New Performance Car mag - 1st issue

[AndyWoodall]

adycav said:

Anyone know when the next one's out?

I am reliably imformed its out on the 20th. Includes the following...

Cover Story: Mitsubishi Evo X UK test

Road Test: Honda S2000 GT

Group Test: Diesel coupés

First Drives: Toyota Auris SR 180, Lexus IS F, Autodelta Spider

Drive Story: Caterham Superlight R400 in the South East

Buying Guide: BMW E39 M5

[CosmicMatt]

L100NYY said:

Morning chaps and chapesses,

I have arrived into work this morning and sitting on my desk is the first issue of the new Performance Car magazine and I have to say having just had a quick skip through it looks absolutely fabulous.

Great photography, lovely layout and great writing. Some of the features incl -

E30 M3 vs 'Grale vs G60 vs Quattro
197 Cup vs Williams
968CS buying guide
New WRX
Elise SC on the Route Napoleon
Junior hot hatches under £10k and group 10 ins.
Long termers incl Civic Type R GT, Golf GTI, Integra Type R, E92 M3.

Cracking stuff guys.

Edited by L100NYY on Wednesday 20th February 08:57

Got to say that the issue was sublime, hopefully they can keep it up and the adverts down.

[adycav]

AndyWoodall said:

adycav said:

Anyone know when the next one's out?

I am reliably imformed its out on the 20th. Includes the following...

Cover Story: Mitsubishi Evo X UK test

Road Test: Honda S2000 GT

Group Test: Diesel coupés

First Drives: Toyota Auris SR 180, Lexus IS F, Autodelta Spider

Drive Story: Caterham Superlight R400 in the South East

Buying Guide: BMW E39 M5

Thanks for this. Sounds great.

On a related note, I popped in to WH Smith's at lunch and they had LOADS of copies of issue 1 left.

[900T-R]

CosmicMatt said:

Got to say that the issue was sublime, hopefully they can keep it up and the adverts down.

Um, if you want the content to go up, advertising needs to go up. Unlike some of the more prolific inhabitants of the City and the South East, us magazine bods don't need six figure salaries to make us get by - but all the same we must make a living and it's not coming from the £3.95 you pay at the counter...

Unless it's sponsored by a club, institution, association or brand, the # of pages in a magazine is based on a pre-determined split between editorial content and advertising, mostly in the region of 60:40. Sometimes the sales bods have a bad week/month and us editors are called in to do some last minute filling of empty spaces - obviously if this is structural, the mag either gets thinner or disappears long-term...

Edited by 900T-R on Monday 17th March 15:46

[Paul Dishman]

L100NYY said:

Morning chaps and chapesses,

I have arrived into work this morning and sitting on my desk is the first issue of the new Performance Car magazine and I have to say having just had a quick skip through it looks absolutely fabulous.

Great photography, lovely layout and great writing. Some of the features incl -

E30 M3 vs 'Grale vs G60 vs Quattro
197 Cup vs Williams
968CS buying guide
New WRX
Elise SC on the Route Napoleon
Junior hot hatches under £12k and group 10 ins.
Long termers incl Civic Type R GT, Golf GTI, Integra Type R, E92 M3.

Cracking stuff guys.

Edited by L100NYY on Wednesday 20th February 08:57

Its Evo-lite, so I'll stick to the full strength version.

[SJobson]

AndyWoodall said:

adycav said:

Anyone know when the next one's out?

I am reliably imformed its out on the 20th. Includes the following...

Cover Story: Mitsubishi Evo X UK test

Road Test: Honda S2000 GT

Group Test: Diesel coupés

First Drives: Toyota Auris SR 180, Lexus IS F, Autodelta Spider

Drive Story: Caterham Superlight R400 in the South East

Buying Guide: BMW E39 M5

After the reasonably inspired choice of cars in the first issue, this looks just like every other mag's selection. Coupled with the average journalism I suspect issue 2 will be the last I'll buy.

[briSk]

SJobson said:

AndyWoodall said:

adycav said:

Anyone know when the next one's out?

I am reliably imformed its out on the 20th. Includes the following...

Cover Story: Mitsubishi Evo X UK test

Road Test: Honda S2000 GT

Group Test: Diesel coupés

First Drives: Toyota Auris SR 180, Lexus IS F, Autodelta Spider

Drive Story: Caterham Superlight R400 in the South East

Buying Guide: BMW E39 M5

After the reasonably inspired choice of cars in the first issue, this looks just like every other mag's selection. Coupled with the average journalism I suspect issue 2 will be the last I'll buy.

it does sound a bit weak.
it's unlikely the auris has ceased being ste in the last couple of months..

