Re: SOTW: Peugeot 106 Rallye
Discussion
It is not my kind of car at all but it is a good shed of the week nonetheless and as said, variety in sheds is important.
A friend of mine had a white 106 Rallye in the 1990s and I thought it was horrible to be honest, but she loved it. I followed her (in a Jag) on a bendy road once and couldn’t keep up with her. They were basic, simple, well handling fun.
I'd much rather have a barge though!
A friend of mine had a white 106 Rallye in the 1990s and I thought it was horrible to be honest, but she loved it. I followed her (in a Jag) on a bendy road once and couldn’t keep up with her. They were basic, simple, well handling fun.
I'd much rather have a barge though!
LewisR said:
Horrible car.
I drove a non-PAS 106 years ago and the steering was way too heavy.
It is very common for people to try and improve these cars by adding 15" alloys that doubles the weight of the wheels - this ruins the handling and spoils the ride give by the suspension. I know this because I've tried it. 205 1.9 GTI alloys are not an upgrade to the 106 Rallye I drove a non-PAS 106 years ago and the steering was way too heavy.
Yes you can improve things by spending proper money on decent lightweight alloys and tyres like OZ Super/Ultraleggeras like Dave is running on his hill climb car... I've had an S1 Rallye and there are two S2s sitting in the garage in various states of roadworthiness.
They are cracking cars if you buy them knowing that they are French and as such they are likely to reduce the germanic-build-quality-loving motorists to tears at every opportunity. That said the running costs are very low and they are a very easy car to work on. THey have possibly one of the best UK owner communities out there too:
http://www.106rallyeforum.com/
J4CKO said:
LewisR said:
Horrible car.
I drove a non-PAS 106 years ago and the steering was way too heavy.
An E34 525i would be far much more fun.
Get back to the luxo barges please!
So, perhaps we need to make SOTW BMW only ?I drove a non-PAS 106 years ago and the steering was way too heavy.
An E34 525i would be far much more fun.
Get back to the luxo barges please!
Do people really not get SOTW, its meant to be about variety and there are only so many types of whiffy old BMW and most have been done, Garlick and co do their best to bring some esoteric and interesting sheds in for your delectation and all you can say is "BMW please" or even just barges, even barges will run out pretty quickly. How would an E34 525i be "far much more fun" ? both fun in different ways but these have a reputation for being "a hoot" ((c) Pistonheads 1999), why choose a 525i E34 anyway, too middle of the road, at least go for a 540i or an M5, but oh we had one of those a few weeks back.
As for PAS being "too heavy", get down the gym and stop being a big girl.
dr_rallye said:
LewisR said:
Horrible car.
I drove a non-PAS 106 years ago and the steering was way too heavy.
It is very common for people to try and improve these cars by adding 15" alloys that doubles the weight of the wheels - this ruins the handling and spoils the ride give by the suspension. I know this because I've tried it. 205 1.9 GTI alloys are not an upgrade to the 106 Rallye I drove a non-PAS 106 years ago and the steering was way too heavy.
Yes you can improve things by spending proper money on decent lightweight alloys and tyres like OZ Super/Ultraleggeras like Dave is running on his hill climb car... I've had an S1 Rallye and there are two S2s sitting in the garage in various states of roadworthiness.
They are cracking cars if you buy them knowing that they are French and as such they are likely to reduce the germanic-build-quality-loving motorists to tears at every opportunity. That said the running costs are very low and they are a very easy car to work on. THey have possibly one of the best UK owner communities out there too:
http://www.106rallyeforum.com/
I was lucky enough to be working for a Peugeot dealer when these were new. Nobody wanted to have it as their company car so the newbie (me) got it.
To this day it's probably one of the best cars I have driven: utterly basic but so much fun at 7200rpm. You can program out the keypad for reliability and teach yourself to left-foot-brake round roundabouts in the wet. Just don't do it in the middle of Ipswich as I did. In the rush hour. 200m from the Police station.
To this day it's probably one of the best cars I have driven: utterly basic but so much fun at 7200rpm. You can program out the keypad for reliability and teach yourself to left-foot-brake round roundabouts in the wet. Just don't do it in the middle of Ipswich as I did. In the rush hour. 200m from the Police station.
this would be a perfect start for my project £1k track carslikrs said:
...and something which can teach you a whole load about driving properly (much as they used to say about the old Morris Minors etc back when no power + crap tyres + wet roundabout = fun).
