Brake want to ban hands free phones
Discussion
It depends on the conversation.
Calling home to tell my wife what time I'm due home whilst on the motorway is not that distracting.
Having a colleague or customer call and ask a technical question whilst I am negotiating an unfamiliar roundabout is distracting.
I use my judgement which call to take.
Steve
Calling home to tell my wife what time I'm due home whilst on the motorway is not that distracting.
Having a colleague or customer call and ask a technical question whilst I am negotiating an unfamiliar roundabout is distracting.
I use my judgement which call to take.
Steve
I've never used a handset at the wheel but this morning I had to make a business call from the car - I was stuck in traffic, creeping forward.
I've always been of the opinion that drivers who use a mobile whilst driving are knobs but this morning I managed to make a phonecall without killing any local schoolchildren or nearly crashing into the scenery.
I don't think there should be an outright ban, but evidently this comes down to the common sense thing - some people will still hold a phone to their ear and steer with their elbow whilst negotiating a roundabout.
I've always been of the opinion that drivers who use a mobile whilst driving are knobs but this morning I managed to make a phonecall without killing any local schoolchildren or nearly crashing into the scenery.
I don't think there should be an outright ban, but evidently this comes down to the common sense thing - some people will still hold a phone to their ear and steer with their elbow whilst negotiating a roundabout.
TBH many (in fact most) of you are as bad as, if not worse than BRAKE.
Reactionary, over opinionated nonsense and an absolute certainty that you are RIGHT.
IMO that's a bigger reason we see so much bad driving than anything else - people who just cannot self criticise and will not adapt or learn.
"I'm an awesome driver who can do 34 things at once no problem."
Say you get a call from your boss (if you have one) or a key client - can you REALLY tell me you can fully concentrate while driving? Can you take notes if needed? Can you remember the important parts of the conversation? Would it perhaps be better to call back with a notepad a minute or two later when pulled over? Or are you too important to take part in such trivial matters?
As someone mentioned, a passenger will react to the conditions, a caller won't.
Too many of you have your head stuck up your backsides with driving and that is more of a danger than anyone will care to imagine.
Reactionary, over opinionated nonsense and an absolute certainty that you are RIGHT.
IMO that's a bigger reason we see so much bad driving than anything else - people who just cannot self criticise and will not adapt or learn.
"I'm an awesome driver who can do 34 things at once no problem."
Say you get a call from your boss (if you have one) or a key client - can you REALLY tell me you can fully concentrate while driving? Can you take notes if needed? Can you remember the important parts of the conversation? Would it perhaps be better to call back with a notepad a minute or two later when pulled over? Or are you too important to take part in such trivial matters?
As someone mentioned, a passenger will react to the conditions, a caller won't.
Too many of you have your head stuck up your backsides with driving and that is more of a danger than anyone will care to imagine.
Vladimir said:
TBH many (in fact most) of you are as bad as, if not worse than BRAKE.
Reactionary, over opinionated nonsense and an absolute certainty that you are RIGHT.
IMO that's a bigger reason we see so much bad driving than anything else - people who just cannot self criticise and will not adapt or learn.
"I'm an awesome driver who can do 34 things at once no problem."
Say you get a call from your boss (if you have one) or a key client - can you REALLY tell me you can fully concentrate while driving? Can you take notes if needed? Can you remember the important parts of the conversation? Would it perhaps be better to call back with a notepad a minute or two later when pulled over? Or are you too important to take part in such trivial matters?
As someone mentioned, a passenger will react to the conditions, a caller won't.
Too many of you have your head stuck up your backsides with driving and that is more of a danger than anyone will care to imagine.
Reactionary, over opinionated nonsense and an absolute certainty that you are RIGHT.
IMO that's a bigger reason we see so much bad driving than anything else - people who just cannot self criticise and will not adapt or learn.
"I'm an awesome driver who can do 34 things at once no problem."
Say you get a call from your boss (if you have one) or a key client - can you REALLY tell me you can fully concentrate while driving? Can you take notes if needed? Can you remember the important parts of the conversation? Would it perhaps be better to call back with a notepad a minute or two later when pulled over? Or are you too important to take part in such trivial matters?
As someone mentioned, a passenger will react to the conditions, a caller won't.
Too many of you have your head stuck up your backsides with driving and that is more of a danger than anyone will care to imagine.
Incomming!
Brake want to ban hands free phones...
...not really. I think it's more:
Brake want to ban anything that might, possibly, on a bad day, if one is unlucky, increase risk.
This will include Phones, radios, communication with passengers (they'll have to be physically separated from the driver), all controls other than the brake pedal, wheel and indicators. Acceleration will be at a fixed rate when the brake is not applied, and no driver may drive for more than 20 minutes in case of tiredness or other medical problems. The fixed rate of acceleration will be 1 mph per minute.
...not really. I think it's more:
Brake want to ban anything that might, possibly, on a bad day, if one is unlucky, increase risk.
This will include Phones, radios, communication with passengers (they'll have to be physically separated from the driver), all controls other than the brake pedal, wheel and indicators. Acceleration will be at a fixed rate when the brake is not applied, and no driver may drive for more than 20 minutes in case of tiredness or other medical problems. The fixed rate of acceleration will be 1 mph per minute.
Harji said:
Not read everything, but the only reason this can possibly news is that it comes from Manchester and the BBC have upped sticks to Manchester. Notice how all there "experts" are from Manchester? Nothing against the Mancs at all but it's lacklustre approach to the BBC breakfast news that has stopped me watching it.
If they were in London, their researchers would have had far more bits of news to chase and this Brake bit would never had made it.
Rubbish.If they were in London, their researchers would have had far more bits of news to chase and this Brake bit would never had made it.
