tailing people out of airport car parks

tailing people out of airport car parks

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Shakermaker

11,317 posts

102 months

Wednesday 27th March 2019
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stevemcs said:
I had to drop someone off at Gatwick at the weekend and ended up parking in short stay, in the end it cost £15 but for that I got 4 hours .... most airports offer 2 hours free parking at long term, so if somebody wants to be longer than 5 minutes or doesn't want to pay they can always catch the bus in.

When entering Gatwick the ticket that gets printed has a picture of the front of your car on it.
And its still free to drop off at Gatwick and Heathrow, you just can't leave your car unattended.

anonymous-user

56 months

Wednesday 27th March 2019
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Monkeylegend said:
Yes, they only want you there for 5 mins maximum.
So make it free for 5 minutes.
Cash generating monopoly on a captive market.
Just be honest don't lie and dress it up any other way.

Monkeylegend

26,566 posts

233 months

Wednesday 27th March 2019
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speedyguy said:
Monkeylegend said:
Yes, they only want you there for 5 mins maximum.
So make it free for 5 minutes.
Cash generating monopoly on a captive market.
Just be honest don't lie and dress it up any other way.
That's MAG for you smile

anonymous-user

56 months

Wednesday 27th March 2019
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CS Garth said:
Terminator X said:
Parking charges at an airport are scandalous though, they deserve some form of "punishment" imho.

TX.
They’re not though are they. Say you are dropping 2 people - that’s £2 a head. If it really bothers you use the free transfer if you value money over time.

As usual people want perfect service and can’t even be arsed to a pay a couple of quid a head for it.

It’s peanuts and it enables us to run airports and attract the infrastructure investment we need to sustain and development then. These places need money to run and deliver a return to their investors otherwise they wouldn’t do it. They don’t grow on the magic airport tree.

You want to get to a different continent for £50? Accept you’ll have to coff a pam shriver’s for being dropped. Get the free transfer if you’re that bothered. How to make it back? Don’t then guzzle 3 pints at the Weatherpsoons pre flight wink

Cheap air travel is one of the wonders of the last 20 years and we in the U.K. are blessed with some of the world’s best and cheapest routes - a sense of perspective here doesn’t go amiss
And yet UK airports are some of the scummiest places that exist. Chewing gum on the carpets, rip off parking, and disgusting loos The first impression of the UK when you arrive is not great. It’s all to do with profits, not improving the experience.

Edited by anonymous-user on Wednesday 27th March 19:59

DoubleD

22,154 posts

110 months

Wednesday 27th March 2019
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bulldong said:
And yet UK airports are some of the scummiest places that exist. Chewing gum on the carpets, rip off parking, and disgusting loos The first impression of the UK when you arrive is not great. It’s all to do with profits, not improving the experience.

Edited by bulldong on Wednesday 27th March 19:59
How much profit do these carparks make?

EazyDuz

2,013 posts

110 months

Wednesday 27th March 2019
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designforlife said:
People trying to dick the system like that are part of the reason why prices go up for the rest of us...

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Lmao, its also the reason cancer exists and kittens die rolleyes

Buster73

5,082 posts

155 months

Thursday 28th March 2019
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gazza285 said:
Why? If you don’t like it, don’t park there, and if it upsets you that much, then don’t fly from there. The choice is yours, not theirs.
Picked my parents up from Newcastle airport last week , slight delay in the collection of the bags so we were about 25 minutes in total , just £5.50 for the pleasure.

A minimum charge for drop off or collection is a mere £2.00 a go.

Not really much choice in the matter is there ?





Quick edit , I can park in the short stay car park for a week for £40 to put it into perspective.

Hol

8,419 posts

202 months

Thursday 28th March 2019
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EazyDuz said:
designforlife said:
People trying to dick the system like that are part of the reason why prices go up for the rest of us...

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Lmao, its also the reason cancer exists and kittens die rolleyes
But, you do agree it is a contributor to the reason prices go up?

The question is how much of a percentage is down to a lack of income from people being immoral and how much is down to the operators themselves looking for a quick buck.

