Flemke - Is this your McLaren? (Vol 5)
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flemke said:
cc8s said:
I think there were 10 there, in all.
Mostly (or all) GTRs, or road cars also?https://www.goodwood.com/grr/event-coverage/festiv...
https://www.goodwood.com/grr/event-coverage/festiv...
thegreenhell said:
flemke said:
cc8s said:
I think there were 10 there, in all.
Mostly (or all) GTRs, or road cars also?https://www.goodwood.com/grr/event-coverage/festiv...
https://www.goodwood.com/grr/event-coverage/festiv...
Love the idea of putting a GTR up on its air-jacks!
More F1s on display here - https://www.classicdriver.com/en/article/cars/our-...
And a video tour around the display
And a video tour around the display
It was a good event, I went to the morning get together and saw STG doing his 'influencer' stuff; there were only a few people there compared to the busyness of the night before
The cars looked awesome, the setting is spot on and the knowledge of both Chris and Luke made the audience feel comfortable in the space.
The cars looked awesome, the setting is spot on and the knowledge of both Chris and Luke made the audience feel comfortable in the space.
Edited by hurstg01 on Wednesday 28th September 09:37
thegreenhell said:
AllyBee said:
Also there must come a point where you see ££ or even ($$) in front of your eyes, I spoke to a chap who owned a 356 Carrera at the Silverstone classic, he'd owned his car for over 20 years and said he got telephone calls from people offering to buy his car on a monthly basis, and even though to hear him speak he dearly loved the car he admitted he was tempted by the figures offered these days...
Sell it now for $$$$, wait a year or two for the price bubble to burst, then buy it back, or a similar one, for just $$.
As Mr Hurst says, my car (and many other cars) were arrayed in a static display on the runway. The presenters were not static, however. In the horrible weather they walked around (and sometimes were being blown around) the cars as they commented on them. Top Gear folks were very friendly and professional, as one would expect.
The program will be broadcast this season but not, AIUI, within the next few weeks.
The program will be broadcast this season but not, AIUI, within the next few weeks.
F1natic said:
The visor strip appears very dark in this shot, is it a heavy tint or actually opaque? Looks great either way.
It's a removable vinyl strip, which is the norm on pretty much all cars, F1s and others. Some F1s have had the old (1990s) 'McLaren' logo on that strip. I have it there simply because it does a good job of keeping unwanted sunlight out of my eyes. Edited by flemke on Tuesday 8th November 18:06
cc8s said:
Nice to see it out - love the spec.
Did you get a complimentary loop of the circuit?
The fellow who transported the car for me actually did the driving. Did you get a complimentary loop of the circuit?
I have driven the circuit before - pretty awful. It is so flat that it is almost impossible at speed to see the braking and turn-in points.
Flemke,Did I read on here that you are less interested in the Gordon Murray T.50, but were for the Mercedes Benz ONE ?
Obviously most of us mere mortals have not had the access you likely have had - but Chris Harris. / Top Gear was not so blown away by the car last night.
How does their assessment sit with you and your views on the car (and order?)
PushedDover said:
Flemke,Did I read on here that you are less interested in the Gordon Murray T.50, but were for the Mercedes Benz ONE ?
Obviously most of us mere mortals have not had the access you likely have had - but Chris Harris. / Top Gear was not so blown away by the car last night.
How does their assessment sit with you and your views on the car (and order?)
I was interested in the T.50, mostly out of loyalty to Gordon. Then there was an honest misunderstanding between his finance people and his head of sales, with the result that, although I had been one of the first people to receive the marketing package a year previously and had had a couple meetings with Gordon about it, I did not get an allocation. I could live with that, no problem.
Re the One, I was never interested in a car with a 1.6 litre turbo engine and electric motors generating as much BHP as the engine does. I did not however dislike the idea of the One as much as I disliked the idea of the Valyrie, of which I was always sceptical and, if I may say so, that scepticism appears to have been justified.
