RE: Hyundai i30 N full details
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kapiteinlangzaam said:
I dont care how many BHP its got, nearly 30k GBP for a Hyundai i30 is pushing 'interesting/comical' pricing territory in my eyes.
Might be a great car, but ill be gobsmacked if they sell any.
I paid £28.5k for my m135i fully spec apart from sunroof. Makes £30k for the i30 N rather expensive in my eyes. Might be a great car, but ill be gobsmacked if they sell any.
Edited by Markbarry1977 on Saturday 15th July 13:43
aaron_2000 said:
Truckosaurus said:
On the subject of selling performance cars from a brand with no 'history':
Subaru managed to do it in the mid-nineties with the first Impreza Turbo. They had a reputation for making decent farmer's cars, the Legacy turbo didn't especially set the world on fire even with a decent amount of WRC in those days. But somehow they hit the sweet spot with the Impreza. Offering a turbo 200bhp and 4wd when all the other hot hatches were FWD, naturally aspirated and 150bhp. Colin McRae's exploits helped, especially in the UK.
To do the same Hyundai need to be selling their Focus RS/Golf R equivalent for the price of a base ST or GTi.
Offering their typical 7-yr warranty will help residuals for PCP/Lease deals.
I'd say the reason the Subaru did well is A.) Thanks to McRae and B.) Because it was massive performance for a lower price. Under 6 seconds to 60 with 5 seats and a boot, plus real 4WD and the price it was at. I reckon the Hyundai could do well, as long as they price it right. Subaru managed to do it in the mid-nineties with the first Impreza Turbo. They had a reputation for making decent farmer's cars, the Legacy turbo didn't especially set the world on fire even with a decent amount of WRC in those days. But somehow they hit the sweet spot with the Impreza. Offering a turbo 200bhp and 4wd when all the other hot hatches were FWD, naturally aspirated and 150bhp. Colin McRae's exploits helped, especially in the UK.
To do the same Hyundai need to be selling their Focus RS/Golf R equivalent for the price of a base ST or GTi.
Offering their typical 7-yr warranty will help residuals for PCP/Lease deals.
It was also relatively (but not very) cheap.
Markbarry1977 said:
I paid £28.5k for my m135i fully spec apart from sunroof. Makes £30k for the i30 N rather expensive in my eyes.
Aren't you comparing the discounted price you got with an unofficial list price of up to £30k ? Maybe wait until there's an official price and discounts first..Edited by Markbarry1977 on Saturday 15th July 13:43
rscott said:
Markbarry1977 said:
I paid £28.5k for my m135i fully spec apart from sunroof. Makes £30k for the i30 N rather expensive in my eyes.
Aren't you comparing the discounted price you got with an unofficial list price of up to £30k ? Maybe wait until there's an official price and discounts first..Edited by Markbarry1977 on Saturday 15th July 13:43
t I had the misfortune of buying and I'm not confident about there reliability. Must have lost the plot if you think this isn't a good thing. Car looks great, not sure on that colour though! Wish I could justify the money for a 30k car.
I think the current 'warm' versions of the i20 and i30 look great and these are even better.
A few decent hatches on the way; this and the Yaris being the most anticipated for me. I might consider the Yaris for my next car actually, if it isn't too expensive.
I think the current 'warm' versions of the i20 and i30 look great and these are even better.
A few decent hatches on the way; this and the Yaris being the most anticipated for me. I might consider the Yaris for my next car actually, if it isn't too expensive.
aaron_2000 said:
How are you a "badge snob" for driving a VW? The Golf is a Focus rival, not an A-Class/1 Series/A3 rival. I wouldn't exactly think someone was swimming in it if they told me they drive a VW 
I'm not sure VW are perceived any differently from any other mid market manufacturer these days. Most of my friends and neighbours would fawn over a 1.4TDI A4, but if I pulled up in a Golf Clubsport S they wouldn't bat an eyelid, they wouldn't see it any differently than if it was a 1.0 Focus.I guess the point is that Hyundai are still thought of as a budget, low end car manufacturer. There is the potential to have a very good product here, but for it to be successful it needs to compete on a higher level, where performance is paramount. The chances of it offering a complete package like the GTI are pretty slim IMO.
rscott said:
theplayingmantis said:
Its what Hyundai/KIA do. Look at the ridiculous Stinger they ripped off Audi. The Koreans havent had an original idea in design. Its just white goods so they just rip everyone else off. Its not necessarily a negative. Just a fact.
When did Audi last create an original design? Their entire range is pretty much the same design just scaled up or down a bit (and stretched vertically to make the Q variants).Hyundai have come on leaps and bounds over the last few years in terms of quality of product and I suspect this will only be the start of the 'N' range. I hope in the next version though they develop design confidence rather than just replicate design aspects of other cars (typically German ones) and do something original.
theplayingmantis said:
ian_c_uk said:
theplayingmantis said:
The Koreans havent had an original idea in design. Its just white goods so they just rip everyone else off. Its not necessarily a negative. Just a fact.
I used them as examples to disprove your point that they never have an original idea and just copy everyone else.
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