TVR Sagaris | Spotted

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Cacatous

3,166 posts

275 months

Tuesday 24th December 2019
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I'd love to see a wide body Tuscan on a Sagaris chassis.

If I win millions of dollars I'm commissioning one!

R400TVR

547 posts

164 months

Tuesday 24th December 2019
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The panels on the bonnet were meant to be motorised too, but that was very quickly dropped and they are fixed in position.

https://youtu.be/BxHx1vuxzXc

RazerSauber

2,335 posts

62 months

Tuesday 24th December 2019
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Absolutely love these and a lottery win would see me in one. These just looks like they're exploding whenever you see one. Sublime piece of design.

Clockwork Cupcake

75,191 posts

274 months

Tuesday 24th December 2019
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RazerSauber said:
These just looks like they're exploding whenever you see one.
Sadly, being on my 3rd engine in 10 years, I sometimes think they are.

Don1

15,974 posts

210 months

Tuesday 24th December 2019
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And then same engine, same mods (mostly), and mine is very happy, very powerful and absolutely fine.

For those wanting details - 450bhp, 360Lb/Ft.

Olivera

7,315 posts

241 months

Tuesday 24th December 2019
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Clockwork Cupcake said:
Sadly, being on my 3rd engine in 10 years, I sometimes think they are.
PH would have you believe they've been rock solidly reliable for at least 10 years due to specialist support. So... what happened?

Clockwork Cupcake

75,191 posts

274 months

Tuesday 24th December 2019
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Don1 said:
And then same engine, same mods (mostly), and mine is very happy, very powerful and absolutely fine.
True. And, in fairness, 1.5 of those engines were pre-mod, and the other half of the 2nd was an ingested rivet from the engine side of the airbox.

I've been very unlucky, and it's not through lack of mechanical sympathy either. Apparently I have the dubious honour of having the only FFF2 S6 engine to ever have experienced bucket wear, which was apparently down to a "bad batch" (where have we heard that one before?)



Byker28i

61,763 posts

219 months

Tuesday 24th December 2019
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Don1 said:
And then same engine, same mods (mostly), and mine is very happy, very powerful and absolutely fine.

For those wanting details - 450bhp, 360Lb/Ft.
Interesting figures from a S6, whats the spec? I've seen 4.3's making 415-420bhp

Clockwork Cupcake

75,191 posts

274 months

Tuesday 24th December 2019
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Byker28i said:
Interesting figures from a S6, whats the spec? I've seen 4.3's making 415-420bhp
S6 development essentially went down two paths - a traditional "bore it out, and make it more reliable" path, championed by TVR Power, and a more fundamental engineering-led path that involved completely reworking the head, timing, etc, as espoused by Racing Green. Don and I went for the latter, so we both have the FFF2 head which has extra oil and coolant pathways, which ditches the Finger Followers for buckets, has a Simplex Timing Chain, Syvecs ECU with knock sensors, and the like. Don's engine also has ACT intake and exhaust mods which mine doesn't which is where he gets the extra horsepower over mine (mine is around 410bhp).

(Apologies to Don if I got any of that wrong)


Edited by Clockwork Cupcake on Tuesday 24th December 12:51

Byker28i

61,763 posts

219 months

Tuesday 24th December 2019
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Nice, not seen a FF2 engine on a rolling road day, but have read good things over the years. Is that still a standard 4.0 bore then? Interesting an ACT exhaust and manifold makes 40bhp more? The tuned length manifolds added about 10bhp more to my 4.2 AJP

Clockwork Cupcake

75,191 posts

274 months

Tuesday 24th December 2019
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Byker28i said:
Nice, not seen a FF2 engine on a rolling road day, but have read good things over the years. Is that still a standard 4.0 bore then? Interesting an ACT exhaust and manifold makes 40bhp more? The tuned length manifolds added about 10bhp more to my 4.2 AJP
It depends on tune - I had mine mapped to optimise torque, and I think we saw around 418bhp when mapped for peak power. But also the S6 needs to breathe and I think the intake and exhaust really benefit the engine, and unlock more potential for remapping.


lukeharding

2,955 posts

91 months

Tuesday 24th December 2019
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Jasper Gilder said:
I've owned mine since 2007 - its just having it's 205,000 mile service - 'nuff said
Thats seriously impressive! Nice going! thumbup

unsprung

5,467 posts

126 months

Tuesday 24th December 2019
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lukeharding said:
Jasper Gilder said:
I've owned mine since 2007 - its just having it's 205,000 mile service - 'nuff said
Thats seriously impressive! Nice going! thumbup
Goodness gracious, that is impressive.

Driven more or less year round? Or with minimal use in cold months?

We can assume that things like dampers, discs, and brake pads have been replenished. What about more enduring components such as clutch, exhaust, catalyst (did it have one?), radiator, etc.?



anonymous-user

56 months

Tuesday 24th December 2019
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Don1 said:
And then same engine, same mods (mostly), and mine is very happy, very powerful and absolutely fine.

For those wanting details - 450bhp, 360Lb/Ft.
Has there ever been a car better suited to flip paint?

RazerSauber

2,335 posts

62 months

Tuesday 24th December 2019
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Clockwork Cupcake said:
Sadly, being on my 3rd engine in 10 years, I sometimes think they are.
Yes, that's the fear. It would either complete 400k miles at red line without any issues at all or I'd come out the day after I bought it to a heap of bits that resemble my Sagaris.

Don1

15,974 posts

210 months

Tuesday 24th December 2019
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The Clockwork one has it correct - it seems the S6 really likes to breathe! However, I have standard manifolds still - I would imagine the number would go up again if I went that direction.

I've kept playing with mine - she now has 9UU's (he of the LS9 Sagaris) wheels and brakes - Paul is up to (good) no good with his biggrin

Next step may be Nitrons and maybe sorting out the aircon...

As you can see, the paint is a little different in and out of direct light.



Venturist

3,472 posts

197 months

Tuesday 24th December 2019
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There is something unspeakably cool about these. Absolutely bonkers but in a beautiful way and unlike anything else out there.

FN2TypeR

7,091 posts

95 months

Tuesday 24th December 2019
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Venturist said:
There is something unspeakably cool about these. Absolutely bonkers but in a beautiful way and unlike anything else out there.
Agreed, absolutely fantastic machines IMO cloud9

anonymous-user

56 months

Tuesday 24th December 2019
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Don1 said:
The Clockwork one has it correct - it seems the S6 really likes to breathe! However, I have standard manifolds still - I would imagine the number would go up again if I went that direction.

I've kept playing with mine - she now has 9UU's (he of the LS9 Sagaris) wheels and brakes - Paul is up to (good) no good with his biggrin

Next step may be Nitrons and maybe sorting out the aircon...

As you can see, the paint is a little different in and out of direct light.


Stunning. Windrush did my paint and I've seen a coupe of spectraflair cars, always loved the variety of colours. Yours is a great colour, whats the code/name?

Don1

15,974 posts

210 months

Tuesday 24th December 2019
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Thank you. I wanted TVR OEM+ - it's called Spectraflair black and (from memory) it's SF-4?