My sentiments exactly. 99% of modern cars (including powerful ones) are so dull and uninvolved to drive I'd rather drive a s
tbox and spend my money elsewhere. I first had a 306 which got me into the driving bug....but I realised that rear wheel drive offers yet another wonderful dimension. As long as the grip levels are low enough to exploit safely on the public roads of course. With wide modern tyres the driving wheels are nearly irrelevant IMHO.slikrs said:
...and something which can teach you a whole load about driving properly (much as they used to say about the old Morris Minors etc back when no power + crap tyres + wet roundabout = fun).
My sentiments exactly. 99% of modern cars (including powerful ones) are so dull and uninvolved to drive I'd rather drive a stbox and spend my money elsewhere. I first had a 306 which got me into the driving bug....but I realised that rear wheel drive offers yet another wonderful dimension. As long as the grip levels are low enough to exploit safely on the public roads of course. With wide modern tyres the driving wheels are nearly irrelevant IMHO.olly22n said:
Either you are weak as a kitten or the car was borked. There are fewer driving pleasures greater than a 106 rallye.
+1 on the non-PAS, my MK1 MX-5 is a joy on the road, you just have to man-up when parking (for some reason i always think of a TVR Griffith when i'm parking, it seams to give me the little jolt of adrenaline i need to turn the wheel)Top shed. I only wonder how many in this thread who are singing it's praises would react if it had been a Saxo VTR, which is mechanically pretty similar (nearly indentical to an S2!)
Actually, sods law says you're all ex-SSC folk
On the subject of unusual hot hatches, Riggers? We're dying to see it mate!
Actually, sods law says you're all ex-SSC folk
On the subject of unusual hot hatches, Riggers? We're dying to see it mate!
Ah, Rallyes, I love them. Well, I would...
This reminds me of my brother's old S1, a tidy black 1.3, had the usual lacquer peel on the roof but went like a rocket and put the biggest grin on my face on the Exmoor B roads
His sold for £900 a couple of years ago and I reckon with a bit of shopping around you'd get a tidier S1 than this for sub £1k.
Personally, I prefer the look of the S2 (I'm on my second) and got lucky with my current one being a very well set up car. Gives me a laugh on track days / 'Ring trips, gets me to and from work in relative comfort and doesn't cost the earth to run. I already know I'm going to miss it...
The non-PAS comment made me laugh though. I've got a non-PAS S2, a tiny steering wheel and 7J alloys, yet even with my weedy arms I can drive it no problem!
This reminds me of my brother's old S1, a tidy black 1.3, had the usual lacquer peel on the roof but went like a rocket and put the biggest grin on my face on the Exmoor B roads
His sold for £900 a couple of years ago and I reckon with a bit of shopping around you'd get a tidier S1 than this for sub £1k.
Personally, I prefer the look of the S2 (I'm on my second) and got lucky with my current one being a very well set up car. Gives me a laugh on track days / 'Ring trips, gets me to and from work in relative comfort and doesn't cost the earth to run. I already know I'm going to miss it...
The non-PAS comment made me laugh though. I've got a non-PAS S2, a tiny steering wheel and 7J alloys, yet even with my weedy arms I can drive it no problem!
dr_rallye said:
LewisR said:
Horrible car.
I drove a non-PAS 106 years ago and the steering was way too heavy.
It is very common for people to try and improve these cars by adding 15" alloys that doubles the weight of the wheels - this ruins the handling and spoils the ride give by the suspension. I know this because I've tried it. 205 1.9 GTI alloys are not an upgrade to the 106 Rallye I drove a non-PAS 106 years ago and the steering was way too heavy.
Yes you can improve things by spending proper money on decent lightweight alloys and tyres like OZ Super/Ultraleggeras like Dave is running on his hill climb car... I've had an S1 Rallye and there are two S2s sitting in the garage in various states of roadworthiness.
They are cracking cars if you buy them knowing that they are French and as such they are likely to reduce the germanic-build-quality-loving motorists to tears at every opportunity. That said the running costs are very low and they are a very easy car to work on. THey have possibly one of the best UK owner communities out there too:
http://www.106rallyeforum.com/
I personally feel that Shed should also be a car which is uable inside the budget. Something that needs work misses the point.
This is a great shed, one of the best.
Looks like a great PH-style shed.
Nice image, great reputation for fun handling, minimal stuff to get in the way of driver input.
As for complaints about it not having power steering, or for SOTW to list barges, too much molly-coddling going on here. Stick with the enthusiasts cars, on a budget.
Nice image, great reputation for fun handling, minimal stuff to get in the way of driver input.
As for complaints about it not having power steering, or for SOTW to list barges, too much molly-coddling going on here. Stick with the enthusiasts cars, on a budget.
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