednesday 26th July 2017
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this cannot be true. They aren't being taught to drive, then?

Sycamore

1,822 posts

120 months

Wednesday 26th July 2017
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Blown2CV said:
are we saying that people who are learning in manual diesels are being taught to pull away just by lifting the clutch??
Yup. I learnt to drive in 2012 in a diesel Focus with a well-known driving school. I was told to just use the clutch when having to pull away slowly, do 3-point turns, parallel park etc.
Even at the time I knew it wasn't quite right, but I just did as he says. Passed my test first time and the examiner didn't mention it either.

Bungleaio

6,340 posts

204 months

Wednesday 26th July 2017
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I learnt to drive in a diesel metro. It most definitely needed use of the accelerator as the clutch came up.

meehaja

607 posts

110 months

Wednesday 26th July 2017
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It's easier to learn to just lift the clutch rather than balance it with accelerator. My neighbour is a driving instructor who offers "5 day guaranteed pass". The customers don't want to learn to drive, they just want to pass the test.

AlexHat

1,328 posts

121 months

Wednesday 26th July 2017
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It would explain one of my friends driving....whenever they're parking (reversing onto my drive, or parallel parking on the road) they just use the clutch (in a petrol Corsa) which sounds terrible and can't be doing the clutch any good?

Levin

2,035 posts

126 months

Wednesday 26th July 2017
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Blown2CV said:
this cannot be true.
It is. Can't be good for the clutch, but it's what gets taught.

Krikkit

26,642 posts

183 months

Wednesday 26th July 2017
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Levin said:
Blown2CV said:
this cannot be true.
It is. Can't be good for the clutch, but it's what gets taught.
If anything it'll be better, surely? Easy to burn out a clutch from applying too many revs and slipping, much more gentle to use fewer revs.

Blown2CV

29,106 posts

205 months

Wednesday 26th July 2017
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Krikkit said:
Levin said:
Blown2CV said:
this cannot be true.
It is. Can't be good for the clutch, but it's what gets taught.
If anything it'll be better, surely? Easy to burn out a clutch from applying too many revs and slipping, much more gentle to use fewer revs.
providing you only every drive a diesel car... which will be almost no-one who is learning to drive or has recently passed.

InitialDave

11,990 posts

121 months

Wednesday 26th July 2017
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People have always been taught to drive with techniques that are some flavour of bks. When it was my age group, it was all about telling people to drive small modern 16v engines lugging away at 1500rpm (at least learning in diesels makes that actually applicable). I'm sure it'll be something else that's completely odd in another ten or twenty years.

The problem is people not recognising that you're taught/learn to pass your test, and then you learn onwards from that point.

Hugh Jarse

3,538 posts

207 months

Thursday 27th July 2017
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Our V70 has a thud on bumps, my Mrs ask what it was, I said I suspected a bush. She replied...
What a branch with leaves?
Bless.

aka_kerrly

12,443 posts

212 months

Thursday 27th July 2017
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InitialDave said:
Small modern 16v engines lugging away at 1500rpm (at least learning in diesels makes that actually applicable). .
One of the things that annoys me when a passenger is people who drive like it's a race to be in 5th gear by 20mph an cant seem to go over 2000 revs. the same people are often the ones joining the fffin motorway at 40mph to.

The Mad Monk

10,493 posts

119 months

Thursday 27th July 2017
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aka_kerrly said:
One of the things that annoys me when a passenger is people who drive like it's a race to be in 5th gear by 20mph an cant seem to go over 2000 revs. the same people are often the ones joining the fffin motorway at 40mph to.
Go on then, finish the sentence. The motorway to... to where?

anonymous-user

56 months

Thursday 27th July 2017
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My wife rang me the other day and asked how to recline the car seat *
We have had the car for 4 years

  • She said she had bought a rug that was too big for the boot and I believe her. Struggling to explain the feet marks on the headlining though laugh

InitialDave

11,990 posts

121 months

Thursday 27th July 2017
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The Mad Monk said:
Go on then, finish the sentence. The motorway to... to where?
Nowhere, at the rate they drive.

Strudul

1,596 posts

87 months

Thursday 27th July 2017
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aka_kerrly said:
One of the things that annoys me when a passenger is people who drive like it's a race to be in 5th gear by 20mph an cant seem to go over 2000 revs. the same people are often the ones joining the fffin motorway at 40mph to.
I'm usually in 5th by 30 mph and don't go over 2k rpm until the car has been driven for a good 5-10 minutes and everything is warmed and lubed.

That being said, I still probably reach 30 faster than 90% of cars and join motorways at "sensible" speeds.

IanCress

4,409 posts

168 months

Friday 28th July 2017
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Strudul said:
I'm usually in 5th by 30 mph and don't go over 2k rpm until the car has been driven for a good 5-10 minutes and everything is warmed and lubed.

That being said, I still probably reach 30 faster than 90% of cars and join motorways at "sensible" speeds.
Labouring the engine at low revs is worse than using a few revs. There's nothing wrong with going above 2k rpm even when the engine is flat cold.

thatdude

2,655 posts

129 months

Friday 28th July 2017
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Levin said:
It is. Can't be good for the clutch, but it's what gets taught.
I imagine it's ok for the clutch, providing it's done smoothly. I'd be more concerned with the dual mass flywheel.


thatdude

2,655 posts

129 months

Friday 28th July 2017
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aka_kerrly said:
One of the things that annoys me when a passenger is people who drive like it's a race to be in 5th gear by 20mph an cant seem to go over 2000 revs. the same people are often the ones joining the fffin motorway at 40mph to.
Same aholes dont look for a gap to join into and then get all in a panic when they realise a big lorry is there. They had all that slip road to build up speed and get ahead, or they could have chosen to back off and get in behind. But nooo they are blinkered fking idiots who go through life just acting as something happens, never planning ahead.

thatdude

2,655 posts

129 months

Friday 28th July 2017
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Strudul said:
I'm usually in 5th by 30 mph and don't go over 2k rpm until the car has been driven for a good 5-10 minutes and everything is warmed and lubed.

That being said, I still probably reach 30 faster than 90% of cars and join motorways at "sensible" speeds.
Half throttle, half revs is fine on a cold engine.This should see anyone being able to do 60 mph happily in top