RE: Tech Details: New Morgan Threewheeler
Discussion
mrmaggit said:
Erm, sorry to tell you, chaps, but Grinnall have been making the Scorpion III since 1993, a modern take on the Morgan, and you can now get one with the 160bhp BMW engine in it.
Unless you have to have a three-wheeler with a Morgan badge on it, I'd have a look at one of them.
I have one, and I wouldn't sell it to buy a Morgan.
Gosh I hope this wasnt you but a few years back at Oulton Park I was talking to a chap that was proud as punch about his Grinnall and I'm not embellishing here when I say he said a few things about how brilliant it was that had me think "oh really???" Unless you have to have a three-wheeler with a Morgan badge on it, I'd have a look at one of them.
I have one, and I wouldn't sell it to buy a Morgan.
Anyhow, my friend who was also there in his Ford ST was following the same Grinnall when it oversteered, was then over-corrected and went rear first into the barrier.
Sadly, and according to my friend (quite reliable chap), this was all at quite low speeds.
Moral of the tale: On the track, 4 wheels are better than 3
I would imagine that Harleys are still tuned for grunt and torque rather than outright power which might suit the application and have little doubt the engines will be cheaper and more advantageous for them and parts probably cheaper (at least until Morgan add their mark-up 
). Probably reliable too and simple to service.
). Probably reliable too and simple to service.Flood said:
How stable are/were they? Do they not just fall over?
Few years ago I was a passenger in many of the original 3 wheelers and they are very stable. The JAP engined ones are quite quick aswell, had a ride in a racing one, only 2 gears and first was supposedly good for about 60!
robm3 said:
mrmaggit said:
Erm, sorry to tell you, chaps, but Grinnall have been making the Scorpion III since 1993, a modern take on the Morgan, and you can now get one with the 160bhp BMW engine in it.
Unless you have to have a three-wheeler with a Morgan badge on it, I'd have a look at one of them.
I have one, and I wouldn't sell it to buy a Morgan.
Gosh I hope this wasnt you but a few years back at Oulton Park I was talking to a chap that was proud as punch about his Grinnall and I'm not embellishing here when I say he said a few things about how brilliant it was that had me think "oh really???" Unless you have to have a three-wheeler with a Morgan badge on it, I'd have a look at one of them.
I have one, and I wouldn't sell it to buy a Morgan.
Anyhow, my friend who was also there in his Ford ST was following the same Grinnall when it oversteered, was then over-corrected and went rear first into the barrier.
Sadly, and according to my friend (quite reliable chap), this was all at quite low speeds.
Moral of the tale: On the track, 4 wheels are better than 3
I know the owner of the dark blue Grinnall waggling its wheel in the air, she was surprised how far in the air she got it.
The crash you refer to could have been anything, I've seen many crashes caused by over-correcting, happens to 4 wheelers too, you know. Even some FWD cars!
LuS1fer said:
I would imagine that Harleys are still tuned for grunt and torque rather than outright power which might suit the application and have little doubt the engines will be cheaper and more advantageous for them and parts probably cheaper (at least until Morgan add their mark-up ). Probably reliable too and simple to service.
In standard form, I don't really expect to see the words Harley and Tuned in the same sentence, IYKWIM. ). Probably reliable too and simple to service.georgetuk said:
It'll never work as more than a (very) niche car.
3 wheerlers are spoilt by Robin Reliant.
Plus looks a bit silly, need a lot of chutzpah to pull it off.
Of course it's a niche car! I don't think Morgan are stupid enough to think otherwise. Air-cooled, twin three-wheeler with no roof? 3 wheerlers are spoilt by Robin Reliant.
Plus looks a bit silly, need a lot of chutzpah to pull it off.
I don't understand the comment about "pulling it off"... Anyone who drives a Morgan is making an anti-statement anyway.
I must say I'm a little disapointed in Morgan. They've been in a rich vein of beautiful retro-styling in recent years that I would have expected a similar approach to the 3 wheeler. Looks like they've just got the old plans out and scanned them into a computer.
And I really can't see how they can justify that price-tag, it's ridiculous.
And I really can't see how they can justify that price-tag, it's ridiculous.
Target price, if achievable is £25k I understand.
I'm sure there will be many ways of inividualising your car should you so wish. The press release refers to initial cars being 'sport' models exactly as the current Morgan Trad line up. The Sport comes with a take it or leave it spec(decent all the same) and in a fixed number of colours. There will be other models after initial release.
Hats off to Morgan for combining current car politics with heritage and history to provide a fossil fuel vehicle that can be fun enthralling and not upset the Greenies too much
At risk of repeating myself, I'm biased and my order is already In
I'm sure there will be many ways of inividualising your car should you so wish. The press release refers to initial cars being 'sport' models exactly as the current Morgan Trad line up. The Sport comes with a take it or leave it spec(decent all the same) and in a fixed number of colours. There will be other models after initial release.
Hats off to Morgan for combining current car politics with heritage and history to provide a fossil fuel vehicle that can be fun enthralling and not upset the Greenies too much
At risk of repeating myself, I'm biased and my order is already In
I think some people don't like it because it is different! I am all for originality and Morgan is one of the most original car companies around. I salute them for having the courage to bring out a fun motor. I have added this to my dream garage.
Has anyone else noticed the new bonnet badge?
Sorry about the quality. Best I could find
Has anyone else noticed the new bonnet badge?
Sorry about the quality. Best I could find
Konrod said:
Of course, if you want a 4 wheeled Morgan look and feel and don't want to spend a fortune i.e. about £7k, build one of these - mine had a flat twin, could have fitted a Guzzi and wire wheels (and did fit a much smaller front number plate). Great fun with goggles and flying helmet
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