Should we be getting behind Brexit by boycotting German cars

Should we be getting behind Brexit by boycotting German cars

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lowdrag

12,940 posts

215 months

Thursday 24th December 2020
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ddom said:
LuS1fer said:
Every manufacturer was affected by the defective Takata airbags, including all the German manufacturers.
What about fuel pumps which just decide to stop? Just the 1.5million recalled in US this year.
For those of us with old cars we are used to the Prince of Darkness. I have carried a spare pump for over 30 years. And a heavy spanner.

SidewaysSi

10,742 posts

236 months

Thursday 24th December 2020
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Kent Border Kenny said:
SturdyHSV said:
He's talking about how people tend to buy cars with their budget, and will pick what car suits their desires within that budget. You'd rather rub the underside of the dashboard, he'd rather have a 650hp V8.

Edited by SturdyHSV on Wednesday 23 December 15:10
Then he’s posting rubbish as you can have both.

The interior of my 650bhp V8 Range Rover is lovely. The car cost about £35,000 and the engine work added £1,600.
I would much rather drive an American car than be sat at the side of a road waiting for a recovery truck in a Range Rover whilst stroking the leather seat.

Can we really class LR as British? It's a bit of a stretch isn't it?

Sahjahd

420 posts

47 months

Friday 25th December 2020
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Anybody who is a net contributor should be buying their cars and everything else possible made in the country in which they reside; every time you buy something foreign made, you import unemployment, and you have to finance that.
As for German cars, after a succession of them, I am heartily sick of rust (Mercedes Benz), and returning home in a recovery lorry (Porsche), and will be buying something made here next time, probably used and for less than £20k instead of the flaming fortune that the German motor industry has fleeced me of.

ETA:- Merry Christmas, whatever you drive.

RMDB9

1,711 posts

50 months

Friday 25th December 2020
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How is buying used going to help the Socialist Republic of England?

powerstroke

10,283 posts

162 months

Friday 25th December 2020
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RMDB9 said:
How is buying used going to help the Socialist Republic of England?
Someone bought it new and maybe because he could sell the old one he will buy another new one??
However
My latest purchase is South African made but
Someone here had to unload it , transport , clean and PDI it so whatever you buy some capitalist pig
has made money from it ...

RMDB9

1,711 posts

50 months

Friday 25th December 2020
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Doesnt convince me.

If you want to save Britain, you should not only buy UK-made cars at full RRP but also make sure you buy the ones which have the least number of foreign-made components, e.g. no Bosch, VDO or Continental parts.

BMW A6

1,911 posts

66 months

Friday 25th December 2020
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I shall not surrender or boycott my 4 cylinder, 2 litre turbo diesel, 5 series estate.
From Bavaria.
Never.

Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

263 months

Friday 25th December 2020
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Sahjahd said:
Anybody who is a net contributor should be buying their cars and everything else possible made in the country in which they reside; every time you buy something foreign made, you import unemployment, and you have to finance that.
As for German cars, after a succession of them, I am heartily sick of rust (Mercedes Benz), and returning home in a recovery lorry (Porsche), and will be buying something made here next time, probably used and for less than £20k instead of the flaming fortune that the German motor industry has fleeced me of.

ETA:- Merry Christmas, whatever you drive.
That is simply not true. Everything imported is ultimately paid for by something else exported.

HM-2

12,467 posts

171 months

Friday 25th December 2020
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Sahjahd said:
every time you buy something foreign made, you import unemployment
Yeah, that's not how economics works.

Bodo

12,381 posts

268 months

Friday 25th December 2020
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RMDB9 said:
Doesnt convince me.

If you want to save Britain, you should not only buy UK-made cars at full RRP but also make sure you buy the ones which have the least number of foreign-made components, e.g. no Bosch, VDO or Continental parts.
This could be difficult. Most OEM only produce the body in white and the engine themselves; the rest is purchased at suppliers. It's safe to say that only very few cars have their supply chain in the country, they're produced in. I can only imagine that in China for a domestically sold model.

From the Top 100 of automotive suppliers, the first with a UK address is GKN at #43 and Delphi at #51, that's it. That said, the suppliers who produce in the UK is a whole different number.

Vince70

1,939 posts

196 months

Friday 25th December 2020
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I’ve got to admit I did like a German car of old 80s and 90s stuff but the modern stuff is so unreliable that I wouldn’t lose sleep if I didn’t have to buy another and the same with modem French Stuff as well as the French don’t do electrics.

Japanese cars these days are far more reliable with better build quality so that’s what I would put my money into if we put a tax hike on European cars.

Or it would be nice if the government offered tax incentives for cars that were built in this country whatever the make.

Richard-D

789 posts

66 months

Friday 25th December 2020
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Vince70 said:
I’ve got to admit I did like a German car of old 80s and 90s stuff but the modern stuff is so unreliable that I wouldn’t lose sleep if I didn’t have to buy another
That's not been my experience at all. I can't just have been lucky, the 2 BMWs that I've owned for the past few years have been excellent and other than consumables have needed 1 repair (a phonic wheel replacement on a driveshaft that cost £5 in parts and a mornings work).