The problem with all this stuff is: what do you do with it? They are all wide or very wide, and are super capable although we exist in a driving environment in which there are less space, lower speed limits, more roadworks, worse road surfaces, few places to park, and a broad antipathy to using a car for anything other than the most mundane, tedious forms of pragmatic transportation when there is no alternative. Not an environment that rewards an extremely fast modern car!
flemke said:
I don't think so, more like the opposite.
I was interested in the T.50, mostly out of loyalty to Gordon. Then there was an honest misunderstanding between his finance people and his head of sales, with the result that, although I had been one of the first people to receive the marketing package a year previously and had had a couple meetings with Gordon about it, I did not get an allocation. I could live with that, no problem.
Re the One, I was never interested in a car with a 1.6 litre turbo engine and electric motors generating as much BHP as the engine does. I did not however dislike the idea of the One as much as I disliked the idea of the Valyrie, of which I was always sceptical and, if I may say so, that scepticism appears to have been justified.
The problem with all this stuff is: what do you do with it? They are all wide or very wide, and are super capable although we exist in a driving environment in which there are less space, lower speed limits, more roadworks, worse road surfaces, few places to park, and a broad antipathy to using a car for anything other than the most mundane, tedious forms of pragmatic transportation when there is no alternative. Not an environment that rewards an extremely fast modern car!
Did you consider the track version? I’m of the opinion that on track is really the best place to experience cars at the limit these days.I was interested in the T.50, mostly out of loyalty to Gordon. Then there was an honest misunderstanding between his finance people and his head of sales, with the result that, although I had been one of the first people to receive the marketing package a year previously and had had a couple meetings with Gordon about it, I did not get an allocation. I could live with that, no problem.
Re the One, I was never interested in a car with a 1.6 litre turbo engine and electric motors generating as much BHP as the engine does. I did not however dislike the idea of the One as much as I disliked the idea of the Valyrie, of which I was always sceptical and, if I may say so, that scepticism appears to have been justified.
The problem with all this stuff is: what do you do with it? They are all wide or very wide, and are super capable although we exist in a driving environment in which there are less space, lower speed limits, more roadworks, worse road surfaces, few places to park, and a broad antipathy to using a car for anything other than the most mundane, tedious forms of pragmatic transportation when there is no alternative. Not an environment that rewards an extremely fast modern car!
flemke said:
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The problem with all this stuff is: what do you do with it? They are all wide or very wide, and are super capable although we exist in a driving environment in which there are less space, lower speed limits, more roadworks, worse road surfaces, few places to park, and a broad antipathy to using a car for anything other than the most mundane, tedious forms of pragmatic transportation when there is no alternative. Not an environment that rewards an extremely fast modern car!
Quite. For road driving in the UK, personally I consider that anything more than 250 bhp per ton is more likely to reduce enjoyment than to increase it. The fastest car I have driven is a Senna - and I joke that there are few cars slower on the roads round where I live. I drove it slowly because of the width, the hard ride and the cost of repairing it if anything were to go wrong. People choosing more powerful cars probably have different motivations - the owner of that car has driven it very fast on track and he enjoys the experience of owning something special. I have a car with more power than 250 bhp per ton which I enjoy for its looks, sound, finishes and image as well as enjoying driving it. I know you have said that one of the pleasures of having the F1 is the challenge of driving a difficult car well. What other motivations have you had for owning very fast cars?The problem with all this stuff is: what do you do with it? They are all wide or very wide, and are super capable although we exist in a driving environment in which there are less space, lower speed limits, more roadworks, worse road surfaces, few places to park, and a broad antipathy to using a car for anything other than the most mundane, tedious forms of pragmatic transportation when there is no alternative. Not an environment that rewards an extremely fast modern car!
Do you think a high proportion of the buyers of ultra expensive and fast cars see them primarily as investments, works of art, driving machines or something other?
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