Cars with sub 4 secs 0 to 60 mph?
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BlueEyedBoy said:
cerb4.5lee said:
It was a factory car & they took it back over night to try to get it quicker but still only ended up with 4.3 to sixty.
TVR were upset because autocar had clocked the 4.2 at 4 secs dead & hoped the 4.5 would be quicker.
I think most standard 4.5 cerbs give 360bhp when factory said 420bhp,but the 4.5 is easier to tune against the 4.2 i believe.
I had a 4.5 for 3 years, and some were nowhere near 360, some were as low as 290 ish...However, spending about £500 will get you past 400bhp and should be able to achieve the quoted figures, a red rose should make 420bhp. In that form you were looking at about an 11 second quarter mile.TVR were upset because autocar had clocked the 4.2 at 4 secs dead & hoped the 4.5 would be quicker.
I think most standard 4.5 cerbs give 360bhp when factory said 420bhp,but the 4.5 is easier to tune against the 4.2 i believe.
They are a pig to get off the line cleanly so i would imagine trying to get under 4secs to 60 would be a challenge whatever power you run!
cerb4.5lee said:
Thanks, thats good to know that £500 will give a decent boost of bhp,dont know what bhp mine is running but happy with it anyway.
They are a pig to get off the line cleanly so i would imagine trying to get under 4secs to 60 would be a challenge whatever power you run!
In the wet I used to struggle a bit (or have fun I should say), but in the dry, given the massive travel range of the loud pedal, I found it was fairly easy to launch without much drama. The only time I ever came close to crashing was my first ever drive, when the salesman said I had room to take a line of about 10 cars, which I did, but I wasn't expecting quite how hard the brakes bit when pressed firmly! Brown pants monent!They are a pig to get off the line cleanly so i would imagine trying to get under 4secs to 60 would be a challenge whatever power you run!
BlueEyedBoy said:
cerb4.5lee said:
Thanks, thats good to know that £500 will give a decent boost of bhp,dont know what bhp mine is running but happy with it anyway.
They are a pig to get off the line cleanly so i would imagine trying to get under 4secs to 60 would be a challenge whatever power you run!
In the wet I used to struggle a bit (or have fun I should say), but in the dry, given the massive travel range of the loud pedal, I found it was fairly easy to launch without much drama. The only time I ever came close to crashing was my first ever drive, when the salesman said I had room to take a line of about 10 cars, which I did, but I wasn't expecting quite how hard the brakes bit when pressed firmly! Brown pants monent!They are a pig to get off the line cleanly so i would imagine trying to get under 4secs to 60 would be a challenge whatever power you run!
Passing 10 cars you sound like a hero to me,not even being used to the car fair play!
They are a car that puts a smile on your face though,when they work that is!!!
melted piston said:
RWD cars aren't helped by modern low profle 'elastic band' tyres.
Drag radicals would knock 0.5 secs of many RWD performance cars.
But they sure do look cool? I think it's to give them a larger width and contact patch but I could be wrong. It is cool to watch cars drag race and see a tire deforming amount of torque on those drag racing tires when they first launch.Drag radicals would knock 0.5 secs of many RWD performance cars.
This thread is pretty good but I am going to start another that has more criteria so its harder
300bhp/ton said:
Actually I suspect the vast majority don't. And only the a few of the modern elite do. But out of the thousands of supercars built over the decades no.
Only a few of the modern elite?pretty much every super car since the F40 in the late's 80's will do it in less than 4. Really do you want me to name 50 cars?
Zwoelf said:
Audi quote it as 4.6 secs, AutoExpress have it at 4.4 here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UGdz35sTy8 and I think somebody said earlier with launch control engaged, Evo managed to get it under 4.0.
That was with launch control if the commentator is to be believed.blank said:
OdramaSwimLaden said:
Absolutely no chance it can do a sub 4 secs 0-60 (in standard form).
ETA.....sorry; was this some sort of 335d mapped joke of some kind that i've missed? If so, sorry.
Top Gear mag tested it at 3.8s to 60 in a group test with the 1 Series M.ETA.....sorry; was this some sort of 335d mapped joke of some kind that i've missed? If so, sorry.
I think there was something wrong with the man who makes up their figures that day. It quite simply will NOT hit 60mph from standstill in 3.8seconds.
The 525bhp R8 V10 takes approximately 4.0 seconds dead.....logic should dictate the rest!....or maybe not.
F40, F50, Enzo, F430, F430 Scud, 599, 599GTO, 458 italia, Diablo 6.0, Murci LP640, LP670-SV, Aventator, quite a few gallardo's, at least the 570-4 and 560-4, god knows how many they made, Atom V8, Atom 300, Mugen Atom, Caterham Levante, Superlight R400 and R500, Aston Martin One-77, Merc SLS, Mclaren Merc SLR, Zonda F, Zonda S, Zonda Cinque, Ford GT, ZR-1, Z06, Noble M12 GTO, Noble M400, Noble M600, Mclaren F1, Jag Xj220, Nissan GT-R, Carrera GT, 959, 996 Turbo, 997 Turbo, 997.2 Turbo, 996 GT2, 997 GT2, 997.2 GT2-RS, 4.0 GT3 RS, Evo FQ 360 & 400, Bug EB110, Bug Veryon, Veryon SS, Saleen S7, CCR, CCX, CCXR, Ascari A10, Gumpert Apollo, Caparo T1, Mclaren MP4-12c, about 3 Ruf Porches and a 9ff, SSC Ultimate Aero TT, Radical SR3, Dodge Viper SRT-10, Audi R8 V10, Audi R8 V10 GT, Tusan S, and Sagaris.
How's that?
How's that?