It may not be possible to buy a completely British designed built car but I think supporting a brand that has some of its build in the UK is a nice thing to be able to do. I intend to with my next purchase.

Edit: to answer the OP, I wouldn't view this as boycotting German brands, but supporting British business.


Edited by Richard-D on Friday 25th December 22:01

Eyersey1234

2,903 posts

81 months

Friday 25th December 2020
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I suppose it depends what is meant by a German car, my Focus was made in Germany so are we talking a car that is built in a factory in Germany regardless of the badge on the bonnet or just VW group, BMW etc

Bodo

12,381 posts

268 months

Saturday 26th December 2020
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Eyersey1234 said:
I suppose it depends what is meant by a German car, my Focus was made in Germany so are we talking a car that is built in a factory in Germany regardless of the badge on the bonnet or just VW group, BMW etc
Been clarified earlier in this thread. After the OP started this thread in 2017, he bought a Fiesta and an Insignia - both made in Germany. The motivation behind the thread title might just be that the OP doesn't like drivers of German brand cars made everywhere. No Brexit motivation; Vauxhall, Ford seem to be OK.

DonkeyApple

55,933 posts

171 months

Saturday 26th December 2020
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Why is this country obsessed with Germany? I think that's the mental health issue that should be redressed in the first instance before the army of the mental go on their mad Crusade.

The fundamental problem facing Britain is the same as it has always been. Britons. It's not the foreigners who clean their homes, offices and public spaces, prepare and cook their meals, look after their children, staff all the benefits offices, do all their healthcare, look after their parents and tuck them in at night. It's the legion of dim witted, lazy locals who can't stop shopping and buying tat that they demand is made cheaply overseas so they can afford it but then moan that this tat is not made here anymore.

It's the same with the entire low functioning view of boycotting EU products. It's the insanity that these people are talking about boycotting a product that they cannot even afford. They have to borrow money and even then in many cases that's just to rent it. They don't even realise that they aren't even buying foreign but borrowing foreign money to rent a foreign product.

If Britons don't want an imbalance of imports v exports then just stop borrowing money you haven't earned to buy stuff you don't need. The imbalance exists because the majority of British males live, shop and think like women. Needing shiny new things to validate their deep seated insecurities and needing to borrow money to enable it.

Want to reverse the imbalance? Cut consumer credit. Bosh, problem solved overnight. But no. on Planet Mental Britain people are talking about boycotting German cars. Cars that they can't even afford and every day when they look at their personal consumer debt pile are in denial about why we import more than we export. biggrin


ddom

6,657 posts

50 months

Saturday 26th December 2020
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DonkeyApple said:
Why is this country obsessed with Germany?
Maybe the OP is a xenophobe, can’t be that many reasons tbh? I’ll await to see every shred of German tech removed from that household and can’t wait to here more about his new Caterham/Ariel/BAC obviously without their key German components rofl

RMDB9

1,711 posts

50 months

Saturday 26th December 2020
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Lets just destroy Bosch, forever.

SidewaysSi

10,742 posts

236 months

Saturday 26th December 2020
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RMDB9 said:
Lets just destroy Bosch, forever.
Jeez. No thanks. I love them.

A1VDY

3,575 posts

129 months

Saturday 26th December 2020
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DonkeyApple said:
Why is this country obsessed with Germany? I think that's the mental health issue that should be redressed in the first instance before the army of the mental go on their mad Crusade.

The fundamental problem facing Britain is the same as it has always been. Britons. It's not the foreigners who clean their homes, offices and public spaces, prepare and cook their meals, look after their children, staff all the benefits offices, do all their healthcare, look after their parents and tuck them in at night. It's the legion of dim witted, lazy locals who can't stop shopping and buying tat that they demand is made cheaply overseas so they can afford it but then moan that this tat is not made here anymore.

It's the same with the entire low functioning view of boycotting EU products. It's the insanity that these people are talking about boycotting a product that they cannot even afford. They have to borrow money and even then in many cases that's just to rent it. They don't even realise that they aren't even buying foreign but borrowing foreign money to rent a foreign product.

If Britons don't want an imbalance of imports v exports then just stop borrowing money you haven't earned to buy stuff you don't need. The imbalance exists because the majority of British males live, shop and think like women. Needing shiny new things to validate their deep seated insecurities and needing to borrow money to enable it.

Want to reverse the imbalance? Cut consumer credit. Bosh, problem solved overnight. But no. on Planet Mental Britain people are talking about boycotting German cars. Cars that they can't even afford and every day when they look at their personal consumer debt pile are in denial about why we import more than we export. biggrin
Thisx100
Mortgages/credit cards/ personal loans/ pcp's ect ect. So many people live far beyond their means, many just in a vain attempt to impress.

I'd have trouble in even applying for a personal loan. I have no credit history, not even a credit card.
Always lived within means and bought/paid for everything cash. No mortgage (never had one) no loans no f.a..



RMDB9

1,711 posts

50 months

Saturday 26th December 2020
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But there Germens!