RE: 'AU 1' made famous by Goldfinger goes on sale

RE: 'AU 1' made famous by Goldfinger goes on sale

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JJJ.

1,394 posts

17 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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What a thread! Sorry, I bothered reading it.

85Carrera

3,503 posts

239 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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Hairymonster said:
Julian Scott said:
One quick look at the attendees of any socialist/left-wing/Labour Party event will show that 'cross' is the default position. The only happiness in their lives appears to be the free lunches.
Aha! How I've missed your posts!

Most people at the events you refer to aren't cross, it's more about optimism: wanting to make a difference to the benefit of the country, rather than the narrow-minded, incompetent, self-serving corruption forced upon us during 13 years of Tory misrule, supported by the sorts of people that regard the government's performance as acceptable and appropriate. Voting Tory is for those who have an essential part of their soul missing.
Off topic but the left aren’t optimistic and it’s ridiculous to suggest they are. It’s all about envy with them.


Daztompa

10 posts

21 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2023
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Julian Scott said:
One quick look at the attendees of any socialist/left-wing/Labour Party event will show that 'cross' is the default position. The only happiness in their lives appears to be the free lunches.
I consider myself to be socialist and certainly more left than right, (the Labour Party at the moment is neither but that's by the by)
I also believe that if people have worked hard to earn their fortune and pay their fair share in regards to tax then it's none of anyone's business what they spend their disposable on

Daztompa

10 posts

21 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2023
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85Carrera said:
Off topic but the left aren’t optimistic and it’s ridiculous to suggest they are. It’s all about envy with them.
bks, I envy nobody but hope for a fairer society for everybody

Jon_S_Rally

3,456 posts

90 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2023
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tr3a said:
I did quite well at school, thank you very much. So well in fact that I could afford to fill my garage with nice classic cars and never had to finance a new car in my life.

Perhaps if you'd done better at life, you wouldn't immediately presume those who advocate for a lower Gini coefficient are all lazy scroungers.
You mean like you presumed that anyone that can afford to spend six figures on a plate must be a tax-dodging crook who is looking to stroke their ego?

smilo996 said:
Sir Les?
As for taxing plates, deference or self interest always find the exception. Charge an ego tax on plates sold on instead of a slap.
Even better encourage a society where massive ego's, wafeur thin self confidence and massive entitlement are seen as a bit pathetic which and of course they are.
In that society, can we also encourage people not to make snap judgements about others? You know, things like assuming that someone has a massive ego because they bought a personalised registration plate...

rodericb

6,821 posts

128 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2023
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It's funny Sir Les makes an appearance - old numberplates in Australia go for eyewatering amounts.


https://premium.goauto.com.au/shannons-auction-rea...
https://www.shannons.com.au/club/news/auctions/rec...

And for those eat the rich types, in New South Wales people with what's called custom registration (2-6 numbers or letters in any combination) have to pay an extra $499 annually. Those historic two digit number plates in New South Wales cost something like $11,000 to transfer to another vehicle.

Ivan stewart

2,792 posts

38 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2023
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tr3a said:
Here's an idea.

In a country where 1in 5 people are at or below the poverty line, how about taxing ego car plates? If you can spend money on buying a plate just to stroke your ego, you can afford to contribute to mitigating some of your country's problems. The fewer positions your ego plate has, the more tax you pay. Just two positions? 10x road tax. Three positions: 5x road tax, and so on.

It could be an ego stroking thing in itself: have a short registration, show people you're really doing well, not just for yourself, but also for the country.
Aww bless!!!

Simondrabblecars

1 posts

43 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2023
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Gains made on number plates are taxed as they are not a wasting asset.

Cryssys

482 posts

40 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2023
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simundo777 said:
tr3a said:
Here's an idea.

In a country where 1in 5 people are at or below the poverty line, how about taxing ego car plates? If you can spend money on buying a plate just to stroke your ego, you can afford to contribute to mitigating some of your country's problems. The fewer positions your ego plate has, the more tax you pay. Just two positions? 10x road tax. Three positions: 5x road tax, and so on.

It could be an ego stroking thing in itself: have a short registration, show people you're really doing well, not just for yourself, but also for the country.
Yawn. I don't think PH is your place
You've got that the wrong way round in my opinion.

Gompo

4,430 posts

260 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2023
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Back on topic, I think the last time this registration was sold it had been brokered by a member here. Not sure if they could divulge the price for that sale?

tr3a

Original Poster:

510 posts

229 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2023
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Harry H said:
"bks" as that's what the 1 in 5 statistic is.
https://fullfact.org/economy/poverty-uk-guide-facts-and-figures/

The numbers haven't improved since.

ds666

2,668 posts

181 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2023
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tr3a said:
Harry H said:
"bks" as that's what the 1 in 5 statistic is.
https://fullfact.org/economy/poverty-uk-guide-facts-and-figures/

The numbers haven't improved since.
I think you are on the wrong forum mate .