[Pugsey]

L100NYY said:

Plotloss said:

Evo without the Shell adverts and self congratulation?

I'm in.

There are actually next to no adverts in this issue which comes as a very pleasant suprise!

Sadly that's just because, as a new launch, they haven't got the readership/proof of circulation to make a good sales pitch to advertisers yet. If the mag. is successful (attracts a growing readership) it will carry more and more ads. It HAS to - the cover price doesn't pay for any mag. these days.

[adycav]

Just picked up a copy of Issue 2 from WHS. We have:

First drives inc. Lexus ISF, Autodelta Alfa Spider, SLK350, Alpina D3 biturbo
Evo X UK drive
Revised Honda S2000 full road test
Farbio GTS article
BMW 123d vs 407 Coupe vs Brera JTD
Caterham R400 'sunday drive'
Revisiting the Integra Type R & new CTR comparison
E39 M5 buying guide

I like it.

[dinkel]

Re: Revised Honda S2000 full road test

A 2.2?

[adycav]

dinkel said:

Re: Revised Honda S2000 full road test

A 2.2?

Nah. Same 237 bhp 2.0, but with revised suspension & diff I think (not read it yet).

[SJobson]

adycav said:

Just picked up a copy of Issue 2 from WHS. We have:

First drives inc. Lexus ISF, Autodelta Alfa Spider, SLK350, Alpina D3 biturbo
Evo X UK drive
Revised Honda S2000 full road test
Farbio GTS article
BMW 123d vs 407 Coupe vs Brera JTD
Caterham R400 'sunday drive'
Revisiting the Integra Type R & new CTR comparison
E39 M5 buying guide

I like it.

So the only old/sub-£20k cars are the E39 M5 (which has been done to death in other mags) and the ITR (which has been done to death... etc). I'm not impressed by how far they've already deviated from their modus operandi.

[L100NYY]

SJobson said:

[I'm not impressed by how far they've already deviated from their modus operandi.

I don't remember PC magazine themselves actually saying that they would only be focusing on sub £20k cars, I think it was only people on here saying that?

[Gad-Westy]

L100NYY said:

SJobson said:

[I'm not impressed by how far they've already deviated from their modus operandi.

I don't remember PC magazine themselves actually saying that they would only be focusing on sub £20k cars, I think it was only people on here saying that?

Not got a copy to hand, but I'm pretty certain that that is exactly what they said in the Editor's comments at the start.

[L100NYY]

Gad-Westy said:

L100NYY said:

SJobson said:

[I'm not impressed by how far they've already deviated from their modus operandi.

I don't remember PC magazine themselves actually saying that they would only be focusing on sub £20k cars, I think it was only people on here saying that?

Not got a copy to hand, but I'm pretty certain that that is exactly what they said in the Editor's comments at the start.

Just re-read the editors comments and it says affordable but nowhere does it mention £20k?

[briSk]

adycav said:

dinkel said:

Re: Revised Honda S2000 full road test

A 2.2?

Nah. Same 237 bhp 2.0, but with revised suspension & diff I think (not read it yet).

y o y o y haven't they gone with the 2.2 from almost every other market..? surely it must be marketing (2000cc)???

[dinkel]

It's time for a nice revvy 3.5 V6 350 brake S3500 . . .

Edit for accuracy of course you're right . . . I refer to the Yank V6 Honda :cough: Acura uses in the States.

Edited by dinkel on Thursday 20th March 21:02

[havoc]

dinkel said:

phat

SO the wrong word to use when referring to a performance Honda. Light, agile, focused. These are all good words to use!!!

I'd settle for a nice 2500cc I-5 or 3000cc I6 (that sort of area, anyway) in an updated S2000-style (and most-importantly size and weight) body. With an optional coupe version also, a-la Z4. Still kicking out at least 100bhp/litre, and weighing no more than 1,300kg, you'd be looking at the fun side of 200bhp/tonne (even the 350Z isn't quite there)!

[Shropshiremike]

Thought this was a better issue than the first one. Photography seems a lot better as well, lovely pic of the Caterham on pages 120-121 and soem good ones on the Lancer EVO X as well.
Enjoyed the write-up on the DonPalmer tuition as well

[AndyWoodall]

I got the second issue today also. A good read again for me, the diesel coupe test was pretty good, although I'm probably only saying that as I'm a bit of a closet fan for that 1 Series Coupe.

Readership must be taking off, there are now 15 members on the facebook group I started.

Oh and hello to Mr Jobson posting in this thread, long time no see!