RE: SOTW: Peugeot 205 GTi 1.6
Discussion
205s (306s, 405s) only rust if they've been damaged or badly neglected (underseal works wonders!) - if the paintwork isn't broken and someone keeps an eye underneath, they last forever.
I think the main reason you don't see many around now is a combination of them being crashed or just used until they broke and thrown-away (or broken to make another car better).
Nothing wrong with the 1.6 - arguably the better balanced of the 2 anyway.
PAS? Only on 1.9s I thought and pretty rare - and horrible, frankly.
This is a proper car, requires strength to drive it (the steering doesn't really lighten up much although it's not as bad as the 1.9 which wore wider rubber)! Has no cupholders, GPS or other unessential nannying s
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p.s. I'd not worry too much about the sunroof - it will already be leaking water via the aerial (right onto the remote locking circuit board if fitted) anyway![smile](/inc/images/smile.gif)
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I think the main reason you don't see many around now is a combination of them being crashed or just used until they broke and thrown-away (or broken to make another car better).
Nothing wrong with the 1.6 - arguably the better balanced of the 2 anyway.
PAS? Only on 1.9s I thought and pretty rare - and horrible, frankly.
This is a proper car, requires strength to drive it (the steering doesn't really lighten up much although it's not as bad as the 1.9 which wore wider rubber)! Has no cupholders, GPS or other unessential nannying s
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p.s. I'd not worry too much about the sunroof - it will already be leaking water via the aerial (right onto the remote locking circuit board if fitted) anyway
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Edited by johnpeat on Friday 9th December 14:00
johnpeat said:
205s (306s, 405s) only rust if they've been damaged or badly neglected (underseal works wonders!) - if the paintwork isn't broken and someone keeps an eye underneath, they last forever.
I think the main reason you don't see many around now is a combination of them being crashed or just used until they broke and thrown-away (or broken to make another car better).
Nothing wrong with the 1.6 - arguably the better balanced of the 2 anyway.
PAS? Only on 1.9s I thought and pretty rare - and horrible, frankly.
This is a proper car, requires strength to drive it (the steering doesn't really lighten up much although it's not as bad as the 1.9 which wore wider rubber)! Has no cupholders, GPS or other unessential nannying s
te either ![smile](/inc/images/smile.gif)
p.s. I'd not worry too much about the sunroof - it will already be leaking water via the aerial (right onto the remote locking circuit board if fitted) anyway![smile](/inc/images/smile.gif)
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PAS was available on the Limited Edition cars in 1989 on both 1.6's and 1.9's. I think it then became an option. The later cars seem to have the PAS after say K reg.I think the main reason you don't see many around now is a combination of them being crashed or just used until they broke and thrown-away (or broken to make another car better).
Nothing wrong with the 1.6 - arguably the better balanced of the 2 anyway.
PAS? Only on 1.9s I thought and pretty rare - and horrible, frankly.
This is a proper car, requires strength to drive it (the steering doesn't really lighten up much although it's not as bad as the 1.9 which wore wider rubber)! Has no cupholders, GPS or other unessential nannying s
![](/inc/images/censored.gif)
![smile](/inc/images/smile.gif)
p.s. I'd not worry too much about the sunroof - it will already be leaking water via the aerial (right onto the remote locking circuit board if fitted) anyway
![smile](/inc/images/smile.gif)
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Edited by johnpeat on Friday 9th December 14:00
Personally i thought the pas wasn't too bad, I think it was well weighted. I have a non pas one now but they are both ok.
johnpeat said:
...PAS? Only on 1.9s I thought and pretty rare - and horrible, frankly...
My 1.6 had it. Mine was a J reg too, so maybe it was a late option?You could stall the engine by going to full lock if it wasn't warmed up...
As someone else said, parking it felt like an oil tanker even with the PAS, but when you were giving it some a small input seemed to have a /big/ effect - sneeze on the motorway and you change lanes!
Really loved that thing though
A request to the SOTW team please.
From now on can you only feature cars either in Kent or central London. Also, please send the article to me at least two days before general publication for the purposes of proof reading. That should give me enough notice to check them out, ahem - the article I mean, check the article.
thanks,
Moospeed
From now on can you only feature cars either in Kent or central London. Also, please send the article to me at least two days before general publication for the purposes of proof reading. That should give me enough notice to check them out, ahem - the article I mean, check the article.
thanks,
Moospeed
PSBuckshot said:
Well it's cheaper but still £1200
I'm only 20 but that's still very very expensive.
I'd be surprised if you could insure a comparable (power/weight) car for less - say a modern Cliosport or Corsa VXR...I'm only 20 but that's still very very expensive.
The value of the car really isn't the issue y'see - it's the damage you will do to others with it.
Had a bit of a thing for pugs back in the day, went up the range as money let me.
205 gti / cti. 309 gti and then a 405 Mi16. I think in the future the 309/405 will be the most collectable, rare as hens teeth these days where as still see quite a few 205's for sale, 309 was the best of the bunch, amazing handling, good performance and a nicer place to be, 205 was more fun, but no way a 205 would keep up with a well driven 309. Still if i had a garage to put it in i'd get any one of them to keep.
205 gti / cti. 309 gti and then a 405 Mi16. I think in the future the 309/405 will be the most collectable, rare as hens teeth these days where as still see quite a few 205's for sale, 309 was the best of the bunch, amazing handling, good performance and a nicer place to be, 205 was more fun, but no way a 205 would keep up with a well driven 309. Still if i had a garage to put it in i'd get any one of them to keep.
r1ch said:
PAS was available on the Limited Edition cars in 1989 on both 1.6's and 1.9's. I think it then became an option. The later cars seem to have the PAS after say K reg.
Personally i thought the pas wasn't too bad, I think it was well weighted. I have a non pas one now but they are both ok.
Back in the day I decided I needed one of these but after a test-drive in a 1.9 which demonstrated a car you needed to be Conan to park (and wasn't actually much easier to steer at speed) I decided a PAS model was called-for.Personally i thought the pas wasn't too bad, I think it was well weighted. I have a non pas one now but they are both ok.
In 4 months of searching I only found 1 - a 1.9 - and the steering was horridly feeling-free (as were most PAS cars in those days ofc) and yes, it would stall the car on full lock
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Must be a late-late option and hence most will have sunroofs and that blue paint then
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I bought a Cherry Red 1.6 GTi in the summer, and it’s a great little shed.
It even comes complete with a ‘no hole’ parcel shelf (worth £1,000,000 on its own).
I’ve done a couple of Autosolo events in it and have enjoyed every minute.
I keep thinking of a RWD shed, but I may just throw some money at the 20 year old suspension instead.
It even comes complete with a ‘no hole’ parcel shelf (worth £1,000,000 on its own).
I’ve done a couple of Autosolo events in it and have enjoyed every minute.
I keep thinking of a RWD shed, but I may just throw some money at the 20 year old suspension instead.
Nath88n said:
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Nuff said.
Moospeed said:
A request to the SOTW team please.
From now on can you only feature cars either in Kent or central London. Also, please send the article to me at least two days before general publication for the purposes of proof reading. That should give me enough notice to check them out, ahem - the article I mean, check the article.
thanks,
Moospeed
When the new classifieds goes live you'll be able to search for almost exactly that From now on can you only feature cars either in Kent or central London. Also, please send the article to me at least two days before general publication for the purposes of proof reading. That should give me enough notice to check them out, ahem - the article I mean, check the article.
thanks,
Moospeed
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