RE: Lotus Carlton | Spotted

[LarJammer]

wab172uk said:

SpudLink said:

skatty said:

Here https://www.hendersonsgaragenairn.co.uk/used-cars/...

WTF! £150k !!!!!!

It’s an icon, sure, but that’s beyond insane.

You're selling a car for £150,000 and can't even be bothered to fill in all the car's details.

Wishful thinking on the price of the Impreza too. £21k?

I think that's the worst advert I have every seen. Rubbish pics too. Is the whole description really "
Green, THE CAR YOU SEE TODAY AND PLAN TO BUY TOMORROW SOMEONE SAW YESTERDAY, £150,000" WTF!

[Shakermaker]

B'stard Child said:

Mint £45-£50
Avg £40-£45
Scruffy £35-£40
Barn Find - as cheap as you can get because it was stuck in the barn because it was broken - no other reason

I'll give you fifty quid for yours BC.

[B'stard Child]

blade7 said:

B'stard Child said:

Mint £45-£50
Avg £40-£45
Scruffy £35-£40
Barn Find - as cheap as you can get because it was stuck in the barn because it was broken - no other reason

Makes sense to me

There are some exceptional cars out there that have had either full nut and bolt rebuilds (not normal) or very comprehensive restos (winky) and I have no doubt that those cars (and others that have been through similar) if for sale would probably command a little more but like I said they are the exceptional ones and I reckon you’d have to kill them before they were up for sale.

I’d be very careful when looking at a “low mileage stored for a few years one” that body kit hides an awful lot of tin worm and low mileage doesn’t guarantee no issues - there have been cars in the autobahnstormers that have had well over 200,000 miles on them so mileage doesn’t kill them.

A friend has one that’s been parked in a dehumidified garage for nearly 10 years since it’s last MOT - again it’s a little scruffy on the outside (that front end is a bloody magnet for stone chips) but mechanically it’s superb having had all the weak spots sorted over the last 26 years he’s owned it - we were talking the other month about whether it was worth an £8-9K resto before sale by a company that has probably done more LC’s than anyone but he’s just going to sit on it till the 550 goes then put it back on the road

[B'stard Child]

NotNormal said:

B'stard Child said:

...the only real troublesome parts is probably timing chain tensioners....

[pedant mode] Tensioners are readily available. The curved chain guide however.. [/pedant mode]

Pedantry accepted - you are indeed correct

[B'stard Child]

Shakermaker said:

B'stard Child said:

Mint £45-£50
Avg £40-£45
Scruffy £35-£40
Barn Find - as cheap as you can get because it was stuck in the barn because it was broken - no other reason

I'll give you fifty quid for yours BC.

Haha - good spot but thanks not for sale yet

[Midshipracer]

I bet if this car was released today, you'd have people says it's too fast to be a manual 😏

How soft the masses have become

[B'stard Child]

NotNormal should have said:

here’s a picture of one of the LC’s anyone with a scruffy one doesn’t want to park near

[s m]

B'stard Child said:

SweptVolume said:

Always a favourite of mine, I remember when higher mileage (though not stupidly so) were going for £20k.

Something to ponder, though; are there any more around this price? I knew that £40-£50 was more on the money these days, but could this just be a long-term owner who's decided they're possibly willing to let it go if it effectively (when inflation is taken into consideration) hasn't lost a penny? Unless it sells for this money, the price is irrelevant.

Pretty much that ^ I reckon mine is worth around £35 - £40 K max - and I need to spend a chunk of coin on paint before I sell it as no one will buy a scruffy but mechanically and structurally sound one - they all want garage queens for show and shine and I don’t do that

I'd agree with that - there are ones on the PH ads for under half the price of the one in the article.

The price of that one is just a headline-grabber, a talking point intended to get people on here laughing, fuming and therefore typing - you can rock up and buy one for 40k, albeit with more miles.

Get the right people at an auction and I wouldn't be surprised to see it going for 80k plus based on the other 2 auction results

It's like that £300,000 Merc 190 Evolution 2 - most likely going in a collection - you can buy one even now for half of that.

[Shakermaker]

B'stard Child said:

Haha - good spot but thanks not for sale yet

Well, the offer stands and I've gone top end just because I enjoyed reading your thread so much that you deserve the extra even though you say it isn't "mint"

[B'stard Child]

V8fan said:

If you can see past the badge, 5th Gear compared one to a VXR8 in 2008. The newer Vauxhall was faster round a track, unsurprisingly, but not by much:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoCYrtcF3mg

And if you don't need 4 doors, a Monaro VXR can be had for much less.

Vauxhall Heritage one used for that test was at the time well down on poke (deliberately or not we will probably never know)

[NotNormal]

B'stard Child said:

Vauxhall Heritage one used for that test was at the time well down on poke (deliberately or not we will probably never know)

Speaking to the Heritage guys at the time they found the exhaust butterfly valve was seized. They rectified it shortly after the return of the car.

[s m]

B'stard Child said:

V8fan said:

If you can see past the badge, 5th Gear compared one to a VXR8 in 2008. The newer Vauxhall was faster round a track, unsurprisingly, but not by much:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoCYrtcF3mg

And if you don't need 4 doors, a Monaro VXR can be had for much less.

Vauxhall Heritage one used for that test was at the time well down on poke (deliberately or not we will probably never know)

Was it seized when they the did the Total Vauxhall feature too?

IIRC it was the slowest one there

Edited by s m on Friday 22 November 13:54

[NotNormal]

I think it was around the same sort of time

[B'stard Child]

NotNormal said:

B'stard Child said:

Vauxhall Heritage one used for that test was at the time well down on poke (deliberately or not we will probably never know)

Speaking to the Heritage guys at the time they found the exhaust butterfly valve was seized. They rectified it shortly after the return of the car.

Ha that does tend to restrict them a fair bit

[Roma101]

Nah, I’ll take the M5 actually. Thanks

[LotusOmega375D]

This was my LHD version. Sold for 32K in 2015 at 8,400 miles.





I have an amazing talent for being ahead of the market. I sold my Lancia Integrale 16v for 7K in 2007, my Renault 5 Turbo 2 for 13K in 2008, my Subaru Impreza 22B for 21K in 2010.... All were mint and low miles.

[s m]

LotusOmega375D said:

This was my LHD version. Sold for 32K in 2015 at 8,400 miles.

I have an amazing talent for being ahead of the market. I sold my Lancia Integrale 16v for 7K in 2007, my Renault 5 Turbo 2 for 13K in 2008, my Subaru Impreza 22B for 21K in 2010.... All were mint and low miles.

Selling any cars soon......

[irocfan]

LotusOmega375D said:

I have an amazing talent for being ahead of the market. I sold my Lancia Integrale 16v for 7K in 2007, my Renault 5 Turbo 2 for 13K in 2008, my Subaru Impreza 22B for 21K in 2010.... All were mint and low miles.

just let us know what you're selling next

[B'stard Child]

LotusOmega375D said:

This was my LHD version. Sold for 32K in 2015 at 8,400 miles.





I have an amazing talent for being ahead of the market. I sold my Lancia Integrale 16v for 7K in 2007, my Renault 5 Turbo 2 for 13K in 2008, my Subaru Impreza 22B for 21K in 2010.... All were mint and low miles.

I have a mutual acquaintance who is way ahead of you every car he has owned he has sold before prices went ballistic

[Rado16v]

I remember as a kid going to a breakers yard with my dad in Perivale to buy some widgets for his Rover 416 sli. They had a wrecked Lotus Carlton that had been squashed to about 4ft from front to back. I spotted it as a Lotus Carlton from the wheels.

'Twas a sad day.