RE: Polish Man Builds McLaren F1

RE: Polish Man Builds McLaren F1

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Sam_68

9,939 posts

247 months

Thursday 23rd April 2009
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fastgerman.com said:
...Apparently the Mclaren F1 prototypes used the Ultima chassis...
That's a slight exaggeration. A pair of Ultimas were used as development mules for testing components. They were Ultima's fitted with the McLaren gearbox or brakes, or whatever, rather than 'prototype' F1's (ie. they looked and drove basically like normal Ultimas, not like the F1).

There’s a discussion on a carbon-tubbed McLaren F1 replica here, which will be faster, lighter, more sophisticated and better handling than the original.














…allegedly. boxedin

bakerjuk

268 posts

193 months

Thursday 23rd April 2009
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Ah.. Humble Pie accepted.

Wilder

1,509 posts

211 months

Thursday 23rd April 2009
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Indeed, the two chassis were used to develop the drive train components on the F1.
After this was commpleted the chassis were destroyed.(Ultima chassis are rated for 1,000hp engines as standard..)

Edited by Wilder on Thursday 23 April 19:01

goody1million

1 posts

183 months

Thursday 23rd April 2009
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absolutley crazy...wonder what it drives like???

Steamer

13,905 posts

215 months

Thursday 23rd April 2009
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clap Looks Great!

Either thats a mould in the first bay - or a time lapse photo - or hes got a small production run going!


Andy G Bmth

4,933 posts

231 months

Thursday 23rd April 2009
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god i wish i had that sort of talent

fair play clap

Utterly Clueless

1,981 posts

195 months

Thursday 23rd April 2009
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That is truely fantastic, I wonder how much its cost him to make it???

squareflops said:
ridds said:
There's a V12 but if you look at the engine that's mounted in the chassis, that ones a V8.
I heard its a 1.2

Edited by squareflops on Thursday 23 April 17:16
I'm sure V8 Thunder will be ablong to teach him to cadance-clutch to 70mph rolleyes

norman156

2,050 posts

198 months

Thursday 23rd April 2009
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Steamer said:
clap Looks Great!

Either thats a mould in the first bay - or a time lapse photo - or hes got a small production run going!
Looks a bit like a KTM X-bow, maybe he's making one of those on the cheap as well wink

Edited by norman156 on Thursday 23 April 19:33

GPSS

694 posts

213 months

Thursday 23rd April 2009
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Nickellarse said:
I like it. Compared to some of the tat we see this is actually quite pleasing. It puts to shame the miriad of stoopid student designs. This lad has at least put his money where his mouth is and dun it.

He needs to get a nice bird on top of it for the photos though!
wink
That is his bird, she's an Iranian supermodel named Akmary. Apparently this is the only photo of her without her berka.

Just shows what you can do in your shed.

Housey

2,076 posts

229 months

Thursday 23rd April 2009
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briancorish said:
Er, I'm pretty sure that's a V8, not a V12...
SleeperCell said:
Err thats pretty obviously a V8 engine, not a V12 and an automatic??
BoRED S2upid said:
Shame the PH journalist couldn't tell a V8 from a V12, poor motoring journalism.


hehe

Justayellowbadge

37,057 posts

244 months

Thursday 23rd April 2009
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Has been explained, Housey.

:facepalm:

Edited by Justayellowbadge on Thursday 23 April 20:54

Fat Arnie

1,655 posts

265 months

Thursday 23rd April 2009
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What an interesting article, but there may be an interesting explaination as to why this car looks quite as accurate as it does.....

According to an ex-employee of mine, who now works for McLaren, they aledgedly lost a pretty much complete set of moulds which were free issued to a 3rd party composite moulding firm I later reserected. They were used to manufacture components for the F1 GTR race car.

This particular gentleman was personally responsible for the manufacture of the GTR panels. When we did some work for the F1 project some years later, this guy told the story of the missing tooling and that all new moulds had had to have been made.

So perhaps the missing tooling made it to Poland?

Edited by Fat Arnie on Thursday 23 April 21:00

dvbscott

1 posts

182 months

Thursday 23rd April 2009
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it is a v12 engine count the inlet manifold there at 6 pipes on each side one inlet pipe per cylinder do the math u end up with a v12!? oui biggrin
SleeperCell said:
Err thats pretty obviously a V8 engine, not a V12 and an automatic??

