RE: SOTW: Rover 200 BRM

[300bhp/ton]

jake15919 said:

So you don't know then. 50% survival in 12 years for an enthusiast type car seems poor. I'm not looking for a row over the merits of the car, what's the point, just asking a question.

But it's not just 50% it's only 350-400 cars.

Eg if the limited run was 4000 cars and only 3500 remained, would it really have done any better? The mortality rate is probably pretty consistent on this type and class of car.

[Smike]

jake15919 said:

vinny19791 said:

Ive owned two BRM's

Awesome cars, around 350 left on the road these days.

One of mine is still in storage, the other recently got shipped to holland.

Can be had for as little as £500 up to £2000 for a minter.

Buy one now and lock it away, the interiors really do need to be seen and the vvc engine is a marvel.

People who spout on that " its a rover and oh watch the headgasket " are ignorant who follow the trend.

They sold 700 of them in the UK. They were a special edition, so you would assume they would have been looked after. So why are there only 350 left?

Serious question, not taking the p*ss.

Where do you get the figure of 350 from?

As per the previous figures supplied from the DVLA it's a fair few more than that

[Bigel]

Goodfella 555 said:

Bigel said:

Not that theres noting to not like about pies

I made a fusion Indian / Mexican cornish pasty last night, it was fit. Plenty of coriander is the secret. Was a little unsightly (i'd had a few) but looked far better than the grill on that Rover he he

hmm, interesting concept, personally I'd like to try some sort of hungarian goulash pie with plenty of paprika in, reckon that could work quite well!

[Jesus TF Christ]

300bhp/ton said:

hora said:

Its hideous. Truly hideous from the land of Hideiouso off the coast of Hideoramus.

I see the art of unreasonable replies hasn't been lost

He's right.
Repeat after me: red and green must never be seen (unless it's Christmas).
Not a bad drive though, and in the power to weight divided by insurance game, the 200vi did well.

[300bhp/ton]

hora said:

I fking hate Rovers. Don't mind admitting it. I am not misty-eyed over that companies automotive offerings (sorry).

Can I offer some advice? Remove this thread from your My Stuff and don't bother replying. It's not as if you are contributing positively or even constructively. If you have such childish irrational hate over an object and an intangible object then it's probably far better for your sanity to stay away.

[Smike]

300bhp/ton said:

jake15919 said:

So you don't know then. 50% survival in 12 years for an enthusiast type car seems poor. I'm not looking for a row over the merits of the car, what's the point, just asking a question.

But it's not just 50% it's only 350-400 cars.

Eg if the limited run was 4000 cars and only 3500 remained, would it really have done any better? The mortality rate is probably pretty consistent on this type and class of car.

More like 75% survival according to the DVLA stats posted on page 3? Or did I read them wrong?

[Goodfella 555]

Bigel said:

hmm, interesting concept, personally I'd like to try some sort of hungarian goulash pie with plenty of paprika in, reckon that could work quite well!

Thanks for the idea, not sure if it would be too runny for the pastry to maintain its integrity but i'll try anything once.

Except buying a Rover

[LeighW]

anything fast said:

i had a one of these rovers in 1.6 16v guise as a company car back in 1998.. it was total bag of st. !

My wife had one as a company car too, it was an absolute POS from day one. Had many niggling faults, back ache inducing seats, evil lift off oversteer in the wet (not at silly speeds either), and a great party trick where it would suddenly rev to 5000rpm all by itself (dealer never did sort this).

[300bhp/ton]

Smike said:

300bhp/ton said:

jake15919 said:

So you don't know then. 50% survival in 12 years for an enthusiast type car seems poor. I'm not looking for a row over the merits of the car, what's the point, just asking a question.

But it's not just 50% it's only 350-400 cars.

Eg if the limited run was 4000 cars and only 3500 remained, would it really have done any better? The mortality rate is probably pretty consistent on this type and class of car.

More like 75% survival according to the DVLA stats posted on page 3? Or did I read them wrong?

The it's done even better

[300bhp/ton]

hora said:

In life there will always be three trains of thought. Like, dislike, no opinion. On threads about cars there will be three trains of thought; I really dislike the ones that have no opinion but post for the sake of it.

I'll always post on SOTW that illicit a reaction, its not always going to be the one you like

Then why brake your own rules?

Like
Dislike
No opinion
And you - hate

Disliking is a million miles away from actively hating.

[Chrisw666]

300bhp/ton said:

Then why brake your own rules?

Like
Dislike
No opinion
And you - hate

Disliking is a million miles away from actively hating.

Have you ever stopped to think that maybe these threads get dragged into the gutter because you bite everytime someone posts something you don't like the sound of?

If someone posts 'Rover 200s are ste because I had one and it broke' it is almost certain that you will follow it by posting examples of ones that didn't break. Why not just understand that people have different opinions on things and you don't need to defend your position so forcibly in every other thread.

[pSyCoSiS]

I do see the appeal of these.

Different, and probably a fun car to drive.

Rare as well, so it's something unusual.

I actually like that orange nose!

[Papa Hotel]

hora said:

Anyway. Its Friday. Lets head over to the lounge for jokes, laughter and fun

• Places a fatherly arm around hora*

C'mon son, there's nothing more to see here.

[cathalm]

To set the record straight:

Number of BRM’s produced:

UK - 797 cars
Belgium - 50 cars
Holland - 77 cars
Portugal - 30 cars
Spain - 125 cars
Switzerland - 30 cars

[300bhp/ton]

Chrisw666 said:

Have you ever stopped to think that maybe these threads get dragged into the gutter because you bite everytime someone posts something you don't like the sound of?

If someone posts 'Rover 200s are ste because I had one and it broke' it is almost certain that you will follow it by posting examples of ones that didn't break. Why not just understand that people have different opinions on things and you don't need to defend your position so forcibly in every other thread.

Hi

If you care to note. Hora did no such thing, not even close.

I also only asked Papa, what out of curiosity did they have issues with? I didn't argue that they didn't and I didn't pursue it either. Nor did I reply to others who said they'd owned one.

It's again a bit like the difference between hating and no liking. As a rule I only replied to those stating subjective opinion as objective fact. And in most cases where it appears said people haven't been in or driven the vehicle in question.

[pSyCoSiS]

Chrisw666 said:

Have you ever stopped to think that maybe these threads get dragged into the gutter because you bite everytime someone posts something you don't like the sound of?

If someone posts 'Rover 200s are ste because I had one and it broke' it is almost certain that you will follow it by posting examples of ones that didn't break. Why not just understand that people have different opinions on things and you don't need to defend your position so forcibly in every other thread.

Exactly - that is the whole point of these threads.

Not everyone is a Rover enthusiast, in the same way some people hate BMWs and other German cars.

Also - agreed - Rovers have not got the best reputation for build quality, but, people should talk from experience rather than the general stereotyping. My Dad had a Rover 600 for a couple of years - 1999 'V Reg, Champagne metallic, fully loaded ex demo and one of the last ones to roll of the production line, and only 49k genuine miles. It never caused him a single issue and was 100% reliable. As with any model of car, you always get lemons. A mate of mine at work has just had his 370z back from Nissan,
after needing a new engine from the bottom end going - covered only 20k miles! That doesn't render the Z cars as being bad now, does it? It was purely bad luck and a bad batch of engines - it happens!

But, everyone is entitled to post their own opinion, and it should not be taken offensively, unless it is directly aimed at an individual.

Edited by pSyCoSiS on Friday 8th April 11:31

[Chrisw666]

The worst thing about the BRM is that this



could have been more like this



if Rover had a bigger development budget at the time, and if the MGs had followed suit rather than being a bit Halfords special to look at the cars may have been even more popular.

[AdeV]

I had a Rover 820 turbo (mk1, not a Vitesse). Fast as fk, but fragile. It finally died (after a very expensive turbo replacement) when it lunched its head. Not the headgasket, the head itself.

They were a bit easy to break into as well... just grab the top of the door & pull hard.

[Oddball RS]

AdeV said:

I had a Rover 820 turbo (mk1, not a Vitesse). Fast as fk, but fragile. It finally died (after a very expensive turbo replacement) when it lunched its head. Not the headgasket, the head itself.

They were a bit easy to break into as well... just grab the top of the door & pull hard.

Well i din't see that coming from left field......

[adambrm]

Hello Pistonheaders (is that your collective name?),

I run the Rover BRM owners forum and thought this is a topic I just have to post on, myself owning 2 Rover BRM's, one for the road and one for the track.

They're great little cars and a hell of a lot of car for the money nowadays, 'dogs' do tend to go for as low as £300 as rust is a big problem with the cars now, but good examples go for anything up to £2.5k. I do know of one 5k mile example that's kept garaged almost permanently.

We're actually trying to gather the most BRM's since launch together at this years Pride of Longbridge meet, so if anyone interested is around the Longbridge area on the 16th April, please head over to Crofton park to have a look at the cars.