RE: Spotted: Lotus Cortina Mk2

RE: Spotted: Lotus Cortina Mk2

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The Donster

164 posts

206 months

Friday 27th July 2012
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Re. Jeff Uren and Savage conversions, didn't they also do a V6 one for the Corsair or was my dad lying when he told me he had one of these (as well as a MkII Cortina Lotus wink)?

Liquid Knight

15,754 posts

184 months

Friday 27th July 2012
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21st century Savage with an Jag' spec' Duratec V6 turbo? scratchchin

LuS1fer

41,158 posts

246 months

Friday 27th July 2012
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The Donster said:
Re. Jeff Uren and Savage conversions, didn't they also do a V6 one for the Corsair or was my dad lying when he told me he had one of these (as well as a MkII Cortina Lotus wink)?
I have seen a Corsair with a 3 litre V6 fitted but they were not common. The Corsair was basically a Cortina underneath and Crayford and Uren did conversions. However, the Corsair was always totally overshadowed by the Cortina so it was logical to concentrate on that. The Corsair alos came in 2000E form which used a 2.0 V4 and the V4 was basically a V6 with 2 cylinders missing so conversions were probably not that difficult and the limitation would be obtaining the then new V6 engines to fit in the cars.

Liquid Knight

15,754 posts

184 months

Friday 27th July 2012
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It's a shame because the Corsair was such a prettier car than the 'tina.

Blue One

467 posts

180 months

Friday 27th July 2012
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Strange the 0-60 time shown is about the same as the original set-up, surely with all mods at least a few seconds should be shaved off the time. Having also owned a Mk2 'Lotus' aka Twincam, they were good cars for their time, but only with significant mods can they compete with performance motors of the last 30 years. Not worth it really....

AllNines

346 posts

183 months

Friday 27th July 2012
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redvictor said:
AllNines said:
Oh, and taking the Lotus bits away from the genuine article would be sad. Please don't do it, people!
I can never get this^^^^^^^^

If you pay for a car what has anyone's opinion got to do with anything?
You have the right to do whatever you please to the car.

The Cortina is a lovely bit of kit. Modern mechanicals in a classic car are all you could ever want in life surely? biggrin
And I can't believe that people would consider doing such a thing to an icon. Reducing the number of genuine cars when you could instead (as the guy who built the car in question did) build up a 'lesser' model.

robinessex

11,083 posts

182 months

Friday 27th July 2012
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While all the 'horrors' of guys bdising Lotus Cortinas (or name derivatives of those two words ), I'll confess to stuffing a Rover V8/Jag manual box into a Mk 1 Lotus Cortina (a red one) in circa 1970 !! I sort of saw the errors of my ways, and hauled it out to then install a BDA engine. That project fizzled out, and I sold the whole car, engine and bits to a friend, who plonked his original TC engine in it. That was the last I hear until it was 'found' a few months ago, and is now being restored to original (not by me) state. Happy ending.

Simon says

18,976 posts

222 months

Friday 27th July 2012
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Blue One said:
Strange the 0-60 time shown is about the same as the original set-up, surely with all mods at least a few seconds should be shaved off the time. Having also owned a Mk2 'Lotus' aka Twincam, they were good cars for their time, but only with significant mods can they compete with performance motors of the last 30 years. Not worth it really....
yes That should be a sub 6 sec 0-60 IMO especially with a LSD and weight not to far off the S2000, I don't get all the original bit the Lotus engine was always under powered and over rated in this weight car it's only when you throw shed loads at it that it becomes interesting and in this Honda company is not even in the same ball park hand built/prepped or otherwise wink once the bonnet is closed what's the difference confused and at least it's more reliable which means a lot I think scratchchin

Blue One

467 posts

180 months

Friday 27th July 2012
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EEEKKK!!!(apologies if someone has already spotted this) but it doesn't have a proper dash - ALL Mk 2 Cortina Lotus/Twincams had four ancillary clocks a la 1600E with series 1 having the binicle on top of the dash, series 2 along the dash.

Would really have thought the chap would have had this covered given the thorough job he seems to have done otherwise - a non-four clock dash could mean it is a standard car...

Thoughts anyone?

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/largepic.asp?i=40...

The Donster

164 posts

206 months

Friday 27th July 2012
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LuS1fer said:
The Donster said:
Re. Jeff Uren and Savage conversions, didn't they also do a V6 one for the Corsair or was my dad lying when he told me he had one of these (as well as a MkII Cortina Lotus wink)?
I have seen a Corsair with a 3 litre V6 fitted but they were not common. The Corsair was basically a Cortina underneath and Crayford and Uren did conversions. However, the Corsair was always totally overshadowed by the Cortina so it was logical to concentrate on that. The Corsair alos came in 2000E form which used a 2.0 V4 and the V4 was basically a V6 with 2 cylinders missing so conversions were probably not that difficult and the limitation would be obtaining the then new V6 engines to fit in the cars.
Thanks for the clarification. The car in question is actually in their wedding photos from 1973 (canary yellow - de rigour back in the day wink) so I was certain this was a legit conversion, but trying to find info on Corsair Savages is difficult. My mind is now at rest. Ta muchly. smile

LuS1fer

41,158 posts

246 months

Friday 27th July 2012
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Blue One said:
EEEKKK!!!(apologies if someone has already spotted this) but it doesn't have a proper dash - ALL Mk 2 Cortina Lotus/Twincams had four ancillary clocks a la 1600E with series 1 having the binicle on top of the dash, series 2 along the dash.

