RE: Volvo to fit all cars with 112mph speed limiter
Discussion
Guess you missed what's coming down from the EU soon - Intelligent Speed Assistance -
https://etsc.eu/meps-back-life-saving-vehicle-safe...
Fire99 said:
The bigger issue I have with regards to GPS limited speed, is that I'm basically broadcasting to the powers at be where I am at all times.
So some that may not be an issue but for me there is a principal of being free and not being effectively snooped on.
I know when GPS's were first introduced in an old company of mine. The claim was purely to make journeys more efficient for the Technicians etc.. It was a very short time before they were asking why a Technician had stopped at a certain place or allegedly taken a break etc etc...
So it's a direction I'm quite adverse to.
This.So some that may not be an issue but for me there is a principal of being free and not being effectively snooped on.
I know when GPS's were first introduced in an old company of mine. The claim was purely to make journeys more efficient for the Technicians etc.. It was a very short time before they were asking why a Technician had stopped at a certain place or allegedly taken a break etc etc...
So it's a direction I'm quite adverse to.
It isn't the 112mph restriction that is the issue. I don't like the removal of choice. I drive cars that can do a lot more. Do I choose to use it, pretty much no, but I could if I wanted.
I think this is nothing more than a bit of posturing for marketing purposes.
Weirdly the two stand out pieces of really bad driving I've witnessed over the last 12 Months were both new XC90s.
One attempted a multi car overtake on an A road that any sane person would have thought twice about on a Ducati Panigale let alone a horribly underpowered SUV. That nearly resulted in a very nasty head on smash.
Second one was tackling a sharply curved flyover joining a dual carriageway waaaaaaay too fast in the wet resulting in a hilarious tank slapper before the car took control back from its driver and rectified the situation. It was moments away from riding straight over the armco and down onto the carriageway below.
Point being both could have been very nasty accidents but both took place well under 112mph.
Weirdly the two stand out pieces of really bad driving I've witnessed over the last 12 Months were both new XC90s.
One attempted a multi car overtake on an A road that any sane person would have thought twice about on a Ducati Panigale let alone a horribly underpowered SUV. That nearly resulted in a very nasty head on smash.
Second one was tackling a sharply curved flyover joining a dual carriageway waaaaaaay too fast in the wet resulting in a hilarious tank slapper before the car took control back from its driver and rectified the situation. It was moments away from riding straight over the armco and down onto the carriageway below.
Point being both could have been very nasty accidents but both took place well under 112mph.
kambites said:
So you don't want/have ABS or traction control or parking sensors or... in your car then? All systems which exist to help drivers not to make mistakes which they really shouldn't.
engaging the ABS or parking sensors is a real life thing.as opposed to doing 110 mph by mistake.
C70R said:
rykard said:
How many 'accidents' occur above 100mph? This is just headline grabbing, those who think 112 is quick will still buy them...
112mph is quick. It's faster than 99.9999% of UK drivers travel in an average month.Muzzer79 said:
It's a Volvo, not a Ferrari. How many of them do you think actually go above 100mph in their whole life cycle?
Lots, based on the number of XC90s and V60T6'es I see driven with scant respect for fellow motorway users over here (they 'sold' gazillions of the things to user-choosers here because they attracted decimated BIK taxes up until a couple of years ago on the strength of a sub-50g/km CO2 rating).768 said:
C70R said:
rykard said:
How many 'accidents' occur above 100mph? This is just headline grabbing, those who think 112 is quick will still buy them...
112mph is quick. It's faster than 99.9999% of UK drivers travel in an average month.Getting up to 100 from ~70 doesn't take that long, either - Certainly not a supercar by any measure, but still - Capable of doing it if one intends to.
I'd say the vast majority of modern cars can attain ~110; Even the smallest super mini city cars manage 90mph.
The majority of cars, I'd say, can get at least ~125MPH.
Personally, I don't think it's genuinely "quick" unless it's 155mph+ - There aren't many cars that can manage that; And even then it's hardly an unattainable figure - An FK8 CTR will get 168mph for £30K new, and there are plenty of examples of used cars that can manage the same for less outlay.
The other day, making my way down the A127 I was overtaken by a XC90 which was most certainly pushing the above figures; Going along at 90mph or so with it noticeably looming on me, and wafting past with a fair speed differential.
