Winter tyres vol 2
Discussion
Davie said:
Dan Friel said:
But the original poster never said that the Nankangs would be worse than summer tyres in winter conditions, he merely commented that there are much better and more suitable winter tyres for UK conditions. I don't think that's up for debate..
If you really can't get the ABS to kick in by standing on the brakes, I suggest that the braking system might need a quick look at..
The original poster has a BMW 5 series diesel... I'm not saying it would than an RS4 cabriolet for taking the kids to school, I'm merely commenting that there are better and more suitable cars for UK family needs. If you really can't get the ABS to kick in by standing on the brakes, I suggest that the braking system might need a quick look at..
My point, you buy the thing that satisfies your needs and at the budget you can afford, based upon you own personal situation and preferences. Ultimately, there's always something better.
"Auto Bild will be taking the top 15 tyres through to the shoot out due next month, conditionally recommend places 16 to 26, and do not recommend places 27 to 42, something we completely agree with.
The average budget winter tyres sacrifices too much wet performance to be considered a sensible option for the UK climate. Please note: Auto Bild considered places 27-42 so dangerous they did not test them in the snow."
Another pair of Pirelli Sottozero 3 ordered for this winter from Pneus Online.
I've been very impressed with the tyres after using them last winter, especially in the wet. Despite a 3k mile trip to Slovakia and back in January I never did find any snow to test them in, but in all other conditions they've been outstanding.
The front pair have lasted 9k miles on the Saab 9-5 Aero, which I consider to be pretty good given that they tend to score less well in tests for wear, and it's a big heavy FWD estate which is often heavily loaded in the rear.
In a 225/45/17 94V they're not the cheapest winter tyre by any means, but it's a minimal price difference between them and the likes of Nokian / Fulda / Vredestein etc so I've no hesitation in buying them again.
I'm just hoping that I get to find some snow this year to try them out in.
I've been very impressed with the tyres after using them last winter, especially in the wet. Despite a 3k mile trip to Slovakia and back in January I never did find any snow to test them in, but in all other conditions they've been outstanding.
The front pair have lasted 9k miles on the Saab 9-5 Aero, which I consider to be pretty good given that they tend to score less well in tests for wear, and it's a big heavy FWD estate which is often heavily loaded in the rear.
In a 225/45/17 94V they're not the cheapest winter tyre by any means, but it's a minimal price difference between them and the likes of Nokian / Fulda / Vredestein etc so I've no hesitation in buying them again.
I'm just hoping that I get to find some snow this year to try them out in.
sjj84 said:
Anybody know of any all season or winter tyres in a 205/40r17 figment? Struggling to find anything made by a company I've even heard of.
I've gone with a set of Nexen Wingaurd Sports in that size this year, I used to go down to 15s on steels but have a second set of 17" alloys now, cost £42 each from tyreleader. defblade said:
Any recommendations for winters for my latest steed, a Grand Vitara?
I commute by motorbike in all weather except snow and ice, so with my last car (BMW 318 touring, Uniroyal M+S) I was happy to fit winters and use them all year, they don't see the road much in summer anyway. A bit of very mild off-roading may be in the future, but keeping mobile in winter, come what may, is my main priority.
OE size is 235/60/16 100H; I was also wondering about the pros and cons of maybe going a little narrower, say 215/65.
Thanks in advance, gurus
I run Bridgestone Blizzak LM-80 winters on a Subaru Forester in 215/65/16. They are also available in 235/60/16 if you prefer to stick to OE size.I commute by motorbike in all weather except snow and ice, so with my last car (BMW 318 touring, Uniroyal M+S) I was happy to fit winters and use them all year, they don't see the road much in summer anyway. A bit of very mild off-roading may be in the future, but keeping mobile in winter, come what may, is my main priority.
OE size is 235/60/16 100H; I was also wondering about the pros and cons of maybe going a little narrower, say 215/65.
Thanks in advance, gurus
This thread had reminded me I really need to get them swapped over in the next week or 2.
Swapped the tyres on my SLK over to the Conti TS830P winters this morning. Still too warm but the ride is so nice and comfy
I also need to maximise the use of the car on the winters, as I get the cars and change them every 2 years/30K. By using the winters (these are the same tyres I used on my identical SLK that went back to MB in May) in a timely manner I get away with not needing to replace the tyres on the car (ie. it goes back to MB on the original tyres). Very cost effective.
I also need to maximise the use of the car on the winters, as I get the cars and change them every 2 years/30K. By using the winters (these are the same tyres I used on my identical SLK that went back to MB in May) in a timely manner I get away with not needing to replace the tyres on the car (ie. it goes back to MB on the original tyres). Very cost effective.
Sonic said:
I was just coming to post about this as i've been caught with a 2014 Ford Fiesta Zetec.
I knew it had TPMS but assumed it was much like my BMW, where it uses the ABS sensor to work it out, so you just need to re-calibrate the system when you change tyre pressures or indeed wheels.
But unbeknown to me the Ford has embedded sensors in the tyre valves, which means now i've changed to a winter set of wheels without sensors the bloody computer alert goes off with a TPMS malfunction every time you drive it which is very annoying.