Biggy Stardust

7,016 posts

46 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2023
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tr3a said:
Here's an idea.

In a country where 1in 5 people are at or below the poverty line, how about taxing ego car plates? If you can spend money on buying a plate just to stroke your ego, you can afford to contribute to mitigating some of your country's problems. The fewer positions your ego plate has, the more tax you pay. Just two positions? 10x road tax. Three positions: 5x road tax, and so on.

It could be an ego stroking thing in itself: have a short registration, show people you're really doing well, not just for yourself, but also for the country.
You're in favour of OTHER PEOPLE paying more tax? Good for you; I acknowledge your signalled virtue.

honevo

163 posts

107 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2023
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JJJ. said:
What a thread! Sorry, I bothered reading it.
Agreed - a profoundly depressing thread

Square Leg

14,725 posts

191 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2023
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Biggy Stardust said:
tr3a said:
Here's an idea.

In a country where 1in 5 people are at or below the poverty line, how about taxing ego car plates? If you can spend money on buying a plate just to stroke your ego, you can afford to contribute to mitigating some of your country's problems. The fewer positions your ego plate has, the more tax you pay. Just two positions? 10x road tax. Three positions: 5x road tax, and so on.

It could be an ego stroking thing in itself: have a short registration, show people you're really doing well, not just for yourself, but also for the country.
You're in favour of OTHER PEOPLE paying more tax? Good for you; I acknowledge your signalled virtue.
It’s almost like John McDonnell has joined PH.

otolith

56,592 posts

206 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2023
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tr3a said:
Here's an idea.

In a country where 1in 5 people are at or below the poverty line, how about taxing ego car plates? If you can spend money on buying a plate just to stroke your ego, you can afford to contribute to mitigating some of your country's problems. The fewer positions your ego plate has, the more tax you pay. Just two positions? 10x road tax. Three positions: 5x road tax, and so on.

It could be an ego stroking thing in itself: have a short registration, show people you're really doing well, not just for yourself, but also for the country.
If having the plate actually cost £300k I would be more inclined to agree with the sentiment that if some people have so much more money than they need that they can waste it on something so pointless they should probably be taxed more. However, it doesn't cost 300k, it's worth 300k and is likely to remain so. They're not 300k poorer than they were before they bought it, they've just moved some of their money around.

Julian Scott

2,615 posts

26 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2023
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Saweep said:
I suspect the market for a lot of these dateless plates will be vanishing if it hasn't gone already.

The very best will continue to do well, of course, but the everything bubble is over.

I'd love AU1 because I love the film...this will be bought by a bullion dealer or jeweller though, surely?

Six figures it a lot for a whimsy.
I suspect the opposite. People have been calling the private plate market as 'bubble set to burst' for decades, but the truth is the market remains strong.

I bought mine when the new style of number plate was announced around 25yrs ago. 2 numbers/2 letters - it cost me £800. Most 2x2 plates now start at 10x that, the cheapest 2x2 I can find with my initials is £18,000. 5yrs ago, both were about half that value.

I've no interest in selling it, but the market remains stronger than ever.

pingu393

7,977 posts

207 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2023
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Julian Scott said:
I suspect the opposite. People have been calling the private plate market as 'bubble set to burst' for decades, but the truth is the market remains strong.

I bought mine when the new style of number plate was announced around 25yrs ago. 2 numbers/2 letters - it cost me £800. Most 2x2 plates now start at 10x that, the cheapest 2x2 I can find with my initials is £18,000. 5yrs ago, both were about half that value.

I've no interest in selling it, but the market remains stronger than ever.
I'm sure JS1 will still be very cheap if you want it smile

Jay_87

1,055 posts

206 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2023
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tr3a said:
I did quite well at school, thank you very much. So well in fact that I could afford to fill my garage with nice classic cars and never had to finance a new car in my life.

Perhaps if you'd done better at life, you wouldn't immediately presume those who advocate for a lower Gini coefficient are all lazy scroungers.
Is a classic car any more necessary than a private number plate? Maybe you should pay some more tax on them.

Muzzer79

10,222 posts

189 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2023
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Jay_87 said:
tr3a said:
I did quite well at school, thank you very much. So well in fact that I could afford to fill my garage with nice classic cars and never had to finance a new car in my life.

Perhaps if you'd done better at life, you wouldn't immediately presume those who advocate for a lower Gini coefficient are all lazy scroungers.
Is a classic car any more necessary than a private number plate? Maybe you should pay some more tax on them.
Indeed

If you can afford to “stroke your ego” with a garage full of nice classic cars, I assume you’ll be volunteering to pay a nice tax on that ego stroking?

jester