Vladimir said:
TBH many (in fact most) of you are as bad as, if not worse than BRAKE.
Reactionary, over opinionated nonsense and an absolute certainty that you are RIGHT.
IMO that's a bigger reason we see so much bad driving than anything else - people who just cannot self criticise and will not adapt or learn.
"I'm an awesome driver who can do 34 things at once no problem."
Say you get a call from your boss (if you have one) or a key client - can you REALLY tell me you can fully concentrate while driving? Can you take notes if needed? Can you remember the important parts of the conversation? Would it perhaps be better to call back with a notepad a minute or two later when pulled over? Or are you too important to take part in such trivial matters?
As someone mentioned, a passenger will react to the conditions, a caller won't.
Too many of you have your head stuck up your backsides with driving and that is more of a danger than anyone will care to imagine.
I pretty much agree with this.Reactionary, over opinionated nonsense and an absolute certainty that you are RIGHT.
IMO that's a bigger reason we see so much bad driving than anything else - people who just cannot self criticise and will not adapt or learn.
"I'm an awesome driver who can do 34 things at once no problem."
Say you get a call from your boss (if you have one) or a key client - can you REALLY tell me you can fully concentrate while driving? Can you take notes if needed? Can you remember the important parts of the conversation? Would it perhaps be better to call back with a notepad a minute or two later when pulled over? Or are you too important to take part in such trivial matters?
As someone mentioned, a passenger will react to the conditions, a caller won't.
Too many of you have your head stuck up your backsides with driving and that is more of a danger than anyone will care to imagine.
I have to say, with passengers or a radio or whatever in the car, my driving isn't compromised at all, however, when I'm having a phone call through my cars Bluetooth system, I have a very hard time concentrating and I definitely feel that the quality of my driving drops.
I don't make or take calls in the car any more - unless I believe it could be an emergency based on the time of day and the number calling me.
I don't make or take calls in the car any more - unless I believe it could be an emergency based on the time of day and the number calling me.
Vladimir said:
TBH many (in fact most) of you are as bad as, if not worse than BRAKE.
Reactionary, over opinionated nonsense and an absolute certainty that you are RIGHT.
IMO that's a bigger reason we see so much bad driving than anything else - people who just cannot self criticise and will not adapt or learn.
"I'm an awesome driver who can do 34 things at once no problem."
Say you get a call from your boss (if you have one) or a key client - can you REALLY tell me you can fully concentrate while driving? Can you take notes if needed? Can you remember the important parts of the conversation? Would it perhaps be better to call back with a notepad a minute or two later when pulled over? Or are you too important to take part in such trivial matters?
As someone mentioned, a passenger will react to the conditions, a caller won't.
Too many of you have your head stuck up your backsides with driving and that is more of a danger than anyone will care to imagine.
You see the thing I love about the mobile phone, is it is a two-way communication device, so if I'm coming up to a challenging roundabout or junction, I can tell the other party - hang on a minute, roundabout. If they want to have a technical conversation, I ask them if we can discuss later when I'm not driving. If the missus wants to tell me how her day's been - well I let her as I don't really listen anyway. Reactionary, over opinionated nonsense and an absolute certainty that you are RIGHT.
IMO that's a bigger reason we see so much bad driving than anything else - people who just cannot self criticise and will not adapt or learn.
"I'm an awesome driver who can do 34 things at once no problem."
Say you get a call from your boss (if you have one) or a key client - can you REALLY tell me you can fully concentrate while driving? Can you take notes if needed? Can you remember the important parts of the conversation? Would it perhaps be better to call back with a notepad a minute or two later when pulled over? Or are you too important to take part in such trivial matters?
As someone mentioned, a passenger will react to the conditions, a caller won't.
Too many of you have your head stuck up your backsides with driving and that is more of a danger than anyone will care to imagine.
So frankly no, I don't really see the danger with hands-free kits. I find the process of answering a call no mor etaxing than turning the air con on and off. Or do they want to ban that as well.
bodhi said:
You see the thing I love about the mobile phone, is it is a two-way communication device, so if I'm coming up to a challenging roundabout or junction, I can tell the other party - hang on a minute, roundabout. If they want to have a technical conversation, I ask them if we can discuss later when I'm not driving. If the missus wants to tell me how her day's been - well I let her as I don't really listen anyway.
So frankly no, I don't really see the danger with hands-free kits. I find the process of answering a call no mor etaxing than turning the air con on and off. Or do they want to ban that as well.
That begs the question, why can't the same be done with a hand held device? So frankly no, I don't really see the danger with hands-free kits. I find the process of answering a call no mor etaxing than turning the air con on and off. Or do they want to ban that as well.
Had a good laugh at their website...
Slow
Drivers – I'll stay under limits, and slow down to 20mph around schools, homes and shops to protect others. I'll slow right down for bends, brows and bad weather, and avoid overtaking.
Everyone – I'll speak out for slowing down and help drivers understand that the slower they drive, the more chance they have of avoiding a crash and saving a life.
Yeah I agree, 20mph around schools but... I'll slow right down for bends, brows and bad weather, and avoid overtaking. Morons that stick to that like the one I got stuck behind the other day not overtaking a tractor on a perfectly straight well sighted dry road should stick to the bus.
Slow
Drivers – I'll stay under limits, and slow down to 20mph around schools, homes and shops to protect others. I'll slow right down for bends, brows and bad weather, and avoid overtaking.
Everyone – I'll speak out for slowing down and help drivers understand that the slower they drive, the more chance they have of avoiding a crash and saving a life.
Yeah I agree, 20mph around schools but... I'll slow right down for bends, brows and bad weather, and avoid overtaking. Morons that stick to that like the one I got stuck behind the other day not overtaking a tractor on a perfectly straight well sighted dry road should stick to the bus.
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