Grovsie26 said:
F40, F50, Enzo, F430, F430 Scud, 599, 599GTO, 458 italia, Diablo 6.0, Murci LP640, LP670-SV, Aventator, quite a few gallardo's, at least the 570-4 and 560-4, god knows how many they made, Atom V8, Atom 300, Mugen Atom, Caterham Levante, Superlight R400 and R500, Aston Martin One-77, Merc SLS, Mclaren Merc SLR, Zonda F, Zonda S, Zonda Cinque, Ford GT, ZR-1, Z06, Noble M12 GTO, Noble M400, Noble M600, Mclaren F1, Jag Xj220, Nissan GT-R, Carrera GT, 959, 996 Turbo, 997 Turbo, 997.2 Turbo, 996 GT2, 997 GT2, 997.2 GT2-RS, 4.0 GT3 RS, Evo FQ 360 & 400, Bug EB110, Bug Veryon, Veryon SS, Saleen S7, CCR, CCX, CCXR, Ascari A10, Gumpert Apollo, Caparo T1, Mclaren MP4-12c, about 3 Ruf Porches and a 9ff, SSC Ultimate Aero TT, Radical SR3, Dodge Viper SRT-10, Audi R8 V10, Audi R8 V10 GT, Tusan S, and Sagaris.
How's that?
You did forget a few of the old favourites, radical SR8, Mosler MT900S, Ultima GTR and Canam etc. Etc.How's that?
RobCrezz said:
300bhp/ton said:
Depends on your target and intended use tbh.
Sticky tyres, suspension capable of deploying the power and loads of usable power and torque.
e.g. cars like these are probably nearer the 2's in terms of 0-60mph.
They are doing wheelies with £2000 worth of mods? yeah right! Sticky tyres, suspension capable of deploying the power and loads of usable power and torque.
e.g. cars like these are probably nearer the 2's in terms of 0-60mph.
OdramaSwimLaden said:
blank said:
OdramaSwimLaden said:
Absolutely no chance it can do a sub 4 secs 0-60 (in standard form).
ETA.....sorry; was this some sort of 335d mapped joke of some kind that i've missed? If so, sorry.
Top Gear mag tested it at 3.8s to 60 in a group test with the 1 Series M.ETA.....sorry; was this some sort of 335d mapped joke of some kind that i've missed? If so, sorry.
I think there was something wrong with the man who makes up their figures that day. It quite simply will NOT hit 60mph from standstill in 3.8seconds.
The 525bhp R8 V10 takes approximately 4.0 seconds dead.....logic should dictate the rest!....or maybe not.
Have a read of EVO this month..
98C4S said:
OdramaSwimLaden said:
blank said:
OdramaSwimLaden said:
Absolutely no chance it can do a sub 4 secs 0-60 (in standard form).
ETA.....sorry; was this some sort of 335d mapped joke of some kind that i've missed? If so, sorry.
Top Gear mag tested it at 3.8s to 60 in a group test with the 1 Series M.ETA.....sorry; was this some sort of 335d mapped joke of some kind that i've missed? If so, sorry.
I think there was something wrong with the man who makes up their figures that day. It quite simply will NOT hit 60mph from standstill in 3.8seconds.
The 525bhp R8 V10 takes approximately 4.0 seconds dead.....logic should dictate the rest!....or maybe not.
Have a read of EVO this month..
Still not buying it.
A 1600kg car with 340bhp will not do a 3.8 secs to 60mph. Unless it has had some fiddling (a la Ferrari press cars).
ETA.....+ the figure is nearly 25% quicker than audi's own figure of 4.6 seconds. If they did a 3.8 seconds 60 mph run, they'd be swinging from the rafters shouting it!!!
Edited by OdramaSwimLaden on Monday 18th July 23:20
Grovsie26 said:
300bhp/ton said:
Actually I suspect the vast majority don't. And only the a few of the modern elite do. But out of the thousands of supercars built over the decades no.
Only a few of the modern elite?pretty much every super car since the F40 in the late's 80's will do it in less than 4. Really do you want me to name 50 cars?
And I'll name the couple of hundred that are no where near sub 4 second 0-60mph sprints.
Grovsie26 said:
F40, F50, Enzo, F430, F430 Scud, 599, 599GTO, 458 italia, Diablo 6.0, Murci LP640, LP670-SV, Aventator, quite a few gallardo's, at least the 570-4 and 560-4, god knows how many they made, Atom V8, Atom 300, Mugen Atom, Caterham Levante, Superlight R400 and R500, Aston Martin One-77, Merc SLS, Mclaren Merc SLR, Zonda F, Zonda S, Zonda Cinque, Ford GT, ZR-1, Z06, Noble M12 GTO, Noble M400, Noble M600, Mclaren F1, Jag Xj220, Nissan GT-R, Carrera GT, 959, 996 Turbo, 997 Turbo, 997.2 Turbo, 996 GT2, 997 GT2, 997.2 GT2-RS, 4.0 GT3 RS, Evo FQ 360 & 400, Bug EB110, Bug Veryon, Veryon SS, Saleen S7, CCR, CCX, CCXR, Ascari A10, Gumpert Apollo, Caparo T1, Mclaren MP4-12c, about 3 Ruf Porches and a 9ff, SSC Ultimate Aero TT, Radical SR3, Dodge Viper SRT-10, Audi R8 V10, Audi R8 V10 GT, Tusan S, and Sagaris.
How's that?
Well despite the fact that quite a few are hardly "supercars" and I'd also debate on if all of them truly are sub 4 sec to 60mph. That said, you originally said most supercars, so lets start with something like the 300SL Gulwing, early Ferrari's, 60's Porsches and work up from there. In pure numbers I think you'll find most in fact are quite a long way from sub 4's.How's that?
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