Would really have thought the chap would have had this covered given the thorough job he seems to have done otherwise - a non-four clock dash could mean it is a standard car...

Thoughts anyone?

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/largepic.asp?i=40...
That's right. My father's 67 GT also had black painted interior door tops and there is a centre console missing too. However, it is at least possible that he's replaced the top dash pad given some of the instruments therein are historic - such as the ammeter so it may have made more sense to use modern gauges for the VTEC installation.

k-ink

9,070 posts

180 months

Friday 27th July 2012
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I first saw this advertised for £9000. It was snapped up by a dealer and marked up at double the price. So I'd say there is a huge amount of room for negotiation.

MoBeanz

135 posts

171 months

Friday 27th July 2012
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If I win the Lotto tonight, this S2000 powered Mk2 will be mine tomorrow.

redvictor

3,152 posts

238 months

Friday 27th July 2012
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AllNines said:
And I can't believe that people would consider doing such a thing to an icon. Reducing the number of genuine cars when you could instead (as the guy who built the car in question did) build up a 'lesser' model.
Well,if it was mine anyone commenting would have no say what so ever in what i did to it. The only time there would be a say is if that person was paying for anything to be done on the vehicle.

When you own something,what ever it is,it's your property,to do with as you wish.
There is no-one on this earth who could tell me what i could do to the car that i own, icon or not.



Liquid Knight

15,754 posts

184 months

Friday 27th July 2012
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redvictor said:
Well,if it was mine anyone commenting would have no say what so ever in what i did to it. The only time there would be a say is if that person was paying for anything to be done on the vehicle.

When you own something,what ever it is,it's your property,to do with as you wish.
There is no-one on this earth who could tell me what i could do to the car that i own, icon or not.
Exactly how I felt about my MGB. So here's hypertypical Pistionheads....

+1 smile


LuS1fer

41,158 posts

246 months

Friday 27th July 2012
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Simon says said:
Blue One said:
Strange the 0-60 time shown is about the same as the original set-up, surely with all mods at least a few seconds should be shaved off the time. Having also owned a Mk2 'Lotus' aka Twincam, they were good cars for their time, but only with significant mods can they compete with performance motors of the last 30 years. Not worth it really....
yes That should be a sub 6 sec 0-60 IMO especially with a LSD and weight not to far off the S2000, I don't get all the original bit the Lotus engine was always under powered and over rated in this weight car it's only when you throw shed loads at it that it becomes interesting and in this Honda company is not even in the same ball park hand built/prepped or otherwise wink once the bonnet is closed what's the difference confused and at least it's more reliable which means a lot I think scratchchin
The figures shown ARE for the original car - this car won't have been tested, will it? smile

Simon says

18,976 posts

222 months

Friday 27th July 2012
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LuS1fer said:
Simon says said:
Blue One said:
Strange the 0-60 time shown is about the same as the original set-up, surely with all mods at least a few seconds should be shaved off the time. Having also owned a Mk2 'Lotus' aka Twincam, they were good cars for their time, but only with significant mods can they compete with performance motors of the last 30 years. Not worth it really....
yes That should be a sub 6 sec 0-60 IMO especially with a LSD and weight not to far off the S2000, I don't get all the original bit the Lotus engine was always under powered and over rated in this weight car it's only when you throw shed loads at it that it becomes interesting and in this Honda company is not even in the same ball park hand built/prepped or otherwise wink once the bonnet is closed what's the difference confused and at least it's more reliable which means a lot I think scratchchin
The figures shown ARE for the original car - this car won't have been tested, will it? smile
It was only an observation i.e it should be sub blah blah wink I bet it sounds the nuts on full bore cloud9 the induction roar the big H can create on full chat are easily a match for Lotus side-draughts scratchchin


Edited by Simon says on Friday 27th July 15:23

m8rky

2,090 posts

160 months

Friday 27th July 2012
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Liquid Knight said:
It's a shame because the Corsair was such a prettier car than the 'tina.
It.s just a shame a lot got used in the Kitcar,The Pubic,made out of old Corsairs . laughbiglaughsmashgetmecoat

Legacywr

12,220 posts

189 months

Saturday 28th July 2012
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Did someone mention the Savage Cortina?smile







I was also offered this Viva today... at less than a third of the OP Mk2, and I know which one I would rather buy!








Simon says

18,976 posts

222 months

Saturday 28th July 2012
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I was also offered this Viva today... at less than a third of the OP Mk2, and I know which one I would rather buy!








[/quote]Like that Viva thumbup shame it does not where the correct louvered bonnet frown