RE: NSX worth the wait? PH Blog
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RDMcG said:
No idea how good it is, but ,like the McLaren when it was introduced, it does seem somewhat generic. I have not warmed to the appearance of either, but obviously the real answers will be when it gets a few comprehensive road tests. Based purely on the intro, found it a mild yawn.
Yet you seem to love the ever so unique Porsche range?? How on earth can you find this a mild yawn when it seems you have shares in one of the dullest looking and reserved manufactures in this segment? vz-r_dave said:
MarshPhantom said:
The last one was hardly a big hit, despite the links with Senna. Can't see this doing too well.
Why?Good isn't really in the equation.
And the links with Senna don't really mean anything. The best chassis engineer in the world is a chap we'll never hear about, but he'll be much better at making a sports car drive well than Ayrton Senna would have been.
SpeckledJim said:
vz-r_dave said:
MarshPhantom said:
The last one was hardly a big hit, despite the links with Senna. Can't see this doing too well.
Why?Good isn't really in the equation.
And the links with Senna don't really mean anything. The best chassis engineer in the world is a chap we'll never hear about, but he'll be much better at making a sports car drive well than Ayrton Senna would have been.
Derek Chevalier said:
Not massively convinced it wasn't appealing even towards the end
http://www.z06vette.com/forums/f4/best-enemies-148...
For a few, it was. For the majority of the market, it wasn't. I don't agree with the market, but I wasn't in a position to buy one, then or now.http://www.z06vette.com/forums/f4/best-enemies-148...
MB 1 said:
The biggest failing is making it under the Acura brand, and making it in the US.
Massive mistake.
They have a massive engineering and R&D operation in the US, build a lot of their cars there, and have a racetrack very close buy, which they own, and are able to use as needed to develop the car. It made total sense, especially since they're Japanese R&D facilities are spending most of their time focusing on fuel cell development and the like.Massive mistake.
juicy sushi said:
MB 1 said:
The biggest failing is making it under the Acura brand, and making it in the US.
Massive mistake.
They have a massive engineering and R&D operation in the US, build a lot of their cars there, and have a racetrack very close buy, which they own, and are able to use as needed to develop the car. It made total sense, especially since they're Japanese R&D facilities are spending most of their time focusing on fuel cell development and the like.Massive mistake.
Perhaps they are looking to leverage the NSX to boost/introduce the brand into Europe?
vz-r_dave said:
SpeckledJim said:
vz-r_dave said:
MarshPhantom said:
The last one was hardly a big hit, despite the links with Senna. Can't see this doing too well.
Why?Good isn't really in the equation.
And the links with Senna don't really mean anything. The best chassis engineer in the world is a chap we'll never hear about, but he'll be much better at making a sports car drive well than Ayrton Senna would have been.
vz-r_dave said:
juicy sushi said:
MB 1 said:
The biggest failing is making it under the Acura brand, and making it in the US.
Massive mistake.
They have a massive engineering and R&D operation in the US, build a lot of their cars there, and have a racetrack very close buy, which they own, and are able to use as needed to develop the car. It made total sense, especially since they're Japanese R&D facilities are spending most of their time focusing on fuel cell development and the like.Massive mistake.
Perhaps they are looking to leverage the NSX to boost/introduce the Acura brand into Europe?
RichwiththeS2000 said:
Too much tech in the NSX. 10 years down the line (when I might be able to afford one), the batteries will all be shot, the convoluted electric motors and accompanying transmission will be a mess of broken sensors and failing parts. The jagged polygon lines of the body will age terribly, too.
The GT is simple, to the point, and much better looking IMO!
Making a note to come back in 2025 to see if I was right ;-)
I'd argue the opposite would be the more likely scenario. The original NSX was a pretty tough old thing and generally Hondas do well in reliability studies. The last GT on the other hand had a slightly suspect reputation, reliability wise didn't it?The GT is simple, to the point, and much better looking IMO!
Making a note to come back in 2025 to see if I was right ;-)
Looks wise, I don't mind the new NSX although the GT has more of a wow-factor. Is it just me or does the GT look vast by comparison? In shots where they are occupied, the NSX looks compact while the GT occupant looks lost in there.
MarshPhantom said:
exceed said:
Also is anyone missing the fact that this is essentially the competitor for the BMW i8?
The NSX is £50k more than the i8. The BMW looks amazing. It has been lauded because it is innovative, but it ain't no sportscar. It's not fun to drive in a conventional sense (it is inert and understeers) and the gearbox is not very good.
SpeckledJim said:
vz-r_dave said:
SpeckledJim said:
vz-r_dave said:
MarshPhantom said:
The last one was hardly a big hit, despite the links with Senna. Can't see this doing too well.
Why?Good isn't really in the equation.
And the links with Senna don't really mean anything. The best chassis engineer in the world is a chap we'll never hear about, but he'll be much better at making a sports car drive well than Ayrton Senna would have been.
vz-r_dave said:
SpeckledJim said:
vz-r_dave said:
SpeckledJim said:
vz-r_dave said:
MarshPhantom said:
The last one was hardly a big hit, despite the links with Senna. Can't see this doing too well.
Why?Good isn't really in the equation.
And the links with Senna don't really mean anything. The best chassis engineer in the world is a chap we'll never hear about, but he'll be much better at making a sports car drive well than Ayrton Senna would have been.
Which would you say is 'doing' better - the 911 or the GTR?
vz-r_dave said:
juicy sushi said:
MB 1 said:
The biggest failing is making it under the Acura brand, and making it in the US.
Massive mistake.
They have a massive engineering and R&D operation in the US, build a lot of their cars there, and have a racetrack very close buy, which they own, and are able to use as needed to develop the car. It made total sense, especially since they're Japanese R&D facilities are spending most of their time focusing on fuel cell development and the like.Massive mistake.
Perhaps they are looking to leverage the NSX to boost/introduce the brand into Europe?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BdLmFWrYfo
The question of weight was nicely dodged for the moment...
British Beef said:
I think that Ford GT is stunning and the most ground breaking design in a long while, certainly more interesting than the mainstream supercars from Mclaren, Ferrari, Porsche and even Lamborgini IMO.
The fact it comes with no Hybrid BS is an extra bonus as far as I am concerned!
Agree I think Honda must be fuming at Ford as I personally feel the GT has made this look very ordinary...The fact it comes with no Hybrid BS is an extra bonus as far as I am concerned!
yonex said:
SpeckledJim said:
The GTR is a perfect example of my argument, thanks, since it has been comfortably outsold by the arguably inferior but better-looking and better-badged Porsche 911.
People still buy based on badges. Seriously?
Seriously?
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