Still a £$&£$ on the log book

Still a £$&£$ on the log book

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Liquid Knight

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15,754 posts

185 months

Thursday 15th June 2017
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FORD-FIESTA-2-0TURBO-MOD...

I was about to bid on this...

"Still 1.25 on the log book. Up to the new owner to change".

rolleyes

Liquid Knight

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15,754 posts

185 months

Thursday 29th June 2017
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AlexRS2782

8,074 posts

215 months

Wednesday 26th July 2017
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Popped up on eBay earlier:

1 x dubiously modified WRX STI Impreza Wagon (that started out life as a 1.6 GL and is still registered as such)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Carbon-Subaru-Impreza-WR...

CanAm

9,372 posts

274 months

Tuesday 1st August 2017
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Liquid Knight said:
Apparently somebody paid £6,950 for it!

alec.e

2,149 posts

126 months

Thursday 10th August 2017
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Well, due to my recent dealings with the DVLA, I can see why some people never bother to update vehicle details in their logbook.

I had my car converted back to run on petrol only from LPG Bi-Fuel, so I filled out the relevant section in the V5 and sent it off.
Nearly 2 months later, still nothing, so I rang the DVLA to ask what the status of my V5 was, apparently it was being proccessed. V5 arrived 2 weeks later, no change of fuel and a letter asking for a headed letter from garage who did the 'conversion'! Why did they not say this when I phoned the DVLA?
Still no closer to getting it registered correctly, meaning I have to take the ferry instead of the Eurotunnel for my holiday next month. Still waiting for the garage to issue a letter. Oh well, at least I saved £10 in tax.

Liquid Knight

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15,754 posts

185 months

Wednesday 6th September 2017
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/fiesta-xr2-4x4-cosworth-...

eBay listing said:
This car is 100% road legal and comes with 12 months MOT


rolleyes




4159265

141 posts

83 months

Wednesday 6th September 2017
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So, as the listing might not be 100% honest I could win the auction and then walk away....

And the doesn't have a 12mth MOT...


biggrin

Liquid Knight

Original Poster:

15,754 posts

185 months

Wednesday 6th September 2017
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4159265 said:
So, as the listing might not be 100% honest I could win the auction and then walk away....

And the doesn't have a 12mth MOT...


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Like my other thread about ringing kits.

Why hasn't all the Cosworth gear been declared?

Cheap insurance? Stolen parts?

If they can't be arsed to send off a form and pay for a stamp (to see if it'll need an IVA at the very least) what other corners have been cut.

This looks the part but the seller sounds a prat.

mgtony

4,027 posts

192 months

Wednesday 6th September 2017
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Item location: Barry biggrin

4159265

141 posts

83 months

Wednesday 6th September 2017
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I have been looking for a car like this for ages, especially as it has a 12mth MOT and is fully road legal. I want to pay any price to get this car.





Liquid Knight

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Wednesday 6th September 2017
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mgtony said:
Item location: Barry biggrin
hehe

Barry Boys, Barry Boys; whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do when the DVLA comes for you?"

silly

AlexRS2782

8,074 posts

215 months

Thursday 7th September 2017
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This seems to fit the theme of this thread:

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

rallycross

12,898 posts

239 months

Thursday 7th September 2017
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Liquid Knight said:
Why hasn't all the Cosworth gear been declared?

t.
1. get a saphire cosworth and chop it up so all that is left is the floor pan and running gear.
2. take a rotten fiesta and remove floor pan and running gear and fabricate this on top of your Sierra floorpan and running gear.
3. Call the DVLA and tell them about your new car.

Can anyone spot any problems with this approach?

AlexRS2782

8,074 posts

215 months

Saturday 23rd June 2018
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Basic 1.2 Fiat 500 kitted out to look like a 595 Abarth including an engine change.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/fiat-abarth-1-2-turbo-c...

Unsurprisingly still down as a 1.2 on the V5 because of the £30 RFL rather than what it would be on an Abarth.

daveinhampshire

531 posts

128 months

Saturday 23rd June 2018
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I replaced the engine in my MX-5 and got the snotty letter back from the DVLA demanding an engineer's report. I didn't use an engineer to do it and it has since passed it's mot. It's little surprise people aren't bothering, most conversions are done by enthusiasts who put great care into their cars and are cared for much better than most of the chavvy sheds on the road in my local area.

Liquid Knight

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185 months

Saturday 23rd June 2018
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AlexRS2782 said:
Basic 1.2 Fiat 500 kitted out to look like a 595 Abarth including an engine change.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/fiat-abarth-1-2-turbo-c...

Unsurprisingly still down as a 1.2 on the V5 because of the £30 RFL rather than what it would be on an Abarth.
Knowing how much faff is involved doing a t-jet conversion and brakes, and interior, and air con', and so on it's hard to imagine that's not an Abarth with the 1.2 numbers added to it.

scratchchin

Liquid Knight

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15,754 posts

185 months

Saturday 23rd June 2018
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daveinhampshire said:
I replaced the engine in my MX-5 and got the snotty letter back from the DVLA demanding an engineer's report. I didn't use an engineer to do it and it has since passed it's mot. It's little surprise people aren't bothering, most conversions are done by enthusiasts who put great care into their cars and are cared for much better than most of the chavvy sheds on the road in my local area.
If it was a like for like replacement engine it should not have sent of any Welsh alarm bells. Even if it was a change of capacity from a 1.6 to 1.8 (N/A) MX5 for example. With the donor log book available to demonstrate it was the same make and model the DVLA should have been fine about it.

Unless it was a completely different engine or one from a later model where modified engine mounts would be required. Even then those mounts are widely available and you could have shown them the receipt to put an end to it.

I know of vehicles that have been scrapped because the DVLA wanted to know the ins and outs of a ducks behind. Pinto in a Ford Pop' and others. It all depends how much was involved with the conversion in relation to the Radically Altered Vehicle scheme.

I have always wanted to put a 13B in an N/A since my RX7 convertible was a bit too heavy for the rotary.

daveinhampshire

531 posts

128 months

Saturday 23rd June 2018
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Liquid Knight said:
If it was a like for like replacement engine it should not have sent of any Welsh alarm bells. Even if it was a change of capacity from a 1.6 to 1.8 (N/A) MX5 for example. With the donor log book available to demonstrate it was the same make and model the DVLA should have been fine about it.

Unless it was a completely different engine or one from a later model where modified engine mounts would be required. Even then those mounts are widely available and you could have shown them the receipt to put an end to it.

I know of vehicles that have been scrapped because the DVLA wanted to know the ins and outs of a ducks behind. Pinto in a Ford Pop' and others. It all depends how much was involved with the conversion in relation to the Radically Altered Vehicle scheme.

I have always wanted to put a 13B in an N/A since my RX7 convertible was a bit too heavy for the rotary.
It just annoyed me, I'm self employed and I've seen pretty much every government department I deal with demand more and more paperwork and my time. When they start introducing it into my hobby I'm just not playing. I don't think they even have the legal basis to demand the evidence, an engineer's report is not evidence unless they're an expert in their field.

Deep Thought

35,987 posts

199 months

Saturday 23rd June 2018
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Escort van with Escort 1.8GTI running gear.

1.3 petrol on the tax book...

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/57945456...


Liquid Knight

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