I think both groups are parasites and I cant see why so many people wish to openly support the first group.






anonymous-user

56 months

Thursday 28th March 2019
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WCZ said:
I have a friend who's recently done this after a 4 day stay. he didn't pay and just tailed someone out

I'm presuming that the airport carpark will have something in place to detect this but he's so insistent and confident they won't that he's betting me £100 that he won't receive a letter within 3 months

should I take the bet? (he's trustworthy to come good on it if he does get a letter and has paid out on other silly bets between us)
Think I'd rather pay a few quid for the parking than risk not timing it just right and the barrier coming down damaging my car.

anonymous-user

56 months

Thursday 28th March 2019
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DoubleD said:
bulldong said:
And yet UK airports are some of the scummiest places that exist. Chewing gum on the carpets, rip off parking, and disgusting loos The first impression of the UK when you arrive is not great. It’s all to do with profits, not improving the experience.

Edited by anonymous-user on Wednesday 27th March 19:59
How much profit do these carparks make?
Well MAG Development Group EBITDA was £359m in 2018, 22% of total revenue was derived from parking.

Countdown

40,138 posts

198 months

Thursday 28th March 2019
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Hol said:
But, you do agree it is a contributor to the reason prices go up?

The question is how much of a percentage is down to a lack of income from people being immoral and how much is down to the operators themselves looking for a quick buck.

I think both groups are parasites and I cant see why so many people wish to openly support the first group.
I don't agree that the operators are parasites. It's a bit like saying IT contractors are "parasites" because they charge £700/day when a brickie only charges £150/day, or that it's Ok to nick IPhones "because they shouldn't be charging £1000 for a 10xyz". Let's not pretend this is justifiable - whilst it's not the crime of the century, it is "mildly scummy behaviour".... ripping off A.N. Other for personal benefit. Mildly scummy people do it because the risks of getting caught + the likely penalty < costs of paying the parking fee.


Monkeylegend

26,566 posts

233 months

Thursday 28th March 2019
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speedyguy said:
Monkeylegend said:
Yes, they only want you there for 5 mins maximum.
So make it free for 5 minutes.
Cash generating monopoly on a captive market.
Just be honest don't lie and dress it up any other way.
The best way to focus peoples minds is to start charging from the second you enter the drop off area. They will be much keener to get out asap then rather than take the 5 mins free plus some.

anonymous-user

56 months

Thursday 28th March 2019
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Monkeylegend said:
speedyguy said:
Monkeylegend said:
Yes, they only want you there for 5 mins maximum.
So make it free for 5 minutes.
Cash generating monopoly on a captive market.
Just be honest don't lie and dress it up any other way.
The best way to focus peoples minds is to start charging from the second you enter the drop off area. They will be much keener to get out asap then rather than take the 5 mins free plus some.
I think you would find that if it was 5 mins for free and then a fiver, the majority of people would be out within 5 mins.

Monkeylegend

26,566 posts

233 months

Thursday 28th March 2019
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bulldong said:
I think you would find that if it was 5 mins for free and then a fiver, the majority of people would be out within 5 mins.
The problem when you do that is barrier rage at the exit, people desperate to get out to beat the charge, where as if they have to pay from the start they are more accepting.

I have seen many a time when tempers flared out of control at Stansted when there was a big jump in payment by being delayed a few seconds because somebodies card gets rejected at the barrier and they have to start the payment process all over again.

It creates mayhem, cars reversing to get to another exit barrier, fighting over road space, swearing and being abusive towards those who seem to be holding everybody up.

Press the help button and a parking assistant will immediately come to assist,...............not. They stay hidden away and wont go near any trouble.

anonymous-user

56 months

Thursday 28th March 2019
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Monkeylegend said:
bulldong said:
I think you would find that if it was 5 mins for free and then a fiver, the majority of people would be out within 5 mins.
The problem when you do that is barrier rage at the exit, people desperate to get out to beat the charge, where as if they have to pay from the start they are more accepting.