Wont bother me
I cant remember the last time I went over 100, let alone in an overweight volvo and ive driven lots of overweight volvos
Not exactly new, 10 years ago I had a transit limited to 70 mph, which was ironic as the Transit it replaced couldn't hit 70mph when laden up
Will probably be easy enough to remove should you fancy it
I cant remember the last time I went over 100, let alone in an overweight volvo and ive driven lots of overweight volvos
Not exactly new, 10 years ago I had a transit limited to 70 mph, which was ironic as the Transit it replaced couldn't hit 70mph when laden up
Will probably be easy enough to remove should you fancy it
Who owns Volvo? I take it most here have a bit of an idea of the control freaks running the country of origin of the owners.
Surprised?
Its just the beginning, its gonna get a lot more absurd.
Funnily though people in the west actually vote for this crap, they think its cool as can be. You see people wearing t-shirts and hats and all sorts of signs glorifying this.
Spoiled, naive, self hating, virtue signaling turds are begging for this.
Surprised?
Its just the beginning, its gonna get a lot more absurd.
Funnily though people in the west actually vote for this crap, they think its cool as can be. You see people wearing t-shirts and hats and all sorts of signs glorifying this.
Spoiled, naive, self hating, virtue signaling turds are begging for this.
I think most of us keep it below an indicated 100mph on the motorway because of the threat of being banned, but I like the fact that my car is built to do more than 150mph, makes it more comfortable and able at lower speeds, if they limit the speed then they will dumb down on the engineering quality to suit.
kambites said:
I've never driven a road car faster than 112mph anyway, so I couldn't care less.
Approaching Schwedenkreuz and a few other spots at the Ring at over that speed, even in a road car, is an experience that all driving enthusiasts should try, although they would soon be addicted and track day prices would go up...Edited by nickfrog on Monday 4th March 16:14
wab172uk said:
I'd imagine for a small fee £1000+ on the options list, they'll removed this limiter.
Sales in Germany will drop like a stone overnight.
Why? Germany has high road traffic casualty incidents, there is pressure there to reduce that. I do not see this as having any effect in the German market.Sales in Germany will drop like a stone overnight.
Lots of wailing and moaning going on and references to principles blah blah blah. Load of b
ks.
Ask yourself how many times you did over 100 mph on any public road for more than a few seconds or at all. This is license losing territory and on our roads a bit silly.
Also ask yourself if whatever car you drive would somehow be less enjoyable if you couldn’t exceed 100mph. I drive a Gallardo LP570-4 SL and a Mustang GT to put some context on this question. Both very capable of far exceeding 100mph. I don’t think I have ever exceeded 100mph in either on a public road..well maybe one or two times for a little bit...
My point is that it really is no big deal. The most exciting part of driving is acceleration and bendy roads involving lots of downshifting and up shifting, rather than sitting for long distances banging the nuts out of it at 3 figure speeds.
So, as another poster put, 0-80 in 4 seconds...yes please! Top end restriction..whatever. In any event it will be an electronic limit anyway and I am sure there will be plenty of laptop boys that could plug in and turn it off for you.
ks.Ask yourself how many times you did over 100 mph on any public road for more than a few seconds or at all. This is license losing territory and on our roads a bit silly.
Also ask yourself if whatever car you drive would somehow be less enjoyable if you couldn’t exceed 100mph. I drive a Gallardo LP570-4 SL and a Mustang GT to put some context on this question. Both very capable of far exceeding 100mph. I don’t think I have ever exceeded 100mph in either on a public road..well maybe one or two times for a little bit...
My point is that it really is no big deal. The most exciting part of driving is acceleration and bendy roads involving lots of downshifting and up shifting, rather than sitting for long distances banging the nuts out of it at 3 figure speeds.
So, as another poster put, 0-80 in 4 seconds...yes please! Top end restriction..whatever. In any event it will be an electronic limit anyway and I am sure there will be plenty of laptop boys that could plug in and turn it off for you.
modeller said:
Guess you missed what's coming down from the EU soon - Intelligent Speed Assistance -
Good for them. We're not in the EU as of 29/03/19 are we? Perhaps we could become the unlimited capital of Europe and welcome thousands of responsible, brisk drivers from abroad, who can use the throttle and brake intelligently without electronic gadgetry.
However, as it stands, we have a 70mph national limit and roads so full they defy you to try and achieve anything above that. So this really means nothing from Volvo for 99% of UK drivers. If you're concerned, other vehicles are still available.
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