To the best of my knowledge there is no way to turn this off, so it's a simple case of put up with the annoyance, put the sensors from the OEM wheels into the winters which kind of defies the point of having 2 easy-to-change sets of wheels, or get a new set of sensors (£250) put into winters (£40) plus re-calibration tool (£50) to be able to update the computer whenever you change the wheels back.
What a complete fking ballache!
I am in the same situation. I had a look on national tyres for new sensors and they're nearly £400 which I disagree with paying for something that a bit of common sense can keep on top of. Think I'll just put some black tape over the light. My MOT was done in sept so the summers will be back on by then.I knew it had TPMS but assumed it was much like my BMW, where it uses the ABS sensor to work it out, so you just need to re-calibrate the system when you change tyre pressures or indeed wheels.
But unbeknown to me the Ford has embedded sensors in the tyre valves, which means now i've changed to a winter set of wheels without sensors the bloody computer alert goes off with a TPMS malfunction every time you drive it which is very annoying.
To the best of my knowledge there is no way to turn this off, so it's a simple case of put up with the annoyance, put the sensors from the OEM wheels into the winters which kind of defies the point of having 2 easy-to-change sets of wheels, or get a new set of sensors (£250) put into winters (£40) plus re-calibration tool (£50) to be able to update the computer whenever you change the wheels back.
What a complete fking ballache!
Edited by Sonic on Monday 17th November 13:37
TheArchitect said:
Sonic said:
I was just coming to post about this as i've been caught with a 2014 Ford Fiesta Zetec.
I knew it had TPMS but assumed it was much like my BMW, where it uses the ABS sensor to work it out, so you just need to re-calibrate the system when you change tyre pressures or indeed wheels.
But unbeknown to me the Ford has embedded sensors in the tyre valves, which means now i've changed to a winter set of wheels without sensors the bloody computer alert goes off with a TPMS malfunction every time you drive it which is very annoying.
To the best of my knowledge there is no way to turn this off, so it's a simple case of put up with the annoyance, put the sensors from the OEM wheels into the winters which kind of defies the point of having 2 easy-to-change sets of wheels, or get a new set of sensors (£250) put into winters (£40) plus re-calibration tool (£50) to be able to update the computer whenever you change the wheels back.
What a complete fking ballache!
I am in the same situation. I had a look on national tyres for new sensors and they're nearly £400 which I disagree with paying for something that a bit of common sense can keep on top of. Think I'll just put some black tape over the light. My MOT was done in sept so the summers will be back on by then.I knew it had TPMS but assumed it was much like my BMW, where it uses the ABS sensor to work it out, so you just need to re-calibrate the system when you change tyre pressures or indeed wheels.
But unbeknown to me the Ford has embedded sensors in the tyre valves, which means now i've changed to a winter set of wheels without sensors the bloody computer alert goes off with a TPMS malfunction every time you drive it which is very annoying.
To the best of my knowledge there is no way to turn this off, so it's a simple case of put up with the annoyance, put the sensors from the OEM wheels into the winters which kind of defies the point of having 2 easy-to-change sets of wheels, or get a new set of sensors (£250) put into winters (£40) plus re-calibration tool (£50) to be able to update the computer whenever you change the wheels back.
What a complete fking ballache!
Edited by Sonic on Monday 17th November 13:37
S1600 said:
I've gone with a set of Nexen Wingaurd Sports in that size this year, I used to go down to 15s on steels but have a second set of 17" alloys now, cost £42 each from tyreleader.
Any good? That's a bargain if they are, reviews if nexen don't seem to be very favourable though.sjj84 said:
S1600 said:
I've gone with a set of Nexen Wingaurd Sports in that size this year, I used to go down to 15s on steels but have a second set of 17" alloys now, cost £42 each from tyreleader.
Any good? That's a bargain if they are, reviews if nexen don't seem to be very favourable though.If they are as good as, or better than the Dunlop Winter Sport m3s that they are replacing I'll be happy, also I couldn't live with the steels for another winter.
Quick note, it's never a good idea to Base tyre choice of us reviews. It's a very different market from the UK, and tyre companies can actually take totally different tyres out there, even if they use the same name.
A uhp summer tyre with good reviews out there would likely be awful compared to our summer tyres, as they expect tyres to last 50k+ miles
A uhp summer tyre with good reviews out there would likely be awful compared to our summer tyres, as they expect tyres to last 50k+ miles
0 - 1 on the temp gauge coming into work this morning. Also very wet and muddy roads. Winter boots have been gripping really, really well.
Did about 80 miles yesterday in the rain and cold. Again, the tyres inspired lots of confidence.
I've also noticed a difference at a junction I use that takes me onto an A road. For some reason, the surface is quite slippery and I would always have a little bit of wheel spin when moving off in the wet. Since I've had the winters fitted, I don't seem to suffer much wheelspin.
Did about 80 miles yesterday in the rain and cold. Again, the tyres inspired lots of confidence.
I've also noticed a difference at a junction I use that takes me onto an A road. For some reason, the surface is quite slippery and I would always have a little bit of wheel spin when moving off in the wet. Since I've had the winters fitted, I don't seem to suffer much wheelspin.
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