I have seen many a time when tempers flared out of control at Stansted when there was a big jump in payment by being delayed a few seconds because somebodies card gets rejected at the barrier and they have to start the payment process all over again.

It creates mayhem, cars reversing to get to another exit barrier, fighting over road space, swearing and being abusive towards those who seem to be holding everybody up.

Press the help button and a parking assistant will immediately come to assist,...............not. They stay hidden away and wont go near any trouble.
You raise many valid points that I had not yet considered.

fendertele

160 posts

97 months

Thursday 28th March 2019
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its both a money making scheme and way to keep people from parking up and waiting for their late pickup to go and sit elsewhere until they have arrived.

it works... not saying it doesn't pinch paying for a 2 minute pickup... but it helps to make my pickup only 2 minutes instead of having to do circles until a parking spot appears.

I doubt they would chase him up for it tbh…. I've seen people get to the barrier with no money or card on them and the guys patrolling just buzz them through... so I highly doubt they are gonna chase anyone up for it.. unless its a case of I decide if you get a free pass and not you kinda guy which would be fair enough.

DoubleD

22,154 posts

110 months

Thursday 28th March 2019
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bulldong said:
DoubleD said:
bulldong said:
And yet UK airports are some of the scummiest places that exist. Chewing gum on the carpets, rip off parking, and disgusting loos The first impression of the UK when you arrive is not great. It’s all to do with profits, not improving the experience.

Edited by bulldong on Wednesday 27th March 19:59
How much profit do these carparks make?
Well MAG Development Group EBITDA was £359m in 2018, 22% of total revenue was derived from parking.
And what is their profit from that?

Phil Dicky

7,162 posts

265 months

Thursday 28th March 2019
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Cold said:
Shirley someone once said:
Male PA Announcer: The white zone is for immediate loading and unloading of passengers only. There is no stopping in a red zone.
Female PA Announcer: The white zone is for immediate loading and unloading of passengers only. There is no stopping in a red zone.
Male PA Announcer: The red zone is for immediate loading and unloading of passengers only. There is no stopping in a white zone.
Female PA Announcer: No, the white zone is for loading. Now, there is no stopping in a RED zone.
Male PA Announcer: The red zone has always been for loading.
Female PA Announcer: Don't you tell me which zone is for loading, and which zone is for unloading.
Male PA Announcer: Look Betty, don't start up with your white zone sh*t again. There's just no stopping in a white zone.
Female PA Announcer: Oh really, Vernon? Why pretend, we both know perfectly well what this is about. You want me to have an abortion.
Male PA Announcer: It's really the only sensible thing to do. If its done safely, therapeutically, there's no danger involved.
Got the theme tune in my head nowlaugh

anonymous-user

56 months

Thursday 28th March 2019
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DoubleD said:
bulldong said:
DoubleD said:
bulldong said:
And yet UK airports are some of the scummiest places that exist. Chewing gum on the carpets, rip off parking, and disgusting loos The first impression of the UK when you arrive is not great. It’s all to do with profits, not improving the experience.

Edited by anonymous-user on Wednesday 27th March 19:59
How much profit do these carparks make?
Well MAG Development Group EBITDA was £359m in 2018, 22% of total revenue was derived from parking.
And what is their profit from that?
The total group turnover was 820m or something in 2018 with an ebitda of £359. 22% of the revenue (180m or so) was derived from parking. I don’t know what you do for a living but it doesn’t take a genius to work out that implementing higher parking fees adds to higher revenues and profits. There is no specific data for profits from parking. It’s a business and they wouldn’t do it if it wasn’t profitable, which is why they got rid of the loss making Bournemouth airport. If it’s not making money they’re not interested in it.

23rdian

387 posts

165 months

Thursday 28th March 2019
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DoubleD said:
Its theft and it makes stuff more expensive for everyone else.
No it doesn't. It's like the old argument about piracy. The video game industry has all but eliminated "theft" on consoles. The result was price rises. How can not paying to simply pull over in a car be considered "theft" either.

Edit: I also believe this works in hospital car parks too. Fup em.


Edited by 23rdian on Thursday 28th March 22:03