To be fair the exterior is nowhere near as bad as most of the dodgy replicas of Ferraris and I suppose at least the engine is in the right spot and it looks relatively proportionate, but that interior doesn't look to be shaping up too well.

Superhoop

4,683 posts

195 months

Thursday 23rd April 2009
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mrmr96 said:
Snoggledog said:
Gad-Westy said:
fpsasm said:
What you have to remember is.. nower days you can get get 200+hp/litre easially, and 120hp/litre with reliability ( e.g the XFR )
erm, am I missing something?
confused Me too...
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII MR FQ-400 makes c400bhp from 2.0 litres from the factory with a full manufacturers warranty. And that was 5 years ago.
From the factory?? Are you sure??

AFAIK they come into the UK with far less than 400 Bhp. The vehicles are registered, the engines then pulled out and sent off for modification (at a company in Leamington Spa or Coventry, can't remember which),then refitted and the engine management is re-mapped, plus a few other mods - Yes it has a warranty covered by Mitsubushi - But they definitely DON'T come from the factory like that.

As for the F1 replica, fair play to the guy. What is it with the Polish, that and the Mercedes are both really good efforts

Justayellowbadge

37,057 posts

244 months

Thursday 23rd April 2009
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dvbscott said:
it is a v12 engine count the inlet manifold there at 6 pipes on each side one inlet pipe per cylinder do the math u end up with a v12!? oui biggrin
Yes. NOW.

When the story went up and those comments were made, the only engine pic was of the Audi V8 that donated its transaxle.

The pics were updated.

Comprendez vous?

youngsyr

14,742 posts

194 months

Thursday 23rd April 2009
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Superhoop said:
mrmr96 said:
Snoggledog said:
Gad-Westy said:
fpsasm said:
What you have to remember is.. nower days you can get get 200+hp/litre easially, and 120hp/litre with reliability ( e.g the XFR )
erm, am I missing something?
confused Me too...
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII MR FQ-400 makes c400bhp from 2.0 litres from the factory with a full manufacturers warranty. And that was 5 years ago.
From the factory?? Are you sure??

AFAIK they come into the UK with far less than 400 Bhp. The vehicles are registered, the engines then pulled out and sent off for modification (at a company in Leamington Spa or Coventry, can't remember which),then refitted and the engine management is re-mapped, plus a few other mods - Yes it has a warranty covered by Mitsubushi - But they definitely DON'T come from the factory like that.

As for the F1 replica, fair play to the guy. What is it with the Polish, that and the Mercedes are both really good efforts
They left the factory in Japan as VIII MR GSRs, putting out around 300 bhp.

They were brought to this country and modified to 400 bhp by some of the aftermarket tuners employed by Mitsubishi UK.

Interestingly enough the tuners claimed it was detuned to 400 bhp for warranty or political reasons and was easily capable of 500 bhp with just a remap, although similar cars tuned to that level have required a larger bore exhaust and freer flowing induction.

youngsyr

14,742 posts

194 months

Thursday 23rd April 2009
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Justayellowbadge said:
dvbscott said:
it is a v12 engine count the inlet manifold there at 6 pipes on each side one inlet pipe per cylinder do the math u end up with a v12!? oui biggrin
Yes. NOW.

When the story went up and those comments were made, the only engine pic was of the Audi V8 that donated its transaxle.

The pics were updated.

Comprendez vous?
Comprennez-vous?rolleyes

The standard of French on here is really slipping. wink

Edited by youngsyr on Thursday 23 April 21:20

35secToNuvolari

1,016 posts

205 months

Thursday 23rd April 2009
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Very interesting. It looks like he softened the fender over rear wheel. One thing that makes it look 'off' is that the windshield seems to be the wrong shape.

dpbird90

5,535 posts

192 months

Thursday 23rd April 2009
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Hmm, I was expecting this to be terrible, but it's actually quite good, well proportioned unlike the "authentic" Ferrari MR2's you get, but Flemke, don't worry, there's nothing like the original (only once is this saying wrong; Godfather Part 2)

JEMYD

23 posts

203 months

Thursday 23rd April 2009
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ITs a v12 ,bmw did make 12 cylinder motors,if you count the air inlets theres six a side,sorted.