The "Sh*t Driving Caught On Cam" Thread (Vol 4)

The "Sh*t Driving Caught On Cam" Thread (Vol 4)

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BigbadVXR

256 posts

173 months

Tuesday 29th May 2018
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There's no volume on this video because I'd hit the mute when formatting the card biggrin
https://youtu.be/ISDzQEn-eZw
I didn't expect this manoeuver tho!

Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah

13,161 posts

102 months

Tuesday 29th May 2018
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BigbadVXR said:
There's no volume on this video because I'd hit the mute when formatting the card biggrin
https://youtu.be/ISDzQEn-eZw
I didn't expect this manoeuver tho!
Reasonable that it was unexpected, but I'm not sure it's sh*t driving? I don't envy his driveway placement, but he approached slowly and indicated. Maybe he could have gone around the roundabout rather than across it, but a small criticism.

poing

8,743 posts

202 months

Tuesday 29th May 2018
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mattyn1 said:
Out of interest why do you doubt the registration?

And I maintain the good public would not have been so aggressive if the rider was not such an easy target.

Have you seen the earlier video? I hope there is more to what he has supposedly done but reports are he had already been assaulted..... I think most of us here would try and get away if that were us, regardless of fault.
I'd like to think none of us would have been assaulted because we wouldn't try to leave the scene of an accident without leaving details.

4x4Tyke

6,506 posts

134 months

Tuesday 29th May 2018
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InitialDave

12,005 posts

121 months

Tuesday 29th May 2018
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4x4Tyke said:
That's... impressive.

Saleen836

11,177 posts

211 months

Tuesday 29th May 2018
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4x4Tyke said:
Early reports are brake failure so hardly st driving

Alucidnation

16,810 posts

172 months

Tuesday 29th May 2018
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Brake failure would lock the brakes on.

4x4Tyke

6,506 posts

134 months

Tuesday 29th May 2018
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Saleen836 said:
4x4Tyke said:
Early reports are brake failure so hardly st driving
I call BS, buses have air brakes, they fail safe/on.


Saleen836

11,177 posts

211 months

Tuesday 29th May 2018
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Alucidnation said:
Brake failure would lock the brakes on.
News has been updated that a driver has been arrested on suspicion of careless driving and remains in custody

So yes, sh** driving

Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah

13,161 posts

102 months

Tuesday 29th May 2018
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dibbers006 said:
'Careless' driving.

Makes it sound so casual.
Indeed. Careless is shutting the front door, then realising your keys are inside.

NickGRhodes

1,291 posts

74 months

Tuesday 29th May 2018
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mattyn1 said:
Have you seen the earlier video? I hope there is more to what he has supposedly done but reports are he had already been assaulted..... I think most of us here would try and get away if that were us, regardless of fault.
And this is what it came down to when I did jury service. Defendant claimed self defence, getting away from a threatening situation, motorbike unable to reverse, motorbike was being held, so unable to safely dismount and continue on foot.

I still don't know what a citizens arrest could be made for, we don't have any footage prior of his riding, so we can't assess if there was any further risk of the rider hitting others.
I don't know if a bystander is considered someone that the rider has to give details to (I thought only owners or insurance or authorities) and the vehicle owners/drivers don't appear to be about, he does have 24 hours to report, so what would the citizens arrest be for ?


Edited by NickGRhodes on Tuesday 29th May 23:34

budgie smuggler

5,428 posts

161 months

Wednesday 30th May 2018
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Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah said:
BigbadVXR said:
There's no volume on this video because I'd hit the mute when formatting the card biggrin
https://youtu.be/ISDzQEn-eZw
I didn't expect this manoeuver tho!
Reasonable that it was unexpected, but I'm not sure it's sh*t driving? I don't envy his driveway placement, but he approached slowly and indicated. Maybe he could have gone around the roundabout rather than across it, but a small criticism.
He approached slowly and indicated, then pulled across in front of the camera car forcing them to brake. That's ignoring the fact he effectively drives the wrong way round the roundabout. st lazy driving in my personal view.

Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah

13,161 posts

102 months

Wednesday 30th May 2018
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budgie smuggler said:
Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah said:
BigbadVXR said:
There's no volume on this video because I'd hit the mute when formatting the card biggrin
https://youtu.be/ISDzQEn-eZw
I didn't expect this manoeuver tho!
Reasonable that it was unexpected, but I'm not sure it's sh*t driving? I don't envy his driveway placement, but he approached slowly and indicated. Maybe he could have gone around the roundabout rather than across it, but a small criticism.
He approached slowly and indicated, then pulled across in front of the camera car forcing them to brake. That's ignoring the fact he effectively drives the wrong way round the roundabout. st lazy driving in my personal view.
Should the camera car not have clocked the indication of the mini, to the the right, the one he should give way to on a roundabout?

I'm not being arsey, but I'm not convinced he did much wrong.

ashleyman

7,003 posts

101 months

Wednesday 30th May 2018
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Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah said:
budgie smuggler said:
Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah said:
BigbadVXR said:
There's no volume on this video because I'd hit the mute when formatting the card biggrin
https://youtu.be/ISDzQEn-eZw
I didn't expect this manoeuver tho!
Reasonable that it was unexpected, but I'm not sure it's sh*t driving? I don't envy his driveway placement, but he approached slowly and indicated. Maybe he could have gone around the roundabout rather than across it, but a small criticism.
He approached slowly and indicated, then pulled across in front of the camera car forcing them to brake. That's ignoring the fact he effectively drives the wrong way round the roundabout. st lazy driving in my personal view.
Should the camera car not have clocked the indication of the mini, to the the right, the one he should give way to on a roundabout?

I'm not being arsey, but I'm not convinced he did much wrong.
If you ignore the roundabout, the mini still crossed the paths of the camera car. It's the typical attitude of I'm indicating and I'm going and you can't stop me.

Add in the roundabout and I can't be sure I'd have expected him to go where he did considering there's no exit there. I'd have probably assumed he left his indicator on by mistake.

I'd be fine with his manoeuvre if the road was clear, but it wasn't so the mini should have gone round the roundabout and then on the drive or at least waited until he could turn over without impeding anyone else.

rampageturke

2,622 posts

164 months

Wednesday 30th May 2018
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blame isn't black and white

budgie smuggler

5,428 posts

161 months

Wednesday 30th May 2018
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Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah said:
Should the camera car not have clocked the indication of the mini, to the the right, the one he should give way to on a roundabout?

I'm not being arsey, but I'm not convinced he did much wrong.
No problem Fermit, hope you don't think I am either, just discussing it. I'm open to other views, that's one of the things I like about this thread.

My point is that regardless of indication, he's still pulled into the path of the camcar which as I see it was using the road (more) correctly.

I can see why Mini has done that move, it's a tight turn to get into his drive if he takes correct route around the roundabout, however if it were me in the Mini, I'd be very cautious and give way to anything oncoming because nobody is going to be expecting somebody to turn against the flow of the roundabout. A very tight u-turn maybe, but not against the arrows.

Also if the roundabout wasn't there, he still shouldn't have turned across the path of the cam car.

mattyn1

5,838 posts

157 months

Wednesday 30th May 2018
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rampageturke said:
blame isn't always black and white
I have added a bit as it is quite relevant. Perception can be a funny thing too.

At least this thread stays reasonably civilised! smile

NickGRhodes

1,291 posts

74 months

Wednesday 30th May 2018
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If the Mini was incapable of entering the driveway without going over the central markings, should it have taken a different route ?

blueg33

36,524 posts

226 months

Wednesday 30th May 2018
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Surely the mini was taking what was effectively the 3rd exit from the mini roundabout 270 degree round and should therefore have treated it the way you should treat that exit on any mini roundabout, by going round?

Limpet

6,368 posts

163 months

Wednesday 30th May 2018
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blueg33 said:
Surely the mini was taking what was effectively the 3rd exit from the mini roundabout 270 degree round and should therefore have treated it the way you should treat that exit on any mini roundabout, by going round?
